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Yeah of course, I more meant major event wise since the bombs dropped. Think it was just the writing of Fallout 3 that made it seem like there was just piles of rocks when the Brotherhood wandered out there.

That said, I'm cool with the East Coast and I'm sure everyone will come up with solid ideas.

I agree the bethesdism of having the world in fo3/4 be as if the bombs dropped only yesterday is stupid. However, a very large portion of the territory we will be playing in will not be covered by canon, and hence there is the freedom to create something that has actually done a lot of rebuilding like we see in the West Coast.

@Auz I have kind of a dumb question: Didn't the Legion originally come from the East? Maybe more Central, but wasn't the point of Ulysses and the Courier that they were mailmen from the West and East? You could have it that the Legion went back East to reconnct/regroup with territories it was more familiar with.

@Auz I have kind of a dumb question: Didn't the Legion originally come from the East? Maybe more Central, but wasn't the point of Ulysses and the Courier that they were mailmen from the West and East? You could have it that the Legion went back East to reconnct/regroup with territories it was more familiar with.

They were East comparative to California and the Mojave but they didnt come from the actual East of America

@Auz I have kind of a dumb question: Didn't the Legion originally come from the East? Maybe more Central, but wasn't the point of Ulysses and the Courier that they were mailmen from the West and East? You could have it that the Legion went back East to reconnct/regroup with territories it was more familiar with.

They came from Arizona I believe. They're just called the East in NV because they're to the East of Hoover Dam. Depending on where you stand lore wise, the Midwestern BOS was/is supposedly occupying most of the territory in the centre of America.

Would love to bring the Legion east, maybe remnants but I think it might be a bit of a stretch.

Since everyone else is doing it, I might as well as present my concept:

2290. The Commonwealth Minutemen emerged as victors of a bloody war that consumed all of Boston. First, the Prydwen was bought down by a hail of artillery fire, effectively ending the Brotherhood of Steel's presence in the region. Then, the underground headquarters of The Institute was destroyed along with the ruins of C.I.T. All while the Railroad was spared but ultimately bent the knee to the Minutemen. And it was all thanks to a pre-war relic: the Sole Survivor.

The Sole Survivor emerged from Vault 111 and found themselves in a whole different world. If it weren't for Preston Garvey and his charity, they would've not survived a day longer in the post-nuclear world. And after helping out a few settlements, Preston promoted them to the rank of general and became second in command. Eventually, with help from newly recruited minutemen, the Commonwealth Minutemen took back their former headquarters, the Castle, and began rebuilding.

But as tensions between the other factions heightened, rumors surfaced that relations between Preston and the Sole Survivor were declining after retaking the Castle. And things only got worst once the War of the Commonwealth began. After that, arguments between them became more common and known by other minutemen. Then, while fighting the Institute, the Sole Survivor didn't activate the emergency relay and knowingly pressed the detonator. Upon learning that the General essentially murdered the Institute, Preston cursed them for "leaving a black mark on the Minutemen."

Now, a few years since the destruction of the Institute, critical individuals throughout the region met and reestablished the Commonwealth Provisional Government.

@Auz I have kind of a dumb question: Didn't the Legion originally come from the East? Maybe more Central, but wasn't the point of Ulysses and the Courier that they were mailmen from the West and East? You could have it that the Legion went back East to reconnct/regroup with territories it was more familiar with.

Caesar himself came from California, but the first tribe he integrated into the Legion came from the Grand Canyon, and their territory goes from the East Bank of the Colorado up to, I think, Denver, with most of their power in Arizona.

Okay, so not THAT East. Gotcha.

I'll throw it out there as a rough concept for consideration:

Following a precautionary evacuation order by Father, a portion of The Institute's population was relocated to temporary quarters north of The Commonwealth in an abandoned Vault. They were provided with supplies, equipment, a contingent of Synths guards, and most critically, a backup of The Institute's archives for safekeeping.

In the wake of the destruction of The Institute by the Sole Survivor, and despairing at the loss of their home and many of their friends and families, these remnants made plans to seek safety far away from The Commonwealth. Somewhere along the line they became aware of the possible existence of Acadia, a Synth refugee that had managed to evade their gaze for quite some time. Seeing opportunity, and led by a new self-proclaimed Director, they traveled north to where it was believed to be located. Members of the former SRB and Robotics divisions soon made contact with DiMA under the pretense of being Synths which had managed to escape The Institute's destruction and were seeking a new home. DiMA quickly and gladly offered up Acadia's location to these supposed refugees.

Before arriving in force, the remnants sent ahead SRB agents and two Coursers. Upon their arrival, they mingled successfully with the populace of Far Harbor and soon came to the realization that Avery, the leader of the town, was in fact a Synth replacement: a replacement never authorized by the SRB.

Seeking to use this knowledge to their advantage, the new Director executed his plan. Utilizing what Synth troopers were still left, The Institute forces attacked Acadia and successfully overwhelmed it, capturing DiMA and subduing a substantial portion of the Acadian Gen-3's via their reset codes. With the former Synth sanctuary now under their control, they made overtures to the people of Far Harbor. While initially outraged by Acadia's destruction, Far Harbor came around quickly enough when The Institute offered its help not only against the Children of Atom, but to drive back the fog as well. Captain Avery also began to argue quite convincingly about how she'd never really trusted DiMA and how these 'new' neighbors were, at the very least, human. A suspicious change of heart to be sure.

In the few years that have passed, The Institute's remnants have managed to solidify their grip over Mount Desert Island and the town of Far Harbor. The Children of Atom have all but been driven out and the fog has been contained thanks to their reverse engineering and improvement upon DiMA's Fog Condensers. Slowly but surely, they are expanding their resources and founding a new life for themselves far away from The Commonwealth and the betrayal that brought them to the brink of destruction.

@Mao Mao Would the Sole Survivor have gone to Far Harbor? My idea for a faction is the Children of Atom under the leadership of Synth-Tektus.

Edit: And I somehow completely overlooked Andro's Far Harbor proposal. Guess I'll need to think it over some more.

@Andronicus23 Looks like the Sole Survivor and the gang are in need of a field trip...

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@Mao Mao Would the Sole Survivor have gone to Far Harbor? My idea for a faction is the Children of Atom under the leadership of Synth-Tektus.

I'd imagine the Sole Survivor visiting to find and bring Kasumi Nakano back home during the main story. But instead of the standard ending, they decided to blackmail DiMA into convincing Kasumi to leave with them. They could've installed Synth-Tektus as an additional favor for DiMA. So, DiMA's secret was safe while the Sole Survivor completed the objective.

If that's alright with @Andronicus23.

Also, my first arc will deal with Nuka-World.

@Andronicus23 Looks like the Sole Survivor and the gang are in need of a field trip...

Come ooooon. They just want to do science and eat some tasty lobster rolls.

You like lobster rolls yes? Trade?

@Mao Mao Would the Sole Survivor have gone to Far Harbor? My idea for a faction is the Children of Atom under the leadership of Synth-Tektus.

Edit: And I somehow completely overlooked Andro's Far Harbor proposal. Guess I'll need to think it over some more.

Technically you could still do Tektus. We can just say that they saw the writing on the wall and decided to leave Far Harbor once The Institute showed itself.

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Come ooooon. They just want to do science and eat some tasty lobster rolls.

You like lobster rolls yes? Trade?

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Technically you could still do Tektus. We can just say that they saw the writing on the wall and decided to leave Far Harbor once The Institute showed itself.

What are your thoughts on COMMUNISM?

I leave for a few hours and there is a lot of lore now dam...

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What are your thoughts on COMMUNISM?

COMMUNISM??? *CUE LIGHTING STRIKES*

To be honest I've never really thought the Institute overall cares much for political ideologies. They are (or at least were until the Sole Survivor came along) a post-scarcity meritocracy led by a *theoretically* benevolent dictator. They don't care at all for pre-war political concepts or parties.

If The Enclave came along and told them to help them for the good of America. They'd ask why they should care.
If the Chinese came along offering cooperation. They ask well what's in it for them.

I imagine it would be difficult to have the traditional Marxist ideology in a world like Fallout, although I also imagine it's perfectly possible that some factions are communist just by nature, or have their own ideas that are very similar to communism.

I mean it makes sense the old ways of ideologies, kind of collapsed into a blaze of fire, leaving only survival and rebuilding, overall there are some areas where "socialist" economics is used, planned economy and that others just the classic property owners.

Well, just going off of the results we've gotten so far, it seems like this is going to be an East Coast RP.

Since I did say this was gonna close today, take this as the last call to voice any objections towards the East Coast.

@DX3214 @Andronicus23 @Jeddaven @Wampower @Andreyich @Noblebandit @TheEvanCat @Crusader Lord @Mao Mao @FalloutJack @HEAVY METAL @Auz

Devastated

Well, just going off of the results we've gotten so far, it seems like this is going to be an East Coast RP.

Since I did say this was gonna close today, take this as the last call to voice any objections towards the East Coast.

@DX3214 @Andronicus23 @Jeddaven @Wampower @Andreyich @Noblebandit @TheEvanCat @Crusader Lord @Mao Mao @FalloutJack @HEAVY METAL @Auz

Just curious as to how far up and down the coast we can go.