I know how it works; the issue is that (subtracting the 2 infamy from Beauty) this would be testing against 42. Even if the end acquisition modifier for the item is +10, that's still only a 50% chance of getting anything out of it. So, in the end, Wealth would just be a minor willpower penalty for no returns. XD

Though the system is simple; the only hard part is trying to remember the exact values. Rarity, quantity, craftsmanship. Rarer, better, and more is harder. Simple enough.

I already had this sitting around in my Google Drive thingy, so I'll just link it here instead of filling out the CS rubric thingy, I suppose. I just need to tinker with it a little, since we can apparently start off already aligned to a Chaos God.

He's more or less what you'd expect Space Mozart to look like. Powdered wig, needlessly fancy clothes, etc.

Omega said
Hah, I just noticed a mistake I made, i have been wondering why everyone's infamy was so high. it seems for everything else you roll 2d10 but for infamy is 1d5 at start. I had to go look at that again when I saw it possible to start in terminator armor easily.Edit: I see you rolled your right though I noticed that with the wealth pride you actually have to roll for the item in question.

Not quite! From the Black Crusade errata's FAQ (you can google it yourself if neccesary):

Black Crusade's Errata said Question:
The Character background “Wealth” allows for an
additional acquisition roll at +20 during character creation.
However, there are no acquisition “rolls” made at creation; the
acquisition is automatic. Is this intended to be an extra creation
acquisition at +20, or is it supposed to be an actual roll?
Answer:
It is not a roll, it is an additional acquisition.

Greetings, fellow heretics, this is your captain speaking.
I would like you to give a great big Heretical welcome to the ship we'll be traveling on: the Havoc-class merchant raider "Garden of Flesh".
Oh, and don't worry, Omega, it's all good now, I did the math stuff as I remade it.

But is it an acquisition with a modifier +20 (and thus basically one common item) or one with a total modifier -30 and therefore 20 more than normal?

Name: Celeste Davayos
Archetype: Renegade
Pride; Beauty +2 Infamy -4 WP
Disgrace: Gluttony +2 Wounds – 5 AG
Motivation: Perfection +5 WS, -3 INT, -3 Fel
Appearance:

Characteristics:
- WS: 62 (42+5+5+10)
- BS: 40 (35+5)
- S: 39
- T: 44
- AG: 36 (36-5+5)
- Int: 40 (43-3)
- Per: 37
- WP 33 (37-4)
- Fel: 52(40-3+15)
- Inf: 44 (20+2+10+12)

Skills: Athletics, Awareness, Dodge, Parry, Scholastic Lore (Tactica Imperialis), common Lore War, Operate Ground, Command, Dodge +10, Survival, Tech Use, Forbidden Lore (Inquisition), Trade (Prostitution), Linguistics (Low Gothic), Forbidden Lore (Adeptus Astartes), Forbidden Lore (Heresy), Common Lore (Adeptus Arbites), Common Lore (Imperial Navy)

Talents/Traits: Jaded, Quick Draw, Rapid Reload, Weapon Training (Chain, Las, SP, Primary, Power), Heavy Weapon training, weapon Training bolt, catfall, sure strike, disarm, ambidextrous, Lesser minion, Lesser Minion, Air of Authority, Minion, Minion,Minion, The Quick and The Dead

Gear: Good Craftsmanship Boltgun, Common Craftsmanship Bolt Pistol, Common Craftsmanship Power Mace, Carapace Armour, Medikit, Dataslate with annotated Version of Tactica Imperialis, Pict Recorder, Laud Hailer

Wounds: 17

Infamy Points: 44
Corruption Points: 20

Gifts of The Gods: Magnificent Horns, Burning Body

Psy Rating: 0
Psychic Powers:

Alignment: Slaanesh

Advances: WS Experience Purchase 250, Lesser Minion Purchase 250, Lesser Minion Purchase, Charm 100, Air of Authority 100, minion purchase, minion purchase 500, minion purchase, WS 750, Infamy 750, FW 850, Forbidden Lore (Adeptus Astartes), Forbidden Lore (Heresy), Common Lore (Adeptus Arbites), Common Lore (Imperial Navy)
Exp: 0
Reqs: Pheremone Generator, Nerve Induction Tines, Melta Gun, Laud Hailer
MINION
Name: Kavayah.

WS: 5
BS: 30
S: 10
T: 20
AG: 15
INT: 5
PER: 5
WP: 5
Fel: 5

Skills: Athletics, Dodge, Operate Air, tech use
Talents: Weapon Training (Las), Weapon Training (Melta), Rapid Reload, Quick Draw, Jaded
Gear: Long Las, Guard Flak Armor, Melta Gun
Wounds: 4

Alaysia

WS: 5
BS: 30
S:10
T:30
AG: 5
Int: 5
Per:5
WP:5
Fel:5
Skills: Athletics, Dodge, Survival, Operate Air
Talents: Weapon Flame Weapons, rapid reload, quick draw, Jaded, Disarm
Gear: Guard Flak Armor, Flamer
Wounds: 4

Vadia

WS:30
BS:30
S:30
T:30
AG:20
IN: 10
PER:10
WP:10
FEL:5
Wounds: 6
Skills: Athletics, Operate land, Interrogation, Intimidate, Medicae, Parry
Talents: rapid reload, Weapon Training (SP), Weapon Training (Chain), Jaded, Catfall, Quickdraw, Disarm
Gear: Heavy Stubber, Chain Axe, Carpace armor

Miva

WS:30
BS:30
S:30
T:30
AG:20
IN: 10
PER:10
WP:10
FEL:5
Wounds: 6
Skills: Athletics, Operate land, Interrogation, Intimidate, Medicae, Parry
Talents: rapid reload, Weapon Training (SP), Weapon Training (Chain), Jaded, Catfall, Quickdraw, Disarm
Gear: Heavy Stubber, Chain Axe, Carpace armor Miva
Kallison

WS:30
BS:30
S:30
T:30
AG:20
IN: 10
PER:10
WP:10
FEL:5
Wounds: 6
Skills: Athletics, Operate Air, Interrogation, Intimidate, Medicae, Parry
Talents: rapid reload, Weapon Training (SP), Weapon Training (Chain), Jaded, Catfall, Quickdraw, Disarm
Gear: Heavy Stubber, Chain Axe, Carpace armor

Polyjester said
I already had this sitting around in my Google Drive thingy, so I'll just link it instead of filling out the CS rubric thingy, I suppose. I just need to tinker with it a little, since we can apparently start off already aligned to a Chaos God.He's more or less what you'd expect to look like. Powdered wig, needlessly fancy clothes, etc.

Certainly an intriguing idea, I will ask you to roll stats for this campaign specifically though for him when you get the chance.

Zed said
Greetings, fellow heretics, this is your captain speaking.I would like you to give a great big Heretical welcome to the ship we'll be traveling on: the Havoc-class merchant raider .Oh, and don't worry, Omega, it's all good now, I did the math stuff as I remade it.

I see you made some noteworthy alterations, I shall look over it more closely when I get a chance but I do not think I see any kind of a primary cargo hold of making off with acquired loot.

Raineh Daze said
But is it an acquisition with a modifier +20 (and thus basically one common item) or one with a total modifier -30 and therefore 20 more than normal?

Think of it as adding 20 to your infamy.

Edit: After work tomorrow expect me to get up the starting setting. The current plan is an Imperial hive world which was nearing the throes of rebellion as several cults made large inroads into mid hive regions of most large hive cities. Zed's pirate prince was lured in by promises of wealth just in time for the Imperial response to show up. A veritable army of arbites and an actual army of Imperial Guard quickly made planetfall and the small escort fleet succeeded in chasing off Zed's vessel stranding him planetside.

The upper hives have now been secured in swift order and are pushing down into the mid-hive regions. Your characters will be given a choice, try to seize the world for your own or find a way to flee it before Imperial Guardsmen, Arbites, or even the rumored Inquisitors on planet kill you.

Name: Malignus Raevan
Archetype: Psyker
Pride: Devotion (+5 Willpower, -5 Strength.)
Disgrace: Regret (+5 Corruption, +10 to Opponents attempting Intimidation)
Motivation: Innovation (+3 Intelligence, +2 Corruption, -2 Wounds.)



Characteristics:
- WS: 51 (36+15[xp])
- BS: 42
- S: 31 (36-5[Devotion])
- T: 37
- AG: 30
- Int: 36 (33+3[Innovation])
- Per: 43
- WP: 58 (33+5[Psyker]+5[Devotion]+15[xp])
- Fel: 36
- Inf: 36 (24+12[GM changed])

Skills: Awareness, Psyniscience, Forbidden Lore (Psyker), Intimidate, Parry, Common Lore (Geminus Sector), Common Lore (Koronus Expanse), Linguistics (Low Gothic), Trade (Chymist),

Talents/Traits: Psy Rating 3, Jaded, (Up to 500xp worth of Psychic Powers in Unaligned), Telekinesis Disciplines, Weapon Training (Shock), Warp Sense, Weapon Training (Plasma), Two Weapon Wielder, Blasphemous Incantation, The Quick and the Dead.

Gear: Common Craftsmanship Laspistol, Common Craftsmanship Neural Whip, Flak Cloak, Psy Focus, Dataslate containing Arcane Lore.
Acquisitions; Good quality Xenos Hide, Common quality Plasma Pistol, Black Blood implant.

Wounds: 7

Infamy Points: 36
Corruption Points: 32

Gifts of The Gods: Additional Limb (Right arm attached to right arm) / Winged (Tzeentch-like feathered wings)

Psy Rating: 5
Psychic Powers:
Unaligned; Doombolt, Foul Cage, Abhorrent Ward.
Tzeentch; Gholam's Curse.
Telekinetic; Force Bolt, Force Storm, Telekinetic Weapon, Telekinetic Shield, Mind over Matter.

Alignment: Tzeentch



Experience Total
Current: 50xp
Spent: 5,550xp/500xp from starting talents (given for unaligned psychic powers)

Name: Argent
Archetype: Heretek
Pride: Craftsmanship
Disgrace: Wrath
Motivation: Perfection
Appearance: Picking your name based on your hair colour is really unimaginative. Then again, it could just as well be for the structure of her organs, or the gleam on the uncanny amounts of metal she has attached to her back. Lots of shiny metal (serving Chaos is no reason to let things get rusty), and a VERY tall, rather stretched-seeming former tech-priest. Not many people can say that they can see eye to eye with an unarmoured Astartes. But the galaxy has all sorts.

Characteristics:
- WS: 38
- BS: 31
- S: 37
- T: 42
- AG: 44
- Int: 70
- Per: 46
- WP 35
- Fel: 36
- Inf: 22

Skills: Logic, Common Lore (Tech, Mechanicus, Imperium, Geminus Sector), Tech Use +30, Dodge, Forbidden Lore (Archeotech)+30 (Mechanicus), Scholastic Lore (Chymistry), Medicae, Security, Trade (Armourer), Psyniscience

Talents/Traits: Mechanicus Implants, The Quick and the Dead, Binary Chatter
Die Hard, Technical Knock, Weapon Training (Las, Primary, Shock), Weapon Training (Power), Mechadendrite Training (Utility & Weapon), Total Recall, Armour-Monger, Weapon-Tech, Cold Hearted, Enemy (Adeptus Mechanicus)

Gear: Best-Quality Lascarbine, Common-Quality Power Axe, Light Carapace Armour, Unholy Unguents, Combi-Tool, Dataslate, Utility Mechadendrite, Embedded Auspex (Good), Manipulator Mechadendrite, Medicae Mechadendrite, Mechanicus Assimilation 1, Luminem Capacitors

Wounds: 16
AP: 8

Infamy Points: 34
Corruption Points: 20

Gifts of The Gods: Steel Hearted, Ecstatic Duplication

Psy Rating:
Psychic Powers:

Alignment: Tzeentch

Advances: Medicae, Weapon-Tech, Intelligence (Basic->Expert), Tech-Use (Experienced->Veteran), Forbidden Lore (Archeotech) -> Veteran, Psyniscience, Forbidden Lore (Mechanicus)
XP Costs: 250, 200, 2500, 1250, 1200, 100, 100

Perfection took from BS and Fel, added to Intelligence. Advances include starting XP spent.

And the book does indeed put the maximum height for a person at Astartes level. :p

I do not see any issues Rainah, welcome fully aboard. Do you have any ideas for where your character will be starting out at with the start for the setting? I am giving people free reign largely with what they are doing on the world whether it be passing through, something nefarious such as horrific experiments or forming chaos cults, and if you want a simple openning people can work out a position on Zed's ship probably.

Rainah if you get a chance to make thing seasier to keep track of for me can you add the costs to your advances bought? I realize now that i forgot a section for people to keep track of their exp on the character sheet.

I believe that in the book you can be slightly taller than some astartes though I am not sure. Astartes kind of vary between 7-9 feet in height and humans can get over 8 I think.

Scouring the place for decent implants, probably; she might have given up on the whole 'deny pleasure!' aspect of the machine cult, but not so much the 'replace flesh!' part. Also practising SCIENCE. :p

Added something for that.

I really wish i had the books because i just remembered a key thing about the planet and I am unsure if I am wanting you to use the right skill to check for it.

edit: If someone can list all the tech, lore, and history related skills I can make sure people are making the right skill check. Anyone interested in history or technology would be making this skillcheck prior to starting the campaign after character creation and depending on how many degrees of success can start with various levels of information or disinformation.

edit; edit: Now that i think about it, I will just have everyone make various skillchecks to know certain things since there is a lot of potential info to start with.

Rainah, if you are finished with character creation go ahead and make 3 skill checks. Common Lore (Tech), Common Lore (Mechanicus), and Forbidden Lore (Archeotech).

Success on Tech and Archeotech, failure on Mechanicus.

BIG success on Tech and Arcehotech. I think that's... 5 degrees of success on each with the way they work in this? XD

Omega said Certainly an intriguing idea, I will ask you to roll stats for this campaign specifically though for him when you get the chance.

Ouch. This die roller is nowhere near as friendly as invisiblecastle was last time. Verdi's stats are still tolerable, I suppose. Do we get a reroll for whatever was lowest?

Polyjester said
This die roller is nowhere near as friendly as invisiblecastle was last time. Verdi's stats are still tolerable, I suppose. Do we get a reroll for whatever was lowest?

Yes.

Name: Embra Parasitif.
Archetype: Q’Sal Magister Immaterials

Pride: Craftmanship.
Disgrace: Wrath.
Motivations: Innovation.



Characteristics:
Weapon Skill: 33 (- 3) = 30
Ballistic Skill: 33 (- 3) = 30
Strength: 40
Toughness: 33
Agility: 31 (+ 3) = 34
Intelligence: 42 (+ 5 + 3 + 3) = 53
Perception: 37 (+ 5) = 42
Willpower: 33 (+ 5 - 2 + 5 + 5 + 5) = 51
Fellowship: 30 (+ 5) = 35

Skills: Awareness, Deceive (+10), Common Lore (Corona), Dodge, Forbidden Lore (Psykers), Inquiry, Logic, Psyniscience (+10), Scholastic Lore (Legend), Scrutiny, Linguistics (Chaos Marks), Scholastic Lore (Heresy), Forbidden Lore (Daemonology), Forbidden Lore (Warp), Common Lore (War), Common Lore (Geminus Sector), Trade (Archaeologist)

Traits/Talents: The Quick and the Dead, Chaos Psyker (Psy Rating x4), Magus Supremus, (Up to 500 xp worth of Psychic Powers chosen from Unaligned, Divination, Biomancy, Pyromancy, Telepathy, or Telekinesis Disciplines, as well as 300 xp chosen from any of the above or the Tzeentch powers), Paranoia, Strong Minded, Weapon Training (Primary), Weapon Training (Exotic) (Q’Sal), Weapon Training (SP), Child of the Warp.

Gear: Common Quality Q’Sal Crystal Caster, Common Craftmanship Force Staff, Grimoire containing acquired lore, Mesh Combat Cloak, Best Craftmanship Backpack, Common Craftmanship Light Power Armour (Auto Senses, Vox Link, Sustainable Power Source, Spikes), Common Craftmanship Trophy Rack, Common Craftmanship Melta-Bomb.

Wounds: 9 (+ -1 + -2) = 6
Infamy: 22 (+ 3 + 9 + 5 +1) = 40
Corruption Points: 1 (+ 5 + 15 + 2) = 23

Gifts of the Gods:
Daemonic Name
Tail (Tzeentch)

Psy Rating: 4
Psychic Powers: Manifest Flame, Fire Bolt, Mind over Matter, Force Bolt, Thought Sending, Compel.

Alignment: Tzeentch

Advances: Willpower (Simple) (Intermediate) (Trained)

Experience total: 1000 (+ 500 for Unaligned etc spells + 300 for either Unaligned etc or Tzeentch spells = 800)
Current: 150
Spent: 850 (500 Unaligned etc spells + 300 for either Unaligned etc or Tzeentch spells = 800)

Raineh Daze said
failure on Mechanicus.BIG success on Tech and Arcehotech. I think that's... 5 degrees of success on each with the way they work in this? XD

When i get off work I will check my book but if you succeeded as well as you say that is going to be huge and you will get to see a unique aspect of how I do knowledge oriented checks.

Polyjester said
This die roller is nowhere near as friendly as invisiblecastle was last time. Verdi's stats are still tolerable, I suppose. Do we get a reroll for whatever was lowest?

You can reroll one stat of your choice though if you do you must take the reroll.

I plan for everyone to do a check for knowledge about the planet and hive once I figure out the name of the check.

Crayt, since Q’Sal is in a completely seperate sector from us you can basically substitute that for knowledge of your home world which I can give you free reign almost to create a Tzeentchian world or ask about maybe some Tzeentchian worlds I planned or have made for this RP.

Put my WiP up there.

I'll just wait for Omega to get back on the IRC to answer my question. Iunno, just in case he gets on here before the IRC i guess i'll post it anyway.

I'm just wondering about a Psyker starting talent, it says Up to 500xp worth of psychic powers chosen from Unaligned. Does that mean I start with +5 or +10 or what have you towards the talent choices/available talents from the Unaligned section?

Omega said
When i get off work I will check my book but if you succeeded as well as you say that is going to be huge and you will get to see a unique aspect of how I do knowledge oriented checks.

Normally it's 0 degrees of success, +1 for every extra 10 you succeed by. Black Crusade starts you off at one degree of success. I think I've remembered that right, at least.

Polyjester i will give your sheet a fully thorough look through when i get off work for now though I believe you are accepted and please make the following checks.

Forbidden Lore (Pirates) and Scholastic Lore (Occult)