[OOC] Hyrule's Civil War (Zelda RP)

[Product]

I forgot to mention this in the post, but the door is locked from your side, so you'll just have to turn a deadbolt. The guard locked it to keep whatever attacked him away. Sloppy writing on my end.

[Zeroth]

I forgot to mention this in the post, but the door is locked from your side, so you'll just have to turn a deadbolt. The guard locked it to keep whatever attacked him away. Sloppy writing on my end.

@Product

Well Drifter spouts cryptic bullshit all the time so he's obviously the type to overthink it and completely miss that like a dumbass. XD

[ArmorPlated]

@Vertigo

I was probably paying too much attention to the stuff going on in the well, the problems of joining late I guess. I should probably edit that, huh?

[Perascamin]

Now that Onime and I have posted, it would be appropriate for us to wait on the others, right?

[ArmorPlated]

Previous post fix'd, I'll catch up and see about posting again.

also, woo bursts of activity!

Edit, because I always think of something more I want to say or ask: How common is Light magic among the casters of Hyrule?

Edit 2: Anyone know what the primary religion of Hyrule would even be called?

[vietmyke]

@ArmorPlated if Roa wants to be a healer, I can convert Phanna to a more damagey sort of mage, seeing as that role is now open.

"Is that a bad guy? Ok!" *blast blast blast blast*

[Zeroth]

Edit, because I always think of something more I want to say or ask: How common is Light magic among the casters of Hyrule?

Edit 2: Anyone know what the primary religion of Hyrule would even be called?

@ArmorPlated

In the games we really only seem to see Zelda use it, as far as I know, outside of individual items or temples that use it as a theme. In fact I want to say a few times (Minish Cap, possibly some others) "Light Magic" or "Light Force" is a unique ability possessed by the Royal Bloodline. But OoT established so many of the series' staples, and in that one it was really more the domain of Time that was the Royal Family's schtick and the Light Sage was just some dude who could turn into an owl. Maybe he was part of the Royal Family or something though.

Magic in general in Zelda actually isn't common, though. Outside of Link, and outside of the particular items that do particular things, how many actual wizards on the level of Gandalf or even Harry Potter do we see? Major villains, like Agahnim and Veran and Vaati, are the only ones who come to my mind.

As for the religion, I guess it would depend on whether this setting includes Goddess Hylia up above the usual Triforce group. If Hylia is included I would think it should be called Hylianism, whereas if it's only the three maybe it'd be called something like Trinitarianism or something.

I assume most of this would just be up to @Product's personal taste though.

[ArmorPlated]

@vietmyke Roa is set up to be on the Defensive side of things, but that doesn't mean she needs the primary healer role. She could probably still be a Red-Mage style caster. Whatever she is, solo-heals can be dangerous business, because if the healer is KO'd how can they heal themselves, let alone anyone else?

On the flip side, if you had an original idea for Phana, but felt the need to fill the healer role, feel free to switch. I can do either.

@Zeroth

No no, I mean like conjuring a ball of light like a Wizard, not sealing Gannon in a can for the fifteenth time. I should have clarified that.

as for Hylia vs the Three Goddesses, Product and I talked about that while I was working out Roa's CS. It seemed like both were benevolent enough for both Hylia and the Three to coexist in the same religion.

Also, "Hylianism" seems way too attached to the Hylian race, and would probably exclude someone like Roa.

[Zeroth]

@ArmorPlated
Is it a matter of their coexistence? I was under the impression that Hylia was like, the one deity above all, and then Din, Nayru, and Farore were created by and subservient to her. Just in some games she's either so ancient or so unconnected to events that only the three are ever mentioned. Then again I haven't played Skyward Sword which I think is the game in which most of that got hammered out.

As for Hylianism, that could potentially go back to the arguments from way back over different translations of the games--does the word "Hylian" refer only to the race of elf-like people with pointy ears, or does it refer to every citizen of the Kingdom of Hyrule regardless of race? Are a Hylian and a Human the same thing? Is there a difference between Hylian and Hyrulean? Are the people of Ordon village a different race since they have round ears? So on and so forth.

[ArmorPlated]

@Zeroth I also have not played Skyward Sword, though I always kinda got the feeling that Hylia was a lesser God, and that Din, Farore and Nayru created the world and then left? OoT definitely put them in the Creation Myth, which usually means they're the big fish.

Also, I'm pretty sure Hyrulian is the nationality, Hylian the elf species. Ordonians are probably a race of Hylians, but I could be wrong.

I'm going to go look at the wiki, people have thought about this before, for sure.

Edit: ok, so Wiki says that Hylia was entrusted with the Triforce after the Golden Goddesses left, and that after she gave up her godhood to use the Triforce, her soul continually reincarnates as Princess Zelda. Also she made the Master Sword.

Also, Ordonian is a nationality, as Ordon apparently isn't part of Hyrule?

[vietmyke]

@ArmorPlated Phanna was originally designed as a healer. But, I always love me some Light Domain Clerics, because why heal when you can zap your enemies with lasers and heal?

[Product]

Now that Onime and I have posted, it would be appropriate for us to wait on the others, right?

@Perascamin

Yea. Noxxis hasn't been online in a couple of days, so we should give until Friday before continuing. Since he's been volunteered for the rear guard we could probably justify him not getting many words in, and Z2010Deadmeat said he would be away until Sunday. Lesina, Roa and Drifter could probably exchange a few words tho.

[ArmorPlated]

I think I remember someone's status saying something about there being some kind of holiday, and running into the first death as a group can be an important character moment.

My vote is to delay till the weekend for the rest of the team. The only thing I can see still happening would be whatever Nadijah was planning on doing before joining the group.

[Vertigo]

I've got the company's summer party today - working from 8 to 1, and then party from 1 to midnight, so I won't be able to post until Saturday. But yeah, since Nadijah's post won't affect the rest of the group, I'll get that up early on Sat!

[Vertigo]

Going to be posting in a minute.

Will probably wait until the rest of the group has posted and established that they are indeed together before throwing Nadijah into the mix, though. Easier for the ones who haven't yet posted.

Edit: Posted. She wants to do the stabby stab. She doesn't realize doing the stabby stab is probably difficult.

[ArmorPlated]

Not just difficult, but counter-productive.

"Hey, I know peace is good and everything, but I want to assassinate the king immediately after a peace treaty! Surely this will lead our people into prosperity and not more bloodshed and suffering!"

She's a real hothead, isn't she?

[Vertigo]

Well, the biggest issue would be in her getting caught - there'd be less issue if she did succeed. Yeah, a lot of people would suspect the Gerudo even without any solid proof - but with the kind dead, it would be the queen's word that mattered at that point. If the king's forces openly disobeyed the queen/her regent aka the proper ruler in order to war with the Gerudo, welp, looks more like a civil war in the making.

For Nadi, any chaos Hyrule'd be plunged into after the king's death is a better scenario than the king going and "killing her people by the thousands."

Although to be fair, she hasn't really thought it that far. Her thoughts ended at "king wants to kill my people = fuck the king off with his head." She lived her entire life in the war, she doesn't have the most stable grip on this concept of "peace". |D''

But yeah, since she would fail, that would be prime fuel for another war, for sure. "Look, a Gerudo tried to murder the king!" But she hasn't exactly thought of the possibility of failure, so that's irrelevant to her thought process. To her, her plan makes sense.

Tl;dr: a real hothead she is, for sure.

[ArmorPlated]

The King is dragging his entire army to the city. the chances of her killing the king and making it away without being identified is virtually nil

"Hyrule in chaos" also assumes the Queen holds total power, wouldn't have her position damaged by Nadijah's actions, and that Queen Zelda herself wouldn't condone restarting the war were an assassin to kill the King.

[Vertigo]

I know her chances are nil, from both ic and ooc stand point ("oh you killed the king? k guess the rp is over") and I very much plan to find an excuse for her not to even attempt it. But I'm not her, and I explicitly stated that she hasn't thought of failure as an option.

Like I said, to her, from her perspective, the plan makes sense.

Also, if Zelda actually started a war against the people who killed a king that she specifically requested help against I'd... have some serious questions.

[ArmorPlated]

Right, and I guess she wouldn't be totally connected to the world. She was raised in war, and now the world is suddenly "at peace" and she probably has yet to learn how to interact with people "normally".

At that last bit hough, If a monarch wants to stay a monarch, they can't just do whatever they want. If Queen Zelda were to just let the Gerudo off her husband without retaliation, they'd think she put the hit on him, or that she's a coward of a leader that will let the Gerudo walk all over Hyrule.

There's probably a reason she hasn't summoned her own army to keep the king out, or asked for his head instead of saving her heir.