[OOC] Pokemon: New World

[Typical]

@LuckyBlackCat I think it's best if we adopt everything from the site since differences between the site and the may serve to confuse users that are thinking about the hop. So yes, we will be going with the site's rules on ranking up. To make this easier, I will -- sometime in the near future -- set up a new thread so that my post will be the first post OOC (thus making the doc unnecessary). @Balthazar007 and I have discussed this a few times, and now that the site is becoming functional I think it may be proper to start living up to my roles here on the Guild.

As for the battle system, here is the official explanation:
http://pokemon-new-world.proboards.com/post/9

Excerpt from Site:

Battles: Friendly VS. Competitive VS. League: Friendly battles are done just for fun; there is nothing to loose, and you can even opt out of using Pokemon Showdown. Competitive battles happen when two trainers want to put their own trainer points and/or items on the line if they loose, and these must be done with Pokemon Showdown. League battles are sponsored by a certain type of Functional Organization called a Battle League; the leagues themselves determine what sort of prizes will be handed out, and you must also use Pokemon Showdown.

Pokemon Showdown: If you have never used Pokemon Showdown, be sure to familiarize yourself with the site before using it for this RP. For all Friendly and Competitive battles, we will be using the "Anything Goes" format. When building your Pokemon, be sure to use the following guidelines:

One, use the same level, gender, and shiny status as listed here in this RP.
Two, refer to bulbapedia when choosing your move sets; only use moves that the Pokemon can learn through leveling up (unless you have bought and used a TM within this RP).
Three, only use hold items that you have purchased within this RP.
Four, there are no restrictions on setting a Pokemon's happiness levels, ability, or stats spread.

Once you have recreated your team on Showdown, simply click find a user and search for your opponent (let your opponent know if your Showdown name differs from your user name on this RP). From there, everything works just like the handheld games; battle back and forth until you have a winner.

Dramatizing the Battle: After your battle concludes and all awards are dealt out accordingly, you are encouraged to reenact your battle. This serves three purposes. One, it makes things more interesting for readers that haven't seen the outcome yet. Two, you still rack up one CP per post you spend reenacting the battle. Three, all Pokemon that participated in the Showdown battle and reenactment battle will earn two extra bonus levels. Finally, when the reenactment is over, provide a link so that people can re-watch the showdown battle if they would like. As we said before, you may skip using Showdown all together and only use post-by-post battling to Dramatize the battle, IF your battle is only a "friendly". If you choose to not use Pokemon Showdown, we encourage the participants to kindly talk through the outcome of their battle via PMs (this way the illusion isn't ruined for observers).

League Battles: League Battles can vary from League to League. They can use different formats on Showdown besides the "Anything Goes" format. They can have further limitations such as typing, tier, or level restrictions. Be sure to read the Battle League section of the "Create an Organization" thread.

So Showdown is optional (as it is in Spiral) but mandatory for Gym battles. And contests are totally a thing now, and the end results can either be settled beforehand (since our "crowd" is so small) or by vote -- either or.

Hope that helped!

[LuckyBlackCat]

Yay! I might have a contest-related organisation soon... Yeah, I have a CP spending problem.

I'm glad we can use Showdown if we want, but don't have to for friendly battles - the old system makes a bigger variety of Pokemon usable (seriously, I love Kricketune's design, it's just a shame about the stats), and I don't think people here would abuse an honour system. Showdown, on the other hand, works better for competitive stuff.

Also, about the new rules, I take it Pokemon now evolve to tier 3 at lv15? Several of us already have lv10 evolved Pokemon, but will we have to wait until it happens with others (like Leisy's Piplup)?

[Balthazar007]

Yay! I might have a contest-related organisation soon... Yeah, I have a CP spending problem.

I'm glad we can use Showdown if we want, but don't have to for friendly battles - the old system makes a bigger variety of Pokemon usable (seriously, I love Kricketune's design, it's just a shame about the stats), and I don't think people here would abuse an honour system. Showdown, on the other hand, works better for competitive stuff.

Also, about the new rules, I take it Pokemon now evolve to tier 3 at lv15? Several of us already have lv10 evolved Pokemon, but will we have to wait until it happens with others (like Leisy's Piplup)?

@LuckyBlackCat

Evelotions now happen at their Pokemon specific levels. Check Bulbapedia or any online Pokedex to check these levels.

[LuckyBlackCat]

@Balthazar007 Ahh, ok. What about Pokemon who evolve through friendship, or with an evo stone?

[Balthazar007]

@Balthazar007 Ahh, ok. What about Pokemon who evolve through friendship, or with an evo stone?

@LuckyBlackCat

The following is a direct quote from the manual...

Evolution: All Pokemon evolve through leveling up in this RP. If they would normally evolve through special means only in the games, then they will evolve at the following levels:

Tier 4 to Tier 3: Evolve at level 15

Tier 4 to Tier 2: Evolve at level 30

Tier 3 to Tier 2: Evolve at level 45

Pokemon with Evolution Trees: If a Pokemon has a split in their evolutionary tree, you may choose which evolution they will transform. Provide some realism by having your environment or situation be the apparent reason behind the Pokemon's evolution result.

[Balthazar007]

Yay! I might have a contest-related organisation soon... Yeah, I have a CP spending problem.

I'm glad we can use Showdown if we want, but don't have to for friendly battles - the old system makes a bigger variety of Pokemon usable (seriously, I love Kricketune's design, it's just a shame about the stats), and I don't think people here would abuse an honour system. Showdown, on the other hand, works better for competitive stuff.

Also, about the new rules, I take it Pokemon now evolve to tier 3 at lv15? Several of us already have lv10 evolved Pokemon, but will we have to wait until it happens with others (like Leisy's Piplup)?

@LuckyBlackCat

Also, anyone that has already evolved a Pokemon before the release of the new rules may bump their Pokemon's level up to the level it would evolve at according to these new rules.

[LuckyBlackCat]

@Balthazar007 Ahh, ok. I read that bit wrong the first time round and got confused. Yeah, I'll bump up the Pokemon's levels (and try to have the other Pokemon catch up).

[Typical]

Alright sounds good. I'll just magically evolve all of Leisy's pokes then; the next time they come out from their Pokeball, they'll just be in their new form. (Hm I should have evolved them anyway huh... but wanted to save that evolution-writing-plot potential xD)

@toadropes@silver fox@zarkun Everyone get that up there^?

Also, just a friendly reminder, we're going by the site's rules now, so Pokemon can gain two levels per month -- one after sunrise and before sunset (9th-24th of current month) and one after sunset but before sunrise (24-9th of next month). Hope that helps everyone out some :)

[Zarkun]

Not seen anything. No computer right now due to a coffee spill.

[Typical]

@Zarkun :( sad to hear that! Hope you can get it fixed or replaced soon! I hate it when I'm resorted to using a phone to type.

[LuckyBlackCat]

@Zarkun Aw! So annoying when computers pack in. Hope you can get a new one soon.

[Typical]

@toadropes@silver fox@zarkun@luckyblackcat

Also, just a friendly reminder, please convert your Pokemons' level /before/ tacking on any additional levels gained after the rule switch. The calculations (in an effort to standardize them) should go like:

V1 Conversion

Pre-evolution/Basic Pokemon (Pokemon able to evolve twice):

(current level) / 10 * (first evolution level) = (new level value)

Pre-evolution/Basic Pokemon (Pokemon able to evolve once):

(evolution level) / 20 * (current level) = (new level value)

Stage 1 Pokemon (Pokemon evolved once and able to evolve once again):

(first evolution level) + [(second evolution level) - (first evolution level)] / 10 * (current level) = (new level value)

Pokemon unable to evolve:

(current level) * 3 = (new level value)

Round any and all decimals up to the next whole number (because why round down xD)

Hope that helps everyone out some :)

[Balthazar007]

@toadropes@silver fox@zarkun@luckyblackcat

Also, just a friendly reminder, please convert your Pokemons' level /before/ tacking on any additional levels gained after the rule switch. The calculations (in an effort to standardize them) should go like:

V1 Conversion

Pre-evolution/Basic Pokemon (Pokemon able to evolve twice):

(next evolution level) / 10 * (current level) = (new level value)

Pre-evolution/Basic Pokemon (Pokemon able to evolve once):

(evolution level) / 20 * (current level) = (new level value)

Stage 1 Pokemon (Pokemon evolved once and able to evolve once again):

(first evolution level) + [(second evolution level) - (first evolution level)] / 10 * (current level) = (new level value)

Pokemon unable to evolve:

(current level) * 3 = (new level value)

Round any and all decimals up to the next whole number (because why round down xD)

Hope that helps everyone out some :)

@Dusksong

This math is a little off.

Basic Pokemon that can evolve twice:
[(current level)÷10]×(first evolution level)

Basically, switch "current level" and "evolution level" in all of the formulas.

[Typical]

@Balthazar007

Er uh am I doing this correctly for Leisy's Fletchling, because it looks like it works like this right now:

[(current level)÷10]×(first evolution level)
Current Level = 13
First Evolution Level = 17
(13+10) * 17 = 23 * 17 = 391

... level 391?? Maybe you meant "+" where you typed "x?"

[ToadRopes]

@Dusksong
I'm going to hold off on responding until I get my calculations for level conversion done.

[Typical]

@ToadRopes Totally fine! I'm actually splitting Cil's little trip into two posts, so he'll finish up and be down at the station in the next :)

[Balthazar007]

@Balthazar007

Er uh am I doing this correctly for Leisy's Fletchling, because it looks like it works like this right now:

[(current level)÷10]×(first evolution level)
Current Level = 13
First Evolution Level = 17
(13+10) * 17 = 23 * 17 = 391

... level 391?? Maybe you meant "+" where you typed "x?"

@Dusksong

Unless there is a technical error, my post does say "÷"

[Typical]

@Balthazar007 Righhhht I just can't read xD (thought it was a "+" rather than a... you know what, i can't even find the division sign on my laptop, so I'm not gonna type it)

Alright, I'll edit the new formula into my previous post :)

//edit: I'm currently in the middle of a few exams so I'll save posting for the weekend! Sorry about the delay, all :/

// // edit 2: Balth, I just realized that your suggestion, while valid and good, doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things due to order of operations when it comes to multiplication and division, since both the (current level) and (next evolution level) values are getting multiplied in, whereas the (10) is getting divided in both cases.
Basically,

2/10*20 = 20/10*2 (since ten is the only number getting divided either way)

But, it does look nicer now and it's really kind of funny how slow I was to pick up on that math point so let's just laugh it off because I've already edited it in xD

//edit 3: ERK QUESTION: How do I calculate the level of Shanae's Pokemon who have been evolution shard-ed up?? Uh. Uhhhhh.

[Balthazar007]

//edit 3: ERK QUESTION: How do I calculate the level of Shanae's Pokemon who have been evolution shard-ed up?? Uh. Uhhhhh.

@Dusksong

Since the evolution shard ignores regular level requirements, we should discontinue the use of them. As far as Pokemon that have ALREADY been evolved early because of one, those Pokemon can be bumped up to the minimum level for their evolved form.

[LuckyBlackCat]

@Balthazar007 So, if we've got evolution shards in marts, can we replace them with other items?