[OOC] The War of the Three

[TheWendil]

@thewizardguy

That's fine. But after Khaine we will no longer be accepting more Machina people. The other Factions need some attention.

[thewizardguy]

@TheWindel
People are en-masse joining the machine because Eos is the most reasonable leader, and the Machina has good spokespeople. Maybe have the leaders of the other factions realize that they're losing soldiers to the Machina and have some sort of 'recruitment campaign'?

[The 42nd Gecko]

@thewizardguy That would be exceptionally fun to watch. I can't wait to see Rufus' idea of a recruitment campaign.

[KoL]

@TheWindel
People are en-masse joining the machine because Eos is the most reasonable leader, and the Machina has good spokespeople. Maybe have the leaders of the other factions realize that they're losing soldiers to the Machina and have some sort of 'recruitment campaign'?

@thewizardguy

I wonder who is this person you of? Certainly it isn't the same one that openly declared that she was going to backstab and crush anyone who joined her if they didn't agree with her cause. I believe so, right?

[Lucius Cypher]

Hey I'm all up for making Endian run a PR campaign to win the hearts and minds of the Machina. They already got their Pop God Idol in Eos, now they just need to spread propaganda all over the Nexus. Cultural Victory!

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I wonder who is this person you of? Certainly it isn't the same one that openly declared that she was going to backstab and crush anyone who joined her if they didn't agree with her cause. I believe so, right?

@KoL

Hey, a good PR person can twist even lies into the truth, and turn the worse news into a minor inconvenience. Plus while I say hearts and minds, I don't mind a bit of shock and awe too. "Come join our create and wonderful Machina, or we'll crush you lovingly~"

[KoL]

@thewizardguy I'm tempted to suggest that you have him meet up with Maceroy, since I half-need something to do with him anyway, given that the Harvester is going to be occupied with the whole digital charting mission for a while. And maybe their interaction would be interesting, or at least eventful, given that Maceroy rather detests demons, especially those that are essentially his opposite in how they act.

EDIT: Whup, never mind. Windel's got a better idea.

@BCTheEntity

Actually, not. This is a side quest that he can work on while not in battle, which should begin at any moment now, I'm just waiting for @TheWindel's word before beginning that.

By the way, there's nothing forbidding Mace from joining the Harvester on this trial. Since they are partners, I supposed that was a given, but well...

[BCTheEntity]

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I wonder who is this person you of? Certainly it isn't the same one that openly declared that she was going to backstab and crush anyone who joined her if they didn't agree with her cause. I believe so, right?

@KoL

In fairness, that's still better than "Sure, Heaven's nice, so long as you're an angel or a harpy, and don't even think about doing anything that doesn't fit into our excessively rigid culture's norms," and "Come join us in Hell! We have torture and slavery, which you'll probably be on the receiving end of!"

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Actually, not. This is a side quest that he can work on while not in battle, which should begin at any moment now, I'm just waiting for @TheWindel's word before beginning that.

By the way, there's nothing forbidding Mace from joining the Harvester on this trial. Since they are partners, I supposed that was a given, but well...

@KoL

Ah. I wasn't sure, on account of the Datascape sounds very... non-accessible to beings whose minds are still tied to their fleshy brains.

[KoL]

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In fairness, that's still better than "Sure, Heaven's nice, so long as you're an angel or a harpy, and don't even think about doing anything that doesn't fit into our excessively rigid culture's norms,"

@BCTheEntity

What makes you all think that Harpies have any form of special importance to the Heavens? Sincerely, as far as troops go, they are middle to low class when compared to the actual stuff that Heaven has to offer. The only thing they seem to have in excess is self importance and ego that doesn't match the powers they can dish out. Also, the social norms you mention are mostly an assumption on the players' side that never ever gets addressed IC because people quite never do anything on Celestia.

"Come join us in Hell! We have torture and slavery, which you'll probably be on the receiving end of!"

@BCTheEntity

IC shows the fact that Hell is historically the most active faction. Either people are true masochists here or there's something else of interest there.

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Ah. I wasn't sure, on account of the Datascape sounds very... non-accessible to beings whose minds are still tied to their fleshy brains.

@BCTheEntity

Why would you think that when I even mentioned Tron as an inspiration?

[BCTheEntity]

What makes you all think that Harpies have any form of special importance to the Heavens? Sincerely, as far as troops go, they are middle to low class when compared to the actual stuff that Heaven has to offer. The only thing they seem to have in excess is self importance and ego that don't match the powers they can dish out. Also, the social normas you mention are mostly an assumption on the players' side that never ever gets addressed IC because people quite never do anything on Celestia.

@KoL

Well, I imagine that's why there aren't so many Harpy PCs - most harpies are relatively weak. And as far as social norms, that's just what I'd been told by other players, honestly.

IC shows the fact that Hell is historically the most active faction. Either people are true masochists here or there's something else of interest there.

Conflict? I imagine it helps that the PCs are less likely to be on the receiving end of torture, being PCs and all.

Why would you think that when I even mentioned Tron as an inspiration?

...I kind of just assumed, honestly. My bad. But in that case, I'd love to have Maceroy join the Harvester on his mission. It's a good option.

[KoL]

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Well, I imagine that's why there aren't so many Harpy PCs - ost harpies are relatively weak. And as far as social norms, that's just what I'd been told by other players, honestly.

@BCTheEntity

More like because none of them ever did anything worthy of note but had the gall to call themselves Juno-killing monstrosities. When you are that proud but can't back your words with actions while being a "champion" to your kind, it's easy to put your whole race to ridicule. Harpies are nothing more than loud neighbors that people in Celestia tolerate because they serve as good cannon fodder. Nothing more, nothing less. At least until they prove themselves.

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Conflict? I imagine it helps that the PCs are less likely to be on the receiving end of torture, being PCs and all.

@BCTheEntity

A good reason but as some people here can say, being a PC doesn't spare you of the slapstick. Masochists are really much more likely to enjoy it.

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...I kind of just assumed, honestly. My bad. But in that case, I'd love to have Maceroy join the Harvester on his mission. It's a good option.

@BCTheEntity

Well, that's the intention. You just have to get going on it, when you have time, probably after the next battle, since we'll likely be having it start in very short order.

[The 42nd Gecko]

@KoL A harpy once mildly irritated Ira, so they're about as good at their jobs as Alexi.

[TheWendil]

That being said, there's not even that many actual Harpy PCs here anyway.

[KoL]

@KoL A harpy once mildly irritated Ira, so they're about as good at their jobs as Alexi.

@The 42nd Gecko

Are we supposed to ridicule them even more? If so, I'm always willing for more tomato throwing.

PS: That same harpy got killed by Victoire less than 5 seconds later so that was not a really big achievement on his part, anyway.

[thewizardguy]

@KoL
Endian's initial statement of creating 'peace', even through Machina domination, resonated with many people. Bonesword's statement of respect was even better.

Besides, if someone joined her without believing in her cause they're a moron. It's not really a drawback that she'll crush allies who don't follow her cause, considering her cause is the only reason people are willing to follow her.

It was pretty obvious at the Dungeon that many people agreed with Helena's ideas. Getting people to agree with your ideas is what a good spokesperson does. She even got Henry to switch sides.

[BCTheEntity]

@KoL Ouuuuch. Throwing wicked shade at the bird people there. You're not exactly wrong for the most part, of course... maybe that's some additional reason for Maceroy to not go back with the rest of them, due to exactly the behaviour you just described.

@TheWindel True, which might also explain why they haven't done much so far. Maybe Maceroy can inspire more people to take up the banner of bird people, either for or against the Heavens.

[The 42nd Gecko]

@KoL Yes, I'm aware. Alexi also got killed 5 seconds after she mildly irritated Ira. So, I hold to my "about as good as Alexi" statement.

[KoL]

@KoL Yes, I'm aware. Alexi also got killed 5 seconds after she mildly irritated Ira. So, I hold to my "about as good as Alexi" statement.

@The 42nd Gecko

At least she landed a solid hit on her own. That dumb birb... well, not really.

[Silvan Haven]

Also, the social norms you mention are mostly an assumption on the players' side that never ever gets addressed IC because people quite never do anything on Celestia.

@KoL

I would very much like to work on changing this. If at all possible.

[The 42nd Gecko]

@Silvan Haven Good luck! I look forward to it.

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@TheWindel

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