[OOC] The Sky And The Earth II - A Fairy Tail Adventure Reborn

[Lmpkio]

@Crimson Raven Golem is where she should be I think as well.

[Sho Minazuki]

Back in the day Vega was the only edgelord with Golem being a masculine guild. Now Golem houses dark mages.

Hmmmm.

[pkken]

This is gonna be very very entertaining, just chilling in the lobby.

Let alone our first group job.

@Savo

I feel as though Damien and Cyril's strong attraction towards beautiful women will establish a great friendship or fierce rivalry.

[Lord Sawsaw2]

Whew its done. Up for review.

So a word about my character here. Lots of her backstory is tied up with a different character of mine in another RP, so there are some answers to her questions there.

Lmpkio might know. hehe~

As for which guild, I’m not really sure. She could go either way. After reading it, which do you suggest?

Anyway, I feel like a took a few risks with these sheet. I’m open to any suggestions, anything you feel like needs changed.

So, without further adieu

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@Crimson Raven

There are some serious changes that need to happen in the magic section of this character before it gets approved, she's incredibly overtuned at present, and either needs to scale back the utility by a large degree, or focus on it instead.

Starting at the top, with the problematic sections highlighted in red:

A powerful form of shadow magic, this magic turns the caster‘s very body into woven shadow. As long as she had magic and is conscious, physical attacks will pass right through her without harm. ((Noooooooo, no chance of this, or any long term effect of a similar nature without huge drawbacks. Karthus style ethereal casting is pretty much entirely off the table without a very obvious and very exploitable weakness)) The caster can teleport short and long distances by passing through shadows ((through a continuous shadow, or between patches of shadows?)), but the end destination tends to be slightly random and magic cost increases exponentially with distance. The caster can also pull things into their shadow and store them, similar to requip magic ((What's the limit to this? What happens to the items if you don't have a shadow?)). Both their shadow and body can be molded into nearly any shape and made substantial or insubstantial at will ((See previous statement)). The power of this magic is in its free-form use, allowing for a large degree of adaptability. As a Shadow magic, it also includes elements of Darkness magic (her’s is a dull slate color) and Shade magic, the caster can utilize some of both.

Shadow Body - More of a passive ability that turns her body into shadow, rendering physical attacks useless. It also allows her to change her body into any form she wishes. When in affect, her body becomes solid black and looses any humanistic features.

- See previous comments.

Erebus’ Shadow - A stronger Puppet that usually takes the form of a massive serpent. A resilient and dangerous foe.

- Shadow Puppets is fine, but this one needs to be better defined. How big? How long does it last? Is it linked to her in any way?

- For Fulminating Darkness, do the puppets do the casting, or does she turn them into shadow to attack with? Where does the magic come from?

The rest of your spells are fine, though could do with similar work as noted above on being more specific about how they work.

Apologies if this comes off as a harsh critique, but Lilith would be essentially unstoppable with the current cast. Only Vega would have even the slightest chance of actually beating her in a fight, and even then...

[Crimson Raven]

@Lord Sawsaw2

The body was the main gimmick...

You are familar with Juvia right? Its a shadow version of her water body.

I can’t really say much else about it, because canon doesn’t elaborate much on it.

But its clear that its not total invulnerability, magic can still harm her

[Lord Sawsaw2]

@Lord Sawsaw2

The body was the main gimmick...

You are familar with Juvia right? Its a shadow version of her water body.

@Crimson Raven

Water can be interacted with though, which is what made her reasonably balanced. Shadows not so much, unless she's practically deathly allergic to light producing spells or something during the form.

Edit: It should be said that I would be exceedingly unlikely to pass Juvia as a character at all for a thread like this unless I was absolutely sure it wouldn't be abused. It works in the show because it all has to work out in the end for the plot to continue, but short of heavy-handing things as the Mod, I could do absolutely nothing to a Juvia character that they couldn't simply either ignore or flee from, without constantly harrowing them by throwing specifically targeted enemies at them.

My point is that what is 'balanced' in the Fairy Tail manga/anime does not translate to a balanced character for the purposes of PvP or running a story.

[Sho Minazuki]

What if sources of light affected it's effectiveness?

For example in a dark room, it's 100% effective, but anywhere out in broad daylight or even under moon or heavy starlight is enough to interfere (max 40% full moon, max 20% starlight on new moon), for example. With it virtually impossible under high noon directly below the sun or source of light.

This way he'll be able to use it, but he can't avoid everything completely without moving in normal circumstances.

If it needs more weaknesses, probably limit what he can do while phasing and choose between recovery time (delay after exiting the form) or startup time (delay before entering form).

[Crimson Raven]

What if sources of light affected it's effectiveness?

For example in a dark room, it's 100% effective, but anywhere out in broad daylight or even under moon or heavy starlight is enough to interfere (max 40% full moon, max 20% starlight on new moon), for example. With it virtually impossible under high noon directly below the sun or source of light.

This way he'll be able to use it, but he can't avoid everything completely without moving in normal circumstances.

If it needs more weaknesses, probably limit what he can do while phasing and choose between recovery time (delay after exiting the form) or startup time (delay before entering form).

@Sho Minazuki

Sure, I like that idea. A scaling curve.

@Lord Sawsaw2 what do you think?

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((What's the limit to this? What happens to the items if you don't have a shadow?)

A fair question

I imagine that the upper limit might be about the size of a medium sized person with a large pack. She might be able to fit a larger object, if the object in question is a solid piece.

[Lord Sawsaw2]

What if sources of light affected it's effectiveness?

For example in a dark room, it's 100% effective, but anywhere out in broad daylight or even under moon or heavy starlight is enough to interfere (max 40% full moon, max 20% starlight on new moon), for example. With it virtually impossible under high noon directly below the sun or source of light.

This way he'll be able to use it, but he can't avoid everything completely without moving in normal circumstances.

If it needs more weaknesses, probably limit what he can do while phasing and choose between recovery time (delay after exiting the form) or startup time (delay before entering form).

@Sho Minazuki

This could work with some deep restructuring, but the issue is that Lilith isn't bound by natural sources of light, since she can simply create her own dark spaces to fight in where she fights at 100% efficiency all the time anyway; anyone without a ready source of light goes back to having no chance of winning in a fight.

Time limits, form transformation effects, and in-form weaknesses are the only real ways to go towards making it balanced.

[Sho Minazuki]

Well not everyone without a ready source of light. If it's magic of any kind, Vega can cancel it out with brute force.

But yeah that'd a problem.

How about... It doesn't make them phase out completely? Meaning they'll be 50% solid, but it has the better application of being able to jump from shadow to shadow, sort of like from Aragami. You can be struck by most anything with 50% effectiveness and have high mobility in that form, although a clean hit will throw you out of it.

[Lord Sawsaw2]

Well not everyone without a ready source of light. If it's magic of any kind, Vega can cancel it out with brute force.

But yeah that'd a problem.

How about... It doesn't make them phase out completely? Meaning they'll be 50% solid, but it has the better application of being able to jump from shadow to shadow, sort of like from Aragami. You can be struck by most anything with 50% effectiveness and have high mobility in that form, although a clean hit will throw you out of it.

@Sho Minazuki

Sure, Vega could cut the magic apart, if darkness wasn't the absence of something, rather than necessarily its presence. If the spell just works by keeping light from entering its casting radius, Vega can't really cut away the magic without finding the edge of the bubble and attacking it there. And even then it's not really a corporeal thing that can be attacked...

Not that it would matter to Vega in the first place, since he'd be able to attack the body directly anyway since it's just made up of magic.

[Crimson Raven]

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This could work with some deep restructuring, but the issue is that Lilith isn't bound by natural sources of light, since she can simply create her own dark spaces to fight in where she fights at 100% efficiency all the time anyway; anyone without a ready source of light goes back to having no chance of winning in a fight.

Time limits, form transformation effects, and in-form weaknesses are the only real ways to go towards making it balanced.

@Lord Sawsaw2

I see your point.

Time limit is easy, and someting I thought of but forgot to mention (and I see where my wording is misleading) She can’t stay insubstantial for more than a few seconds at a time after that, she becomes vulnerable, so continuous attacks (like say, a sword in her, or a drawn out blast) will eventually harm her, and can be fatal if she is forced to reform on them. (Ouch)

Following that train of thought, I can make it so once a part of her turns into shadow, that past is unable to do so again for 3-4 seconds (longer maybe?). A clever opponent might see this and take advantage, or a fast opponent might accidentally find this.

Another thing is that turning into shadow takes a modest amount of magic, which over time will really stack up, meaning that if she takes too many attacks, that alone could leave her nearly drained. Notice that without her magic, she is not that dangerous.

This is an inherent flaw, as any fight she might have would require her to burn through massive amouts of magic quickly. I don’t have any specific numbers in mind, but you can be sure that this will be reflected in how I write her.

[Lord Sawsaw2]

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I see your point.

Time limit is easy, and someting I thought of but forgot to mention (and I see where my wording is misleading) She can’t stay insubstantial for more than a few seconds at a time after that, she becomes vulnerable, so continuous attacks (like say, a sword in her, or a drawn out blast) will eventually harm her, and can be fatal if she is forced to reform on them. (Ouch)

Following that train of thought, I can make it so once a part of her turns into shadow, that past is unable to do so again for 3-4 seconds (longer maybe?). A clever opponent might see this and take advantage, or a fast opponent might accidentally find this.

Another thing is that turning into shadow takes a modest amount of magic, which over time will really stack up, meaning that if she takes too many attacks, that alone could leave her nearly drained. Notice that without her magic, she is not that dangerous.

This is an inherent flaw, as any fight she might have would require her to burn through massive amouts of magic quickly. I don’t have any specific numbers in mind, but you can be sure that this will be reflected in how I write her.

@Crimson Raven

This is 100% what I was going to end up angling for anyway, and is pretty much word for word what I would have wanted anyway.

Rewrite the set with those modifications for me if you would, and I'll see if there are any other changes that need to be made. Please don't forget the other points I raised in my first reply post.

[Crimson Raven]

I haven’t forgotten lol

Erebus’ Shadow - A stronger Puppet that usually takes the form of a massive serpent. A resilient and dangerous foe.

- Shadow Puppets is fine, but this one needs to be better defined. How big? How long does it last? Is it linked to her in any way?

- For Fulminating Darkness, do the puppets do the casting, or does she turn them into shadow to attack with? Where does the magic come from?

@Lord Sawsaw2

I should have been more detailed, sorry.

1. Erebus’ Shadow - lets make this one linked to her shadow (so she can only make one, and it cannot move far from her) Size, I’d say it varies with light, anywhere from twice the height of a person and about as big around as one, to four times that. It has very limited intelligence, but she can give it orders. However it’s difficult to control and requires constant attention to maintain, so no or few little puppets while it is active and she is limited to less powerful or complex spells. It will last about five minutes, and takes that long before she can use it again. Ten minutes if it gets destroyed somehow. As for durability, it can take most hits well, but a powerful spell will one hit KO.

Edit: No, wait, lets nix the time limit. That makes it impractical. It just requires a flow of magic to sustain

What this will do, is it turns it into a defensive spell, the serpent can protect her by interposing itself between attacks and her body, cover her back, while being able to strike out at opponents with a bite attack.

2. I imagined FD like Jose’s Dead Wave, except for her it’s obviously not as powerful, and it has her own spin on it. Notability, it would require two hands and longer to cast.

With this spell, the cost is two-fold, one she has to create Shadow Puppets to use, then two she has to use more magic to gather them into the attack.

[Lord Sawsaw2]

I haven’t forgotten lol

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I should have been more detailed, sorry.

1. Erebus’ Shadow - lets make this one linked to her shadow (so she can only make one, and it cannot move far from her) Size, I’d say it varies with light, anywhere from twice the height of a person and about as big around as one, to four times that. It has very limited intelligence, but she can give it orders. However it’s difficult to control and requires constant attention to maintain, so no or few little puppets while it is active and she is limited to less powerful or complex spells. It will last about five minutes, and takes that long before she can use it again. Ten minutes if it gets destroyed somehow. As for durability, it can take most hits well, but a powerful spell will one hit KO.

Edit: No, wait, lets nix the time limit. That makes it impractical. It just requires a flow of magic to sustain

What this will do, is it turns it into a defensive spell, the serpent can protect her by interposing itself between attacks and her body, cover her back, while being able to strike out at opponents with a bite attack.

2. I imagined FD like Jose’s Dead Wave, except for her it’s obviously not as powerful, and it has her own spin on it. Notability, it would require two hands and longer to cast.

With this spell, the cost is two-fold, one she has to create Shadow Puppets to use, then two she has to use more magic to gather them into the attack.

@Crimson Raven

Both of these are fine

[Sho Minazuki]

Things that make you say "christ how edgy".

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[Lord Sawsaw2]

Things that make you say "christ how edgy".

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@Sho Minazuki

This image hits me, so hard, makes me say 'oh my lord'.

*Illedrith holds up a mirror* "Can you see how ridiculous you look right now? Did you even choose this outfit yourself, or is it just what the inside of your head looks like?"

[Sho Minazuki]

You're just jealous because you don't get

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[Crimson Raven]

@Lord Sawsaw2

Changes made, please look over it once more.

Kage

“The Brighter the Flame...

...the Darker the Shadow it casts.”

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Basic Info

Name::

Magus Lilith Astra

Nickname/Alias::

Shadow of Light, Kage

Gender:: Female

Age:: ~72 (looks 19 ish)

Date of Birth:: December 1, X697

Guild:: Golem’s Arm

Mark Color; Location:: Black; Left side of neck

Rank:: A

Personal Information

Personality::

The first thing most people notice about Kage right away is that, contrasing the mysterious persona she had going, she is a bit of an odd duck. Her mannerisms and actions often run contrary to common ‘normal’ behavior. She is also deeply superstitious, which goes some ways toward explaining some of her odd behavior. One thing that is abundantly clear is that she loves coffee with an unholy glee, and drinks it by the potful.

She is very independently minded and impatient, leading to difficulties working with her. Her failure to communicate doesn’t help much either. She is a woman of few words. Not out of shyness, she just doesn’t speak much. Instead she uses gestures and body language to covey her thoughts, if she bothers to do so at all.

But beneath these oddities and superstitions is a practical nature. She wastes little time in daydreaming or idleness, but prefers to do something useful.

The second thing to notice about her is her odd, dry but acutely acerbic sense of humour. Usually directed at someone. She somehow packs an entire punchline in just a significant glance.

Kage occasionally displays a child-like side that belays her actual age. This, coupled with a boundless curiosity and impusive behavior, makes her a certifiable magnet for trouble. And once in trouble, she make it hard to hard to get her out of it, due to her monumental stubbornness that puts mules to shame. Once she sets her mind to something, she will let nothing stop her.

She is slow to trust people, and generally pessimistic, but to those that are able to win her trust, they earn her undying loyalty. She would travel the world over, go through hell and back again for these people.

Family is, after all, very important.

Though pessimistic of people, she is amiable to strangers and people in general, though she has an odd way of showing it.

And yet there is something deep inside. A smoldering core of seething anger. Its well hidden, but combat brings it out. When fighting, she is terrifyingly ferocious and savage. Mercy is not a concept she is familiar with, and neither is holding back.

Appearance::

No matter the weather, Kage wears a heavy hooded navy blue cloak and a white mask. Primarily because she thinks it makes her look cool and mysterious but also because it shields her from the sun and light in general, while providing plenty of shadow for her magic to work with.

Beneath the mask and cloak...she looks like an ordinary young woman in her late teens. Her hair is shoulder length and an ebony black. Her skin is pale from a lack of sunlight, and her face could be described as pretty. Her most striking feature is her intense stormy grey eyes that almost look silver. She is of medium stature and has the kind of body that makes men drool, though she doesn’t flaunt it, in face she is a little self-conscious about her body.

History::

Kage’s life has been one long search, and yet she searches still. For the man she could call father and the mother she only barely remembers. For a place where she feels she belongs.

Her Father disappeared before she was born.

Her Mother disappeared but a few years later.

That left little-few-year-old her on the steps of an orphanage somewhere. The people there cared little about her, and the kids treated her as a freak due to her magic coming in, even at such a young age.

She ran away as soon as she was ten.

Place to place she ran, growing in age and power. She bounced from magic guild to magic guild, using her burgeoning magic talents to scrape together a living. Sometimes she was kicked out of a guild for not complying with their rules, sometimes she left on her own because she felt like she didn’t fit in. Whatever the reason, she never stayed anywhere for very long. She was a precocious and lucky child, she escaped many attempts to take advantage of her, bad people who wanted her for their own ends, along with several slavery attempts and successes. She grew up tough and she grew up mean. She had to to for survive. But also lonely and despondent, wondering exactly what purpose she had in life.

She isn’t sure at what point her running turned into a search. Gradually she decided that she was going to find her parents, no matter what. Maybe then she could make sense of her life. She knew that they could be dead, but that didn’t deter her. She would find their bodies if she had to.

Years passed in this way, and Kage steadily began to realize something about herself. She didn’t age like most people. She seemed to have hit a platue and never got any older. She watched in something like horror as other people aged and died around her, always leaving her in the end.

This further strengthened her resolve to find her parents and ask them who—or what—she was.

But it seemed like an impossible task. No one seemed to know who Ferrin or Asheila were, or even reconized their names. The only lead she ever got was when she was approached by an old woman one day.

“Child,” Said she. “You have the look of one who is looking for something.”

Kage just tilted her head at the old lady and said nothing. The hag’s milky white eyes stared out into he distance.

“A father, yes. Oh! And a mother too. A very unique pair those two.” She cackled. The woman then reached into a pocket and drew out a palm-sized stone. She extended a shaky hand toward Kage, offing the rock. “Take this,” She creaked. “And wait for him.”

Nonplussed, Kage accepted the stone and made a questioning gesture. The woman pat her on the arm, then turned and hobbled away on a cane. Try as she might, Kage couldn’t get another word out of the old woman. Eventually, she lost her in the crowd. Later, when asked a townsperson informed her that the old lady claimed to be a seer, but she was in reality just plain crazy. Nothing she ever said had come true.

But Kage couldn’t let go of that hope.

Now her search has lead her to the rivel guilds Harpy’s Wing and Golem’s Hand...

Magic

Magic Name::
Umbra magic
Description::
A powerful form of shadow magic, this magic turns the caster‘s very body into woven shadow. As long as she had magic and is conscious, physical attacks will pass right through her without harm. The caster can teleport short and long distances by passing through shadows, but the end destination tends to be slightly random and magic cost increases exponentially with distance. The caster can also pull things into their shadow and store them, similar to requip magic. Both their shadow and body can be molded into nearly any shape and made substantial or insubstantial at will. The power of this magic is in its free-form use, allowing for a large degree of adaptability. As a Shadow magic, it also includes elements of Darkness magic (her’s is a dull slate color) and Shade magic, the caster can utilize some of both.

Known Spells::

Shadow Body - More of a passive ability that turns her body into shadow, rendering physical attacks useless. It also allows her to change her body into any form she wishes. When in affect, her body becomes solid black and looses any humanistic features.

However, this ability has some massive drawbacks. She can’t stay insubstantial for more than a few seconds at a time after that, she becomes vulnerable, so continuous attacks (like say, a sword in her, or a drawn out blast) will eventually harm her, and can be fatal if she is forced to reform on them. Once a part of her turns into shadow, that past is unable to do so again for 3-4 seconds.

Lastly, turning into shadow takes a modest amount of magic, which over time will really stack up, meaning that if she takes too many attacks, that alone could leave her nearly drained.

Shadow Puppets - Creates a number of figures that resemble twisted shadows with glowing eyes. These figures can move and fly at high speeds and are are difficult to hit with attacks but will usually disperse upon a successful hit. However, they can hide in inanimate objects that cast sufficient shadow. This provides them with a layer of protection and they can manipulate the object at will.

Erebus’ Shadow - A stronger Puppet that usually takes the form of a massive serpent. Its size varies with light, anywhere from twice the height of a person and about as big around as one, to four times that. It has very limited intelligence, but she can give it orders. However it’s difficult to control and requires constant attention to maintain, so no or few little puppets while it is active and she is limited to less powerful or complex spells. It requires a flow of magic to sustain.

What this will do, is it turns it into a defensive spell, the serpent can protect her by interposing itself between attacks and her body, cover her back, while being able to strike out at opponents with a bite attack.

Fulminating Darkness - An attack that uses several puppets to launch a wave of shadow. Moderately powerful, but require two hands and several seconds to cast. With this spell, the cost is two-fold, one she has to create Shadow Puppets to use, then two she has to use more magic to gather them into the attack.

Empty Night - Shrouds an area in thick, inky darkness. Only those with excellent night vision or an alternate from of sight can see through it. Quickly dispelled by light magic.

Shadow Slip - Allows the caster to use a shadow to travel anywhere that is shrouded in shadow. However, its a tricky and unpredictable spell. Accuracy is difficult, and the magic required is high then increases exponentially with distance traveled.

Ruin - A fast but weak spell that fires an orb of shadow that detonates in an explosion of dark energy. Requires very little magic and can be cast rapidly.

Erebus’s Wrath - A gathering of dark energy around the caster that explodes outward in a massive storm. A fast and powerful spell that requires a lot of magic.

Erebus’ Gate - A powerful wide-ranging spell that briefly covers a circular area in shadow before unleashing dark energy over the area. Requires some time to cast.

Secret Technique: Erebus’ Eclipse -

”From darkness this world came
And to darkness it shall return.
Bring forth from Chaos
The darkness that consumes all light.”

Kage’s ace-in-the hole and her most powerful known spell. However, she uses a imperfect version that carries only a fraction of its original power. When casting, the light in an area dims greatly as invisible magic gathers. When cast, A pillar of solid darkness rises to the sky, surrounded by rings of pulsing dark energy. Inside the pillar, all light is consumed and the area is bathed in a continuous attack of ruinous dark power.

The trick of this spell is that the brighter the area inside and outside the pillar, the more light that is consumed and the stronger the spell. Even light magic is devoured. A single cast of this spell will completely drain Kage of magic. It also takes some time to prepare and cast.

Other

Combat ability - Outside of her magic...very little to speak of. She relies heavily on her power to fight, but has had very little training in physical or magic conbat. Almost everything she knows is self taught, through books, by watching others, or trial by fire.

Magical Aptitude - She could very well be considered a genius when it comes to magic. Both of her parents had incredible magical talent, which was passed on to her. Her very blood sings with magic.

Race - Kage is not completely human. That is evidently clear by her unnaturally long lifespan. But what she is and how she came to be that way...

Well, those answers are just some of the many things she searches for.

Odd Mannerisms - Kage has many odd habits she has developed, like a tendency to stand in a person’s shadow, regardless of personal space, or to knock twice on a door frame when leaving a room. Ect.

Loves Music

Great at Charades

Likes making shadow puppets (not the spell)

Recovering Coffee rehab (loves coffee) Also brews the greatest pot of coffee you will ever taste.

Relatives::

Missing Father and Mother; She doesn’t even know what her father looks like, and only barely remembers her mother. Her only clue to her father’s wereabouts are from an old and possibility mad woman who clamed to be a seer. The seer gaver her a rock and told her to “Wait for him.”

Which wasn’t very helpful.

None the less, she is hell-bent determined to find them.

Posseions::

A Mask and hooded Cloak

traveling equipment

Books for when she get bored

A massive mug, dedicated to coffee.

Several pounds of coffee beans, with a grinder and pot.

The rock the seer gave her. Other then a strange smoothness, it appears to be an ordinary, worthless stone. But Kage can’t bear to get rid of it.

Theme Song::
W.I.P

[Squad 404]

I read the relationship thoughts of those who are updated. Quite interesting to see how some people think of Alexandria. A mutual dislike between Alexandria and Vega is also going to be a thing, from what I've seen.