But it's the governments making the decision on whether an individual requires that rehabilitation/education rather than a voluntary thing, the governments and public opinion would be deciding if they're delinquents or not, which would mean that most of the characters who felt pressured into joining PRCU would probably end up in a similarly pressured situation (or just enforced enrollment) with this one, wouldn't they? Or have I missed something?

Perhaps. It's hard to say until we see the exact terms of the proposed setting in a OOC.

Again, please have faith in Hound and I that we are taking this all into account and trying to push the setting in a direction that caters to existing characters as well as any new characters you may want to create for a fresh start.

There's a very solid foundation crafted today that I think will cater to everyone, but I want to hash things out better with Hound rather than forge on ahead without him. We're grizzled vets, guys, and I like to think we're well-attuned to what's wanted from this new launch.

I will freely accept your best 'I told you so' gifs though if once we get the finalised concept out it still doesn't work for your desired character(s).

Edit: FWIW, Luce isn't well-suited to a 'delinquent' characterisation either, but I have no qualms that she would fit in what we've got so far with minimal-to-no changes.

I'll wait and see. 'bout all I can offer right now.

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The thing is characters like Lakisha, Haleigh, etc. aren't delinquents. I think that's the sticking point.

You're reading "delinquent" into it.

You're reading "delinquent" into it.

Metahuman Concentration Camp Attendee isn't much better. 😂

Allllllllright...

Have to bring some things out into the open, because having stuff all taking place behind closed doors in places and delivered and re-delivered as second hand information... well, it's not gonna get us anywhere good.

First, anyone visiting my own Workshop thread will probably see that I've been chipping away at a start on a Ju-V game. That is because at this point it's the presumptive frontrunner.

That DOES NOT make it the automatic selection. IT IS ALSO NOT the current full premise going forward. What it is, was me fooling about in the short term, tinkering with a premise and ideas, before @Roman fired up a GoogleDoc which is where the ACTUAL Ju-V premise is currently being built.

It is also not the automatic selection. AND we are VERY interested in hearing the thoughts, opinions and also votes of anyone yet to do so. With it taking an early sizable lead, though, we figured it best to get on the same page in terms of how it would basically look so we could more or less hit the ground running.

Thoughts, opinions and suggestions from the group will be considered and, quite possibly, utilised in the world building of this game. @Psych0Pomp's suggestion, being one likely example at this stage.

Further, many of you may have seen a new game proposal/characters being worked away at within @Lord Wraith's Workshop thread. This is basically to hopefully bring some kind of conclusion to the Hyperion arc.

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Now, here I am at pains to say I have made my own error. As I have communicated to many of you that I will be helping Wraith in churning out posts to bring about some closure to this arc, I also added that I sought permission and gained it from Wraith to cameo many of your characters in my own matter within this short-term, mini-RP. This is NOT ACCURATE.



I can not stress that enough.

I have been spinning plates on my end, have a good half dozen or so DM threads flying like the wind over the past few days. I asked Wraith that question, in a discussion with many directions and tangents. The flow of the conversation changed to a different area of discussion, within the same RP topic, AND I ASSUMED THE ANSWER, FORMING MY OWN CONCLUSION. I then repeated this to many of you, and that information was wrong. And that was entirely my fault.

He has since said to me:

" ... I'd rather just say the hard no, than lead people on"

And

"Also I'd rather those desiring this approach me directly than make you the middle man."

Which, given my own error already, combined with the fact he can probably see I've been about as busy as a one-legged man in an arse kicking competition, is frankly greatly appreciated.

This mini-RP is basically only to bring closure to the RP arc, and generally has little to do with the students. I was likely to use anyone who wanted to get involved in a purely cameo capacity, perhaps if I could find a thematic parallel which would work with a specific post's thrust I'd have them in forematter... something like that.

I was however, wrong to say I had permission to do that. I had assumed it on my end when no such answer had been given.

Let alone to share that false piece of information with the rest of you.

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Back to this game though. Wheels are in motion. Roman and I have been making in-roads on the less well developed ideas (read: anything out of my own head ) and we both hope you'll stick at this, bring your opinions, thoughts, suggestions (VOTES! those of you still to do so) and vision aboard for whatever we go ahead with next.

Long story short, in summary.

* What's in My Workshop is a garbled mess and not to be depended on.
* Opinions, suggestions and thoughts welcome
* The words of the old man in the chair are not to be depended on.
* Some old people sure do ramble on, don't they?

I leave for a few hours to see the new Indiana Jones and you guys had this happen. Like ???

I leave for a few hours to see the new Indiana Jones and you guys had this happen. Like ???

'This' is transparency.

To ensure the continued absence of a 'This'.

I make a mess, I clean it up.

To go off the offering suggestions for the sort of world building and direction of the RP, if we go with something like #2: I'll be straight up, I like the idea, but I may have read a different vibe from the rehabilitation than others. What I read by it, especially when talking about "instilling morality," is this has similar vibes to troubled teen and conversion therapy camps. That is probably a conversation of tone and intentionality about the program that might be a broader discussion. I think the rehabilitation program being a bad entity in the world can inspire interesting stories, but it'd definitely something we should figure out the tone of.

I know we were talking at a certain point about a Runaways type RP vibe at one point in the Discord. I don't know how linear or sandbox we are planning to go, but I imagine most of the characters that might be transferring from PRCU or being developed wholesale for this might be less than enthused about the program. It might be helpful to leave room, or make preparations, for the RP to change or develop into another direction of a group of these people to either break free or get out and try to do things in a more ethical way... or trying to figure out what that means.

It's more a down the road thing, but I figured I'd toss this rambling nonsense out in the open as a jumping point if anyone else can pick up what I put down and say it better.

To go off the offering suggestions for the sort of world building and direction of the RP, if we go with something like #2: I'll be straight up, I like the idea, but I may have read a different vibe from the rehabilitation than others. What I read by it, especially when talking about "instilling morality," is this has similar vibes to troubled teen and conversion therapy camps. That is probably a conversation of tone and intentionality about the program that might be a broader discussion. I think the rehabilitation program being a bad entity in the world can inspire interesting stories, but it'd definitely something we should figure out the tone of.

I know we were talking at a certain point about a Runaways type RP vibe at one point in the Discord. I don't know how linear or sandbox we are planning to go, but I imagine most of the characters that might be transferring from PRCU or being developed wholesale for this might be less than enthused about the program. It might be helpful to leave room, or make preparations, for the RP to change or develop into another direction of a group of these people to either break free or get out and try to do things in a more ethical way... or trying to figure out what that means.

It's more a down the road thing, but I figured I'd toss this rambling nonsense out in the open as a jumping point if anyone else can pick up what I put down and say it better.

We MAAAAAAAAAAAAY be way ahead of you on that one.

Hound and Roman are running away! Quick! Catch them!

Now, here I am at pains to say I have made my own error. As I have communicated to many of you that I will be helping Wraith in churning out posts to bring about some closure to this arc, I also added that I sought permission and gained it from Wraith to cameo many of your characters in my own matter within this short-term, mini-RP. This is NOT ACCURATE.

To be fair it wouldn't have been his permission to give regardless of the accuracy of what you said or not.

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To be fair it wouldn't have been his permission to give regardless of the accuracy of what you said or not.

It would have been both... I wasn't just going to start throwing people's characters around without, not only their creator's permission, but personal collaboration.

But ultimately I was OK-ing if it was clear to do that in the first place.

Anyway, after talking privately to Hound and some others, I will more than likely be choosing to stick around. Just hit me up with the new discord or whatever when it comes around.

Anyway, after talking privately to Hound and some others, I will more than likely be choosing to stick around. Just hit me up with the new discord or whatever when it comes around.

Oh sure, now I gotta manage a new discord server too?! When does it END with you people!?

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Oh sure, now I gotta manage a new discord server too?! When does it END with you people!?

Hey, Hound's words, not mine. Unless those were also inaccurate.

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'This' is transparency.

To ensure the continued absence of a 'This'.

I make a mess, I clean it up.

Yours truly, shown cleaning up the mess he made:

So, to get things back on track, who/how many people are considering moving over their PRCU characters to this new RP? I know some people have already mentioned something along those lines, but I figured to ask now so we can all see where everyone is at.