[OOC] Naruto: Years of Winter - an Alternate Universe

[Matsuri]

Just dropping in to say I'm in on this RP. Will get the character sheet up soon.

[Asura]

I am confused as to why all clans must have a Mangekyo-equivalent. Perhaps I should petition for black fire bones. :p

[Hillan]

I am confused as to why all clans must have a Mangekyo-equivalent. Perhaps I should petition for black fire bones. :p

@Asura

Stop that.

[Asura]

<Snipped quote by Asura>

Stop that.

@Hillan

You're right. I should focus on space-time calcium instead.

[Dion]

@Asura I prefer the rinne-bone.

[Asura]

@Asura I prefer the rinne-bone.

@Buddha

Marrow Modo is where it's at.

[LokiLeo789]

@LokiLeo789 I'm conflicted because this sounds very similar to space-time jutsu and we generally do not accept space-time jutsu because it just create plotholes everywhere. There are exceptions, but this sounds like it's just insane reflex times.

IIRC, Sharingan already has this, too. The eyes move so fast that everything appears in slow motion. Different concept, same premise.

Furthermore, I can see some hole here in the sense that this sounds like some sort of 'activated' ability. The catch is that byakugan doesn't have, say, 'jutsu' that have to do with the dojutsu (unlike the sharingan, which have a lot of jutsu). A byakugan ability is, when activated, always active. Any application of jutsu afterwards is purely done by the user, and not the dojutsu.

As a result, that would mean that when the user activates their byakugan, they would more or less.. always see in slow motion.

That sounds very annoying to me.

I'm not sure. I'll sleep a night on it, but you can bother Hillan for his opinion.

@Buddha

Bother Hillan, I'll bother him alright.

Anywho, it's not that I want to throw the Sharingan on everything, just throwing out ideas, although I guess that is not an 'idea' at this point. Seeing how the Sharingan takes ALL the damn seeing abilities from high speed vision, to seeing chakra as colors, maybe the next step for the Hyuga would be to "feel" chakra. And go beyond that by being able to manipulate it as if it were their own. Kinda like an external sage mode. As Sages use the natural chakra around them and take it in, Hyuga's could just manipulate whatever chakra around them at the highest level.

I may just scrap the idea and leave it as it is.

[Hillan]

I'm just gonna throw out the idea that; that if during the harsh winter, the Byakugan learned how to see Thermal signatures.

I know, it's a little crazy.

[Asura]

Heat-seeking femur launchers! Genius!

[Bishop]

@Asura Can see some seconds in the future maybe? Only applicable on a single body at a time. Where would that kunai be 3 seconds later? Where will he hit 3 seconds from now? He sees the future body as a mirage/misty shadow see through so it doesn't constrict his vision but is just there for him to see additionally.

[Dion]

@Hillan As I pointed out on Skype, this would be useless as you can already "see through obstacles" and see chakra signatures. The only time this would be useful would be when fighting a robot (Asura path, or Savato's recycled Asura path shinobi).

But we have no plans of adding either of these.

@LokiLeo789 I have always been of the opinion that the Byakugan would always win against a regular sharingan. Statistically, only a very small percentage (say 5%) will ever unlock a sharingan. For Hyuga, this is 100%.

Of those 5% only 0.001% will ever unlock a MS (most Uchiha might not even progress past two tomoe).

Byakugan? Only hard training is required.

Byakugan will statistically always win in war.

Now one on one, I argue that even then the Byakugan is stronger. Seeing tenketsu and SEALING them is extremely powerful. I'm not sure why everyone thinks that Uchiha are so super strong. It only takes a mediocre Hyuga to take down a regular Uchiha.

I honestly don't think you need additions at this point. But I'm open to your ideas.

[Hillan]

@Hillan As I pointed out on Skype, this would be useless as you can already "see through obstacles" and see chakra signatures. The only time this would be useful would be when fighting a robot (Asura path, or Savato's recycled Asura path shinobi).

But we have no plans of adding either of these.

@Buddha

Unless it's used to find heat sources deep underground. or like, anywhere, really. Really just gives them an extra layer of vision.

Alternatively, being able to see air currents or the like would be useful.

[Dion]

@Hillan At that point you're entering such niche concepts that I'd say "just make it a custom kekkei genkai" though.

[Asura]

If a trait associated with a Kekkei Genkai is not associated with a jutsu in canon, but appears to be an 'at-will' ability, should it be counted as an innate trait or made into a technique?

[McFazzer]

This is going to be a very silly question I feel. Are all eye techniques kekkei genkai? I don't recall other eye techniques outside of that, apart form maybe senju modes if that counts. I wanted to create an eye technique with the theory of an insects compound eyes behind it, dividing the users vision into a smaller and smaller hexagonal grid with co-ordinates allowing greater accuracy.

I have been basing my character's family on the dragonfly (because why not, right?), but I felt that an eye kekkei genkai is somewhat cliche and was going to have extreme body control being it instead, hence the query :P

EDIT: Also the eyes seems to be a kind of... worse sharingan if they're a kekkei genkai

[Asura]

This is going to be a very silly question I feel. Are all eye techniques kekkei genkai? I don't recall other eye techniques outside of that, apart form maybe senju modes if that counts. I wanted to create an eye technique with the theory of an insects compound eyes behind it, dividing the users vision into a smaller and smaller hexagonal grid with co-ordinates allowing greater accuracy.

I have been basing my character's family on the dragonfly (because why not, right?), but I felt that an eye kekkei genkai is somewhat cliche and was going to have extreme body control being it instead, hence the query :P

EDIT: Also the eyes seems to be a kind of... worse sharingan if they're a kekkei genkai

@McFazzer

naruto.wikia.com/wiki/D%C5%8Djutsu

[LokiLeo789]

@Hillan As I pointed out on Skype, this would be useless as you can already "see through obstacles" and see chakra signatures. The only time this would be useful would be when fighting a robot (Asura path, or Savato's recycled Asura path shinobi).

But we have no plans of adding either of these.

@LokiLeo789 I have always been of the opinion that the Byakugan would always win against a regular sharingan. Statistically, only a very small percentage (say 5%) will ever unlock a sharingan. For Hyuga, this is 100%.

Of those 5% only 0.001% will ever unlock a MS (most Uchiha might not even progress past two tomoe).

Byakugan? Only hard training is required.

Byakugan will statistically always win in war.

Now one on one, I argue that even then the Byakugan is stronger. Seeing tenketsu and SEALING them is extremely powerful. I'm not sure why everyone thinks that Uchiha are so super strong. It only takes a mediocre Hyuga to take down a regular Uchiha.

I honestly don't think you need additions at this point. But I'm open to your ideas.

@Buddha

I whole heartedly agree with you on that point. I think it was in the PTS series that it was said that the Hyuga could dispel any Chakra formations. Probably why we don't see alot of Hyuga before and after the Uchia clan fall....and they where made fucking moon people. I'm done, I'll leave it at that. I'll just focus on jutsu (that don't just throw elements into it).

[Demous]

@Buddha You make a good point with that but the thing is that uchiha are naturally gifted with ninjutsu and genjutsu. They usually also have fire or lightning natures. Both of which are good long range which the Hyuga aren't. Esentially it's a battle of who the better of the two actually is. Like much of naruto should have been. Not the mage anime/manga it became.

[j8cob]

@Buddha You make a good point with that but the thing is that uchiha are naturally gifted with ninjutsu and genjutsu. They usually also have fire or lightning natures. Both of which are good long range which the Hyuga aren't. Esentially it's a battle of who the better of the two actually is. Like much of naruto should have been. Not the mage anime/manga it became.

@Demous

The Hyuuga have a literal "fuck you you can't hit me with anything" technique. I don't think range is an issue.

[LokiLeo789]

@Buddha You make a good point with that but the thing is that uchiha are naturally gifted with ninjutsu and genjutsu. They usually also have fire or lightning natures. Both of which are good long range which the Hyuga aren't. Esentially it's a battle of who the better of the two actually is. Like much of naruto should have been. Not the mage anime/manga it became.

@Demous

The Hyuga also have Chakra natures, they just chose not to use them. Not to mention the fact that they can be easily blocked. In fact, a Hyuga like Neji could take a chunk out of the Sususan'o and dispel Amatrasu with the Gentle Fist. Think the writer chose not to explore that interaction.