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finally. now we just need to get a Lost Cause's CS and your other characters CS, and then we're done.
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WAIT, I also forgot about Nautilusmp
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Who's Checkerboard One and Two?
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Didn't think that far ahead. >.<

Also didn't think it made much sense to put an Ensign in the Number One slot.
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So we're going to be competing in a mock dogfight......and then everything's going to go to sh*t? are we fighting on the same side or against?
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You'll see. Also, see rule 13 for the whole 'same side' thing.
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inb4 aliens attack.
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Lost Cause said
Actually, think I will still use the Corsair for now, and stick her in a Hornet when I get the chance.


Woop-woop, Corsair-Five!

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The Royal Navy (as far as I know) can only use V/STOL aircraft on their current carriers due to their size (the Harrier, for example). It's the main reason they decided to go for the VTOL F-35 (lol) instead of the dedicated carrier model, I think.EDIT: And if you look on the wiki, the Royal Navy is indeed the main customer of the Magnificent Lightning (export model).


Hi, I live in Portsmouth, where the Royal Navy keeps it's aircraft carriers... or used to.
The current class of aircraft carrier used by the RN is the Invincible-Class. They weren't designed for the same specifications as the US or French aircraft carriers, and are primarily anti-submarine warfare platforms that can carry helicopters and STOVL aircraft.
They're due to be replaced with the Queen Elizabeth-Class which will be much larger, and could be configured for standard CATOBAR (Catapult Take Off, Barrier Assisted Recovery) or STOVL landings, but have been ordered for STOVL (I believe) pending the delivery of the JSF.
Because the new carriers are so huge, they're having to dredge Portsmouth Harbour to make it deeper, and rebuild a lot of the berthing facilities at the quaysides to accommodate the new carriers.

Currently, due to the decision to retire the ENTIRE Harrier fleet of both the RAF and the RN, along with two of the three carriers we had in service, our Navy now has no fixed-wing aviation to launch from it's carriers. Instead, they're being used as 'helicopter carriers', and have deployed Apaches during the intervention in Libya.

Who's Checkerboard One and Two?


To be fair, you didn't ask me who Angels 1-8 are, so does it matter? I figured we'd just been plucked out of our units for whatever reason. Otherwise, are we all going to have to come up with names for full squadrons, or play flight leaders? I'm confused now.
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Silverwind Blade said The current class of aircraft carrier used by the RN is the Invincible-Class.


Technically, they aren't even Aircraft Carriers. To get them past the Bureaucrats they were classified as "through-deck cruisers" instead.
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I still think retiring the entire Harrier fleet just like that was a bad decision.
Also, you wrote French aircraft carriers. As of right now, the Marine Nationale only has one aircraft carrier, the Charles de Gaulle, despite the official doctrine calling for two. The CDG is a mighty fine ship (perhaps the best in Western Europe), but I wonder if retiring/selling the Clémenceau class carriers was such a wise decision, considering how they were both adequate carriers. I hope the Foch (now called the Sao Paulo, in Brazilian service) gets used well, as it will always have a special place in my heart since my great uncle has loads of stories from when he served on it. I mean, the Clémenceaux were only built ten years before the Invincible classes, and the Illustrious is still used by the British... *grumble grumble, rant rant*


thingy about Angel 1-8 and Checkerboard 2-3

Pay it no mind, I just had a sudden rush of shit to the brain.
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you guys get REALLY upset when it comes to Ships....
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Technically, they aren't even Aircraft Carriers. To get them past the Bureaucrats they were classified as "through-deck cruisers" instead.


Well, exactly. Just goes to show what kind of strange beasts they are really, and how defence politics are just so weird and full of back-talk and double-speak to get things done.
That said, they are impressive to see coming into the harbour (or were, anyway, when there was more than one), and while they aren't massive juggernauts of airpower, they've still done a good job when called on.

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I still think retiring the entire Harrier fleet just like that was a bad decision.Also, you wrote French aircraft carrier. As of right now, the Marine Nationale only has one aircraft carrier, the Charles de Gaulle, despite the official doctrine calling for two. The CDG is a mighty fine ship (perhaps the best in Western Europe), but I wonder if retiring/selling the Clémenceau class carriers was such a wise decision, considering how they were both adequate carriers. I hope the Foch (now called the Sao Paulo, in Brazilian service) gets used well, as it will always have a special place in my heart since my great uncle has loads of stories from when he served on it. I mean, the Clémenceaux were only built ten years before the Invincible classes, and the Illustrious is still used by the British... *grumble grumble, rant rant*


Couldn't agree more about the Harriers, and apparently the general opinion of the public is the same, as is that of the soldiers who'd served with the Harriers. It was a hugely unpopular decision, but one everyone was force to live with, sadly. At least they went to the USMC, rather than just to be scrapped or rot away somewhere. It's a shame that they'll be used for parts, but at least they're doing some good.

I didn't realise that about the French carrier, so apologies for the mistake there. I've always through the CDG was impressive as well.
I hope the Sao Paolo, as she's now named, is well looked after too. I've read she's been equipped with Skyhawks, which I approve of as I love the A-4. I hope that the Brazilian Navy gets a lot of use out of her, and that she does a lot of good in her role there, as she did with the Marine Nationale.

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you guys get REALLY upset when it comes to Ships....

Ships cost a lot of money, and ship building and maintenance create masses of jobs for people - it can be pretty important to some regions economies, let alone for the political message an aircraft-carrying ship turn up on someone's doorstep can send. The UK and France also still have a lot of overseas dependencies as well, and have both historically had strong naval traditions (frequently in fighting each other xD)

Also, y'know. Ships are pretty cool.
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I think there's eight or nine in the Boneyard that get stripped for parts.

EDIT: I can't count. There's fifty GR7s and GR9s in the Boneyard, along with eight T12s.
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I feel like I'm the only one here who doesn't research that much into foreign naval stuff.......
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Well, good old Foch's the Brazilian flagship now, she better be well used. Shame they just scrapped the Clémenceau, they could have gotten at least a good thirty years of her with a bit of work. Still, what's done is done, and the Marine seems to have plans to build a new carrier soon, so I'm excited to see where they go with that. And while we're still on the subject of new and old military hardware, apparently the Japanese are planning to have the first flight of their fifth generation ATD-X Shinshin this year. Very excited to see that, considering my bizarre obsession with Japanese military hardware.

In other news, first IC post will be up tomorrow. Regarding sign ups, I'll be accepting up until 10 or so characters and I'll let them in between missions.

EDIT: The French navy isn't foreign to me, it's my country's navy. The British one is another story though, all I've heard about it is what I've heard from this one YouTube game commentator who was in it for 22 years and has a metric tonne of stories. From what I can tell, the Royal Navy is a strange beast, at least in my opinion. My French opinion, so there's probably quite a bit of bias there. It's in my genes, I tell you!
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I'm naturally curious how someone from a different country knows English, yet again I have 2 friends from Russia and a friend from Japan.....so, nevermind....

I guess I better not make any french jokes......if I do, feel free to retort with a american joke!
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American jokes aren't my thing, since I'm half-American to begin with. It's a long story. Though if you make a joke about the French surrendering, I will be forced to take action.
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I feel like I'm the only one here who doesn't research that much into foreign naval stuff.......


I have a very curious nature and an insatiable desire to learn things. Especially about military organizations, and their hardware and how they use it. I do a lot of writing for fun, as well as running RPG's, and I also read a lot of military thrillers as well, and if something is mentioned, then I tend to go away and look it up afterward for my own interest to find out more about it. Plus I'm probably a lot older than most if not all of you, so I've had a lot of time to work on that knowledge as well.

The Royal Navy - if you've not guessed - isn't foreign to me, as the French Navy isn't foreign to Rafale, as I'm English. Living where I do, there's a lot of people who are or have been in the Navy, and I've also been aboard a couple of ships on open days, as well as taking the harbour tour a couple of times as well as visiting the museum here in Portsmouth. So you pick up things here and there. But that all pales alongside simply having the desire to read and research about things.
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