I'm interested and I'd prefer the West Coast. I'd also be down to play Caesar's Legion.

This looks fascinating. I'd like to join in.

Yeah for the game endings, I think some modified versions of the endings need to be decided upon. For instance, Fallout 4, if the Minutemen destroy both The Institute and Brotherhood, that knocks out a couple factions for people to potentially RP as.

That's not to say The Minutemen can't win out, but instead of wiping them out. Perhaps The Institute is evacuated successfully and The Brotherhood retreats after Liberty Prime is destroyed (just an example).

Edit: I'll just say too that if the ending can be modified a bit. I'd like to claim those Institute remnants as a potential faction.

This looks fascinating. I'd like to join in.

Do you vote for East Coast or West Coast?

Yeah for the game endings, I think some modified versions of the endings need to be decided upon. For instance, Fallout 4, if the Minutemen destroy both The Institute and Brotherhood, that knocks out a couple factions for people to potentially RP as.

That's not to say The Minutemen can't win out, but instead of wiping them out. Perhaps The Institute is evacuated successfully and The Brotherhood retreats after Liberty Prime is destroyed (just an example).

Edit: I'll just say too that if the ending can be modified a bit. I'd like to claim those Institute remnants as a potential faction.

Given how some of the endings can loop back into one another, the East Coast proves to be the more versatile setting for this as well: Even if you knock out the Brotherhood in the Commonwealth, it's also established in FO3's Good Ending (As to why we'd pick the Enclave/FEV Ending for FO3 is a galaxy-brain move that is far beyond me) that the BoS has a fairly solid hold on the Capital Wasteland, so that sets up a potential conflict for the region, as the BoS would clearly want some well-warranted revenge against some wastelanders with lightbulb lasers.

Also, given how the choice of setting seems to be really coming down to the line, I think I have what may end up being a better alternative to help a flat-out vote.

I'm gonna ask everyone to post their ideas for what they would want to play as on the East Coast and the West Coast, respectively. That way, we can see who might have the better interactions, which in turn would help us all reach a decision sooner.

I know so far we have:
- Institute Remnants
- New Yorkers
- Caesar's Legion
- The Minutemen
- Nomad Super Mutants
- Chinese AI Base

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New York:

By 2290, the chaos of the wasteland had been quelled by a unifying force in the dense urban landscape. A charismatic leader has assembled a faction of disparate wastelanders and executed a plan with the help of The Economist: an incredibly powerful artificial intelligence beneath Wall Street. Initially designed to predict market conditions and economic futures, The Economist warned of a massive nuclear conflict when it became aware of a sudden uptick in defense contractors' stocks. Now, centuries after the great war, its collated data has generated wisdom far beyond its initial purpose.

The Economist serves as an oracle to the government of New York City, a machine that has fused its knowledge of the old world with the new. New York heals, organizing its defenses and bringing its residents under a shield of civilization and protection. Beyond the outskirts of New York's territories, a rugged wasteland awaits. Threats encroach upon the city on all sides: untamed radiation storms engulf Connecticut and the territories west of New Jersey, and exotic threats manifest south of New York's suburbs in New Jersey. The former upstate regions of New York are occupied by raiders, bandits, and mutants: a land ripe for exploration and plundering.

New York operates as a city state surrounded by dangerous threats. The city's high rises betray its pivotal role in the old world and display its potential in the new wasteland. Where New York has risen to the occasion before, it shall manifest again.

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Do you vote for East Coast or West Coast?

Personally, I'd prefer West Coast, just because I think the lore makes more sense there, but I can play East Coast if that's what everyone else wants.

Also, given how the choice of setting seems to be really coming down to the line, I think I have what may end up being a better alternative to help a flat-out vote.

I'm gonna ask everyone to post their ideas for what they would want to play as on the East Coast and the West Coast, respectively. That way, we can see who might have the better interactions, which in turn would help us all reach a decision sooner

I was planning on playing a Mr House-esque faction, so a small but wealthy and relatively advanced nation ruled by a plutocrat.

I was planning on playing a Mr House-esque faction, so a small but wealthy and relatively advanced nation ruled by a plutocrat.

Feel free to come up with your own idea, but Vault City is another New Vegas like faction in the West that could fit that sort of!

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Feel free to come up with your own idea, but Vault City is another New Vegas like faction in the West that could fit that sort of!

Vault City is annexed into the NCR by now

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Feel free to come up with your own idea, but Vault City is another New Vegas like faction in the West that could fit that sort of!

I was thinking of a Vault nation, but I was planning to be more business-like than scientific. They could have home based out of a Vault, though

I'm interested and I'd prefer the West Coast. I'd also be down to play Caesar's Legion.

Keep in mind, the Legion may be broken up into pieces by now, depending on what we do/how we decide New Vegas ended

As for my ideas, working on a writeup for both West and East rn.

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Keep in mind, the Legion may be broken up into pieces by now, depending on what we do/how we decide New Vegas ended

Well, we also have to decide on an actual timeframe. We haven't done anything of the sort as of yet, but from the gist of it, it seems like most people will want to do something set after every game thus far (2290+)

Even if the Legion lost at Hoover Dam, its entirely possible they still survived as a faction. A strong enough leader (aka whoever takes them over) could step into Sallow's shoes, claim descent from Mars as the next Caesar, and reorganize the Legion.

Even if the Legion lost at Hoover Dam, its entirely possible they still survived as a faction. A strong enough leader (aka whoever takes them over) could step into Sallow's shoes, claim descent from Mars as the next Caesar, and reorganize the Legion.

I have to disagree. it's repeatedly pointed out in New vegas that the Legion is likely bound to fail, and with Sallow bound to die eventually, I don't see it not imploding, whether violently due to his death or more slowly due to simply not being a very sustainable society

that is a big if knowing the legion depends on Ceasar being alive but its still possible Lanius keeps it alive for a while in the post credits

Even if the Legion lost at Hoover Dam, its entirely possible they still survived as a faction. A strong enough leader (aka whoever takes them over) could step into Sallow's shoes, claim descent from Mars as the next Caesar, and reorganize the Legion.

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I have to disagree. it's repeatedly pointed out in New vegas that the Legion is likely bound to fail, and with Sallow bound to die eventually, I don't see it not imploding, whether violently due to his death or more slowly due to simply not being a very sustainable society

Keep in mind that a lot of the speculation about the Legion's dissolution said that the Legion wouldn't fall apart all at once, and that it'd likely take a few years - if not decades. That being said, it could be reasonable to assume that there could be a few spans of competent leaders who would fill the shoes while the Empire crumbles apart.

Roleplaying a crumbling empire like a Post-Caesar Legion will also give tons of opportunities for roleplaying hooks, given the sheer geographical distance of the Legion.

That said, it would basically take a complete reorganization of the Legion to make it stand a test of time...which itself is enough of a roleplaying reason to be interested in it after the events of NV.

The fact that there is still debates if the legion would survive without caesar and the future of the Mojave is a testament to how new vegas is a masterpiece.

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Keep in mind that a lot of the speculation about the Legion's dissolution said that the Legion wouldn't fall apart all at once, and that it'd likely take a few years - if not decades. That being said, it could be reasonable to assume that there could be a few spans of competent leaders who would fill the shoes while the Empire crumbles apart.

Roleplaying a crumbling empire like a Post-Caesar Legion will also give tons of opportunities for roleplaying hooks, given the sheer geographical distance of the Legion.

That said, it would basically take a complete reorganization of the Legion to make it stand a test of time...which itself is enough of a roleplaying reason to be interested in it after the events of NV.

I think one of my big narrative issues with the legion being 'together' as a single enetity is that it severely limits the ability of people to mess around in Colorado; that'd mean most of Arizona, new Mexico, and large parts of colorado claimed by a single person.

I think one of my big narrative issues with the legion being 'together' as a single enetity is that it severely limits the ability of people to mess around in Colorado; that'd mean most of Arizona, new Mexico, and large parts of colorado claimed by a single person.

Well, there also gives a counterpoint to be had:

We could have the Legion be an NPC entity that anyone can "write for", and instead have the players themselves play factions within the Legion itself. Same goes for the NCR, since the NCR has tons of factions within it (Followers of the Apocalypse, Gun Runners, Crimson Caravans, OSI, etc.).

Keep in mind that this is more of a "West Coast" sort of issue, since the East Coast doesn't really have much in the way of super-established factions that would "map paint" most of a region.

As for my ideas:

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Well, there also gives a counterpoint to be had:

We could have the Legion be an NPC entity that anyone can "write for", and instead have the players themselves play factions within the Legion itself. Same goes for the NCR, since the NCR has tons of factions within it (Followers of the Apocalypse, Gun Runners, Crimson Caravans, OSI, etc.).

Keep in mind that this is more of a "West Coast" sort of issue, since the East Coast doesn't really have much in the way of super-established factions that would "map paint" most of a region.

I think that would be a much more interesting way to handle the huge factions like the NCR and Legion, yeah.