[OOC] The War of the Three

[Lucius Cypher]

@Lonewolf685

The barrier thing was what I was also a bit confused about, since I wasn't sure if the barrier was just keeping Grafdakka's arm in place or protecting her, but now I know it's both. I thought she was just using the barrier to lock up his arm but for some reason leaving herself exposed to the heat of the thrusters.

With that cleared up Grafdakka doesn't nessiarily need to keep her pinned so much as prevent her from stopping Endian from escaping, which I hope would be easy since there's a giant mech between where Anata is and where Endian is going (Grafdakka had been digging straight down so his drill/arms are pointing dowards, and Endian is going straight up).

As for the other arms Grafdakka can simply stop his big drill configuration and just revert back to six chainsaw form, and then slice or otherwise tear his arm off. He's a giant mech, he doesn't mind.

As for Endian she's far more agile than Grafdakka even with full thrusters, so being fast enough shouldn't be a problem. She can also use her hard light creation to create her own drill to dig out, and while it's not the same reality warping calamity weapon as Grafdakka, it's more than enough to dig her out of the hole she's in. I don't expect for Endian to make back to the surface quickly, mind you, since she does have a few miles of dirt to tunnel through. What she needs Eos's defense booster for us to survive the explosion when Grafdakka self destructs, which will be about two seconds after Endian breaks through the dirt and start going upwards, otherwise the self destruct alone would've killed her even if she did somehow get a head start drilling.

I should also bring up that while Grafdakka's self destruction is powerful enough to incinerate him and anyone near him, it's not the same nuclear blast as the previous versions had since his nuclear reactor had been removed to accommodate piloting space.

[Lucius Cypher]

Damn double post

[The 42nd Gecko]

@Flamelord I've got my plan in mind for defending myself from the plasma, and it might end up making things better or worse for Tartys. Your call if you want to wait for Ruxen and then Artoria to post in response to it.

[Lonewolf685]

@Lonewolf685

With that cleared up Grafdakka doesn't nessiarily need to keep her pinned so much as prevent her from stopping Endian from escaping, which I hope would be easy since there's a giant mech between where Anata is and where Endian is going (Grafdakka had been digging straight down so his drill/arms are pointing dowards, and Endian is going straight up).

As for the other arms Grafdakka can simply stop his big drill configuration and just revert back to six chainsaw form, and then slice or otherwise tear his arm off. He's a giant mech, he doesn't mind.

@Lucius Cypher

Well feel free to stop trying to drill, though that means he has to stop his thrusters to avoid splattering himself into the rock or toast Endian in her escape. Also you just mentioned how cramped the tunnel was so we'll have to see how effectively he can use six arms to slash at his own drill arm, let alone Ananta.

Let's see how well that goes for Endian when she leaves her armored carapace into a dark tunnel with a serpent ready to strike.

Also wasn't he drilling at any angle, not straight down?

As for Endian she's far more agile than Grafdakka even with full thrusters, so being fast enough shouldn't be a problem. She can also use her hard light creation to create her own drill to dig out, and while it's not the same reality warping calamity weapon as Grafdakka, it's more than enough to dig her out of the hole she's in. I don't expect for Endian to make back to the surface quickly, mind you, since she does have a few miles of dirt to tunnel through. What she needs Eos's defense booster for us to survive the explosion when Grafdakka self destructs, which will be about two seconds after Endian breaks through the dirt and start going upwards, otherwise the self destruct alone would've killed her even if she did somehow get a head start drilling.

I should also bring up that while Grafdakka's self destruction is powerful enough to incinerate him and anyone near him, it's not the same nuclear blast as the previous versions had since his nuclear reactor had been removed to accommodate piloting space.

Considering Graf had done all of this digging with a reality destroying drill scaled for a colossal Mecha, Endian would have to do the same course with hardlight constructs on a tunnel that resealed itself in Grafdakka's passing and has increased to disastrous temperatures on top of it.

Sure, that's a hazard for the both of them, though considering how long such an upwards ascent would take and Graf is left at the bottom to self destruct only after Endian surfaces...Weeeeeelll, you can see how this plan doesn't seem to hold a lot of water unless you wanted to be in a pitch darkness with a very cross snake.

[Lucius Cypher]

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Well feel free to stop trying to drill, though that means he has to stop his thrusters to avoid splattering himself into the rock or toast Endian in her escape. Also you just mentioned how cramped the tunnel was so we'll have to see how effectively he can use six arms to slash at his own drill arm, let alone Ananta.

Let's see how well that goes for Endian when she leaves her armored carapace into a dark tunnel with a serpent ready to strike.

@Lonewolf685

Grafdakka could survive the impact. At the very least, it wouldn't harm Endian. With the mental image I have, Anata is currently clinging to the "front" of Grafdakka, holding on tight to his arm. Endian will be leaving via drilling out of the back, so Anata has to get through or around Grafdakka to get to Endian. And that's assuming Anata isn't also squished when Grafdakka splats into the dirt.

Also wasn't he drilling at any angle, not straight down?

He might've been. Still, Endian knows where to go.

Considering Graf had done all of this digging with a reality destroying drill scaled for a colossal Mecha, Endian would have to do the same course with hardlight constructs on a tunnel that resealed itself in Grafdakka's passing and has increased to disastrous temperatures on top of it.

Sure, that's a hazard for the both of them, though considering how long such an upwards ascent would take and Graf is left at the bottom to self destruct only after Endian surfaces...Weeeeeelll, you can see how this plan doesn't seem to hold a lot of water unless you wanted to be in a pitch darkness with a very cross snake.

Oh no, Grafdakka isn't going to explode as soon as Endian reaches the surface. He's going to explode as soon as Endian starts digging, as in pretty much shortly after Endian bursts out of Grafdakka. That's why Endian needs Eos defense booster: Endian is pretty much at ground zero of the Grafdakka bomb with Anata.

[Lmpkio]

@Lucius Cypher Must Grafdakka always self-destruct in every battle?

(Kidding; pretty sure he hasn't in some other battles)

[Lonewolf685]

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Grafdakka could survive the impact. At the very least, it wouldn't harm Endian. With the mental image I have, Anata is currently clinging to the "front" of Grafdakka, holding on tight to his arm. Endian will be leaving via drilling out of the back, so Anata has to get through or around Grafdakka to get to Endian. And that's assuming Anata isn't also squished when Grafdakka splats into the dirt.

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He might've been. Still, Endian knows where to go.

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Oh no, Grafdakka isn't going to explode as soon as Endian reaches the surface. He's going to explode as soon as Endian starts digging, as in pretty much shortly after Endian bursts out of Grafdakka. That's why Endian needs Eos defense booster: Endian is pretty much at ground zero of the Grafdakka bomb with Anata.

@Lucius Cypher

Frankly I can't fathom how Endian, buffed or not, could survive a Grafdakka detonation in an enclosed space that would only intensify the force of the blast with only a two second headstart to her escape, but debating things here won't change events.

Post as you like. I'll react accordingly.

[Lucius Cypher]

@Lmpkio

It's a legitimate tactic!

@Lonewolf685

Yeah honestly I doubt Endian could either. My original plan was to still self-destruct suicide, albeit trying to maneuver closer to the surface so the blast could possibly take out other angels up top too. But if KoL is going to give me a defense buff than I'll take whatever I can get. For every inch a mile.

[Flamelord]

@Flamelord I've got my plan in mind for defending myself from the plasma, and it might end up making things better or worse for Tartys. Your call if you want to wait for Ruxen and then Artoria to post in response to it.

@The 42nd Gecko

My plan is 'apply magic. Lots of magic', so whatever happens happens. I'll probably just get up a post whenever I feel like it

[The 42nd Gecko]

@KoL I realized I'm not as one hundred percent sure on my physics/power levels for this next post, so running this by the resident maths/gm.

Boom

~Interaction with Artoria, leaving when bunny ears sense danger, to counter the plasma~

Perhaps not taking the action Eos might expect with abusing her portals to absorb the attack and then release it back, Artoria felt she had no need to do so. She already had a plan to turn this newest attack against Eos that did not require that. She unleashed all of her power, and Ira, and Mephila's power, behind the Leviathan's breath, Artoria sent forth an impromptu glacier of ice at the incoming star of plasma, focusing on creating as much ice with as warm a temperature as ice could have. This was to meet her very special goal, which was not to defend herself, but to destroy KC-00032. Under the extreme heat of the plasma, the ice would be transformed into oxygen and hydrogen, and have a LOT of energy applied to it. Splitting a water atom into it's constituent parts required about 2.96 eV, and the plasma of a star met that requirement even at middling temperatures, and was soo, soo much hotter than that at its core. The heat applied to the ice would also cause explosions from the gas forming so rapidly and so hotly, creating a pressure wave and explosion, in addition to the extra explosion from freed hydrogen igniting. And then Artoria hit it from her side with all the stored energy Ira and Mephila's powers could draw upon from the Gates of Tartarus' stored lava, to make absolutely sure the whole thing exploded magnificently.

As this attack wasn't Eos' or Artoria's, but rather the result of their attacks clashing, Eos' anti-friendly-fire magic wouldn't be able to prevent it from harming allies, but neither would Artoria be able to use Manifest Destiny to do the same.

This would be equivalent to two faction leaders joining their powers to create as massive a purely physical explosion as they could. That would be threatening to the well being of KC-00032 under the most optimal of circumstances. This was happening, INSIDE the factory, the literally most devastating place the explosion could occur. Nukes had little to show compared to the true power of one faction leader, much less two (even if one was cheating with stolen powers and demonic advantage to get on that level).

Even with using a portal to shield herself from the frontal angle forces and Ira and Mephila's innate resilience, much of Artoria's body would be torn to shreds merely from the astronomical physical forces being exerted in this explosion. She would also likely splat against the top of the angelic barrier preventing exodus from the Factory, if it still existed. The Factory or the Barrier both being valid terms for "it" in the last sentence.

[KoL]

@KoL I realized I'm not as one hundred percent sure on my physics/power levels for this next post, so running this by the resident maths/gm.

Boom

~Interaction with Artoria, leaving when bunny ears sense danger, to counter the plasma~

Perhaps not taking the action Eos might expect with abusing her portals to absorb the attack and then release it back, Artoria felt she had no need to do so. She already had a plan to turn this newest attack against Eos that did not require that. She unleashed all of her power, and Ira, and Mephila's power, behind the Leviathan's breath, Artoria sent forth an impromptu glacier of ice at the incoming star of plasma, focusing on creating as much ice with as warm a temperature as ice could have. This was to meet her very special goal, which was not to defend herself, but to destroy KC-00032. Under the extreme heat of the plasma, the ice would be transformed into oxygen and hydrogen, and have a LOT of energy applied to it. Splitting a water atom into it's constituent parts required about 2.96 eV, and the plasma of a star met that requirement even at middling temperatures, and was soo, soo much hotter than that at its core. The heat applied to the ice would also cause explosions from the gas forming so rapidly and so hotly, creating a pressure wave and explosion, in addition to the extra explosion from freed hydrogen igniting. And then Artoria hit it from her side with all the stored energy Ira and Mephila's powers could draw upon from the Gates of Tartarus' stored lava, to make absolutely sure the whole thing exploded magnificently.

As this attack wasn't Eos' or Artoria's, but rather the result of their attacks clashing, Eos' anti-friendly-fire magic wouldn't be able to prevent it from harming allies, but neither would Artoria be able to use Manifest Destiny to do the same.

This would be equivalent to two faction leaders joining their powers to create as massive a purely physical explosion as they could. That would be threatening to the well being of KC-00032 under the most optimal of circumstances. This was happening, INSIDE the factory, the literally most devastating place the explosion could occur. Nukes had little to show compared to the true power of one faction leader, much less two (even if one was cheating with stolen powers and demonic advantage to get on that level).

Even with using a portal to shield herself from the frontal angle forces and Ira and Mephila's innate resilience, much of Artoria's body would be torn to shreds merely from the astronomical physical forces being exerted in this explosion. She would also likely splat against the top of the angelic barrier preventing exodus from the Factory, if it still existed. The Factory or the Barrier both being valid terms for "it" in the last sentence.

@The 42nd Gecko

Eh... how many "End the battle in one fell swoop" attacks must I negate just on this battle?

The simple answer is, you can use the Leviathan's breath to counter part of Eos' attack, making Artoria survive. But, no real life physics/chemistry here. Magic can counter other magic (maybe even explode a bit) but that's all that there's to it.

Also, it'll only affect the section of the factory where Ruxen and Artoria are, not the whole of it, so Mephilus(a) and Tartys are going to take the torching normally.

[TheWendil]

@KoL

To be fair, I expected Gecko's post to damage the factory. Not destroy it all outright but it would leave it some damage.

As for the physics stuff I leave that to the smart people.

[KoL]

@KoL

To be fair, I expected Gecko's post to damage the factory. Not destroy it all outright but it would leave it some damage.

As for the physics stuff I leave that to the smart people.

@TheWindel

Like I said, explode a bit is one fair thing, destroy the whole factory and everyone inside of it is another whole different ball game.

Yeah, leave that be, I really don't want this game to be more complicated than it already is.

[TheWendil]

@The 42nd Gecko

Hold that notion: we're discussing your post at the moment.

[The 42nd Gecko]

@KoL I do feel like I have to turn every move Eos makes against her, use physics, and deny Eos straight contests of power, or challenging Eos would be really really dumb. In other words, Artoria needs to fight smarter than Eos if she's gonna want a ghost of a chance. Or basically, do what I had intended to do with Miyu, but with a Faction Leader+Knight+General+Starting power level to even get to start trying to do clever stuff.

That said, mostly I just wanted to see what this would be on a huge scale.

[KoL]

@KoL I do feel like I have to turn every move Eos makes against her, use physics, and deny Eos straight contests of power, or challenging Eos would be really really dumb. In other words, Artoria needs to fight smarter than Eos if she's gonna want a ghost of a chance. Or basically, do what I had intended to do with Miyu, but with a Faction Leader+Knight+General+Starting power level to even get to start trying to do clever stuff.

That said, mostly I just wanted to see what this would be on a huge scale.

@The 42nd Gecko

I should be sleeping now, so I cannot explain too much until tomorrow.

The thing I want to day it's just that Artoria can have her chance. I just don't want to complicate things more than out need to. She can explode stuff, just not get rid of the whole factory in one move. That's my only real problem with that idea.

[Lmpkio]

Posted for Unit-T, only waiting for Rayona to do Shizuka before continuing with Mephilius.

[KoL]

Anyway, I'll be able to get in details tomorrow, if need be. Now, I'm going to bed.

[Flamelord]

Posted for Unit-T, only waiting for Rayona to do Shizuka before continuing with Mephilius.

@Lmpkio

Man, it's a good thing Machina are resistant to Holy Magic, huh?

[Lmpkio]

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Man, it's a good thing Machina are resistant to Holy Magic, huh?

@Flamelord

Good indeed. Unit-T wouldn't be as lucky if it were Hell magic.