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"When you play the Game of Thrones, you win or you die. There is no middle ground." - Queen Cersei Lannister

This roleplay is based off of the novel series A Song of Ice and Fire, and the HBO tv show Game of Thrones, as well as all related properties. It is story-driven, with an emphasis on world-building, character-development, and meaningful choices where the actions of the players will shape the world. This roleplay is set 25 years after the end of the series, and is the first of many iterations of this thread wherein all iterations of the game will influence the plot and the state of the nation and noble families. In this game winning can mean honor and glory, while losing will bring ruin or death.





















(Post your sheets for consideration in the OOC, and once accepted, in the CS tab)

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@Masterkeun I can see you're probably not finished with the sheet, since there seems to be a lot of room for further detail but there's a few minor points I want to bring up.

1) Since this draws heavily from established canon, you have to take into account House Frey's genealogy. There were a looooooot of Frey heirs. Sons, and grandsons, and greatgrandsons, and bastards, and grandbastards and so on. Edwyn and Black Walder were the main contenders and there was probably a a lot of others, and a lot of Freys probably died, but it's next to impossible that there wouldn't have been a male heir to House Frey. So you'd kinda have to come up with a specific lineage with the Freys you want to play. Also in canon, I do not believe there are any swamps outside of the Neck mentioned. The only swamp nearby the Riverlands would be where the crannogmen live, and they incidentally have a feud with the Freys. If they Freys had to live there... well let's just say I don't see the Freys living in a swamp. Alternatively, they could still hold the Twins but they could have had a lot of hostages taken and those complicit in the Red Wedding executed. Basically what happened to the Greyjoys when they rebelled.

2) It's only in very specific circumstances that a woman would lead a House. Dorne is the exception to the rule, but all other notable female rulers we have in the series are either widows of the Lord or the last of their name. Or they live in environs where people are a little more accepting of female rulers, like the women of Bear Island or Asha Greyjoy with her sailors. It is extremely unlikely and implausible that Mable wouldn't have any eligible male relatives who would take control. In most of Westeros, females only inherit when all other legitimate male heirs are not an option. With the information I have, Mable's twin brother would be the rightful ruler of House Frey. But again that's assuming all of the canon Freys just all died, which is unlikely. I also find it unlikely that the Freys especially would tolerate a woman as leader. I think your original concept of having Mable apart from the leadership, as a sellsword might work better.

3) The Mountain Clans are seen as barbarians by the whole realm. Tyrion getting a deal with them was pretty much a once-in-a-lifetime event. Walder Frey certainly could not and probably would not have made the same kind of arrangement. If you need a leader of the Frey military, it'd be better to use an actual Frey since they're so many of them and the House Sheets are for family member PCs. Servants and vassals would be NPCs.

4) There needs to be a lot more detail. What are the trueborn sons up to? Why would Jon refuse to help the Freys loyal to the crown? Why would Mable still be loyal to the crown if Jon didn't help her? All in all, there needs to be quite a bit more explicit details and exploration of motivation and personality.

I understand that it's probably a work in progress, that's just my thoughts on what I see so far. This is not meant to discourage you at all.

@Nightwing95 Great sheet, you are accepted. My one minor nitpick is that I don't think non-rulers get the roman numerals after their names. IIRC that only happens if someone becomes ruler and their namesake was also a ruler.

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I've been stalking this awhile and it was recommended to me also. I'll most probably join, though I won't be able to make a character sheet by tonight. Hopefully by tomorrow or Friday ^_^

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Hey, mind if I use House Mudd?
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@Greenie Hop right in! I look forward to seeing what you got.

@supertinyking Yeah sure, any idea what direction you want to take the House in?
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@MrDidact The only reason I used the Roman numeral was to differentiate him from the canon Rhaegar, but if you want it removed then I am okay with that.
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Question. What are the capabilities of pyromancers in this era? We get a bit of a look at what they potentially might be able to do in the books, but this is your rodeo.
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@EnterTheHero Hmm that depends. Do you mean the Pyromancers in the Alchemist's Guild, the Red Priests, or just general pyromancers like that one Qartheen sorcerer?
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@MrDidact I have a question, what kind of character images are alright? (Like real life, drawn, anime, etc)
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@Greenie Real life and drawn are fine. For this particular setting I think anime style might be ill-fitting somewhat.
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@Greenie Real life and drawn are fine. For this particular setting I think anime style might be ill-fitting somewhat.


Gotcha, thanks! ^^
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@MrDidactokay I made updates that hopefully help :)
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@MrDidact Let's go all three. I'm leaning toward Alchemists' Guild, but I want to keep my options open.
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Hey I haven't posted here yet, just saying hi to everybody and staking a claim for House Lannister.

As I discussed with Didact I'll happily give up the claim of anybody else is set on playing the whole house.
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Hiya. I am thoroughly interested in this, and will aspire to representing a house. Possibly a new/OC one, but I may end up selecting a pre-existing previously low-profile house.
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@Enzayne Hey Welcome! Glad to have you aboard, I'm up sulking around the forums right now so if you have any questions feel free to message me or post on here, I'll help you out to the best of my ability without overstepping my bounds :P
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@Masterkeun I think you're definitely on the right track, but there's still a bit to go until your sheet is completely ready. I like the additional details, but I'm not sure why members of other families are in the family sheet. That should only really happen if someone is an in-law. For example Jon is not named Targaryen, but he is the family patriarch and is a vital part of the family, just as how Catelyn Tully is a vital part of House Stark as the matriarch. But you wouldn't consider the Stark kids to be Tullys even though they have a Tully mother. So these more collateral relatives can be part of the story but it should be more closely involved Freys who are focused on in the House Sheets, especially if they have the family name. You can also leave it more open-ended so that there aren't quite so few Freys left, in case anyone wants to jump in and possibly play a Frey. And you can use the lesser Freys as NPCs for the important ones, Walder basically sired an army of people and that army grew exponentially (and was probably cut down a lot too) so no reason you can't have the House Leader's squire be a Frey for example. You also need more details for the Frey PCs you include in the House Sheet. Malkor and Jem Rivers seem important, but lack a lot of detail for example.

But all in all, you're definitely on the right track and it's good to see your sheet shaping up so well.
@Dredigan Do you have any additional comments or input?

@EnterTheHero So the Alchemist Pyromancers wouldn't be able to shoot flames out of their hands, but with the resurgence of magic, wildfire is easier to make and even more powerful and dangerous than it was before. The Pyromancer's probably won't make as much since Dragons are back, but the Alchemist's Guild could still do all kinds of semi-mystical chemistry awesomeness. Basically like Alchemy in any fantasy story, except probably without the turning iron into gold stuff. A Pyromancer could come up with all kind of flame-based chemical weapons, like possibly an oil they can slide on a sword to make it burst into flames or maybe some kind of reduced-potency wildfire grenade. You can get very creative with this.

Red Priests, they will have all the same abilities they have in the books, which are a lot but also seem to depend on the specific Priest's talents. Shoot fire balls, heal, see visions of the future, increased life-span, illusion, communicate through fire, there's a lot of stuff a Red Priest can potentially do. I don't think the return of magic would change much except perhaps make their abilities easier to do and maybe rev up the potency a bit.

Common Sorcerers who are Pyromancers, I kind of imagine them being like Firebenders crossed with Green Lanterns since they seem to be able to make fire "constructs" and can probably manipulate fire like any fantasy pyromancer can to burn and scorch. They seem to be mostly limited to the East however.

Again though magic-using characters will be scrutinized so that there won't be too many of them, and they are at least a little bit balanced. Additionally, IIRC using spells in the story took a lot of energy to do, and that would still be the case. I think for the RP right now, either Alchemists or Red Priests would make the most sense in terms of story and plot relevance and Alchemists would be more common than Red Priests.

@Enzayne Thanks, for your interest. There are a lot of less prominent Houses, so it might be easier to use canon than come up with something out of scratch but it's totally up to you. Me and Dredigan are at your disposal if you have any questions or want any input from us.

Did you have a particular region in mind for your low-profile House?

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I guess I’ve been converted. Blame @Dredigan.
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