[OOC] Rogue Continuum [CLOSED PENDING REBOOT]

[Master Bruce]

Scrapped Wolverine as my secondary. Updated with a new, fully completed secondary.

[Master Bruce]

To those who have expressed interest thus far, and any who come along next, what alternate worlds or concepts would you like to see? Whether it just be a character you like/think is underutilized and would like to see be the focus of a reality the group visits, or a story arc from the comics you felt didn't end properly and would want to see revisited, or something from our real-world history you think would create a unique reality had it gone a different way, etc.

While I have dozens of alternate realities already plotted out, I am interested and open to including others suggested here.

@Retired

I think a world that truly, utterly utilized a One Universe approach where the characters had to be drastically different and changed by one another's existence would be interesting. Imagine if Kal-El's rocket landed to Earth at a time when HYDRA was still functioning, or if Thor's hammer were found by Barry Allen instead of Donald Blake. Or if Spider-Man were created by a spider who was an avatar of The Red, making him less of an enhanced human and more of a monster in the vein of Swamp Thing. A world full of fun stuff like that, where the dynamics are completely shifted for everyone.

Another possibility is a DC or Marvel future where the grandchildren of each hero inherit the mantles, like a giant legacy Earth in the vein of MC2. There's a ton of rife potential there if you set it far enough ahead for most of the heroes to be dead or out of action.

Another idea I had is a DC Universe where each hero is a supernatural creature. So Superman would be a horrible monstrosity from space, Batman would be a vampire, Wonder Woman would be an undead Themyiscarian witch, The Flash would be an interdimensional demon, and so on...

None of them are wildly original ideas, but I like simple concept alterations as much as I like massive universe shattering ideas.

[Retired]

<Snipped quote by Retired>

I think a world that truly, utterly utilized a One Universe approach where the characters had to be drastically different and changed by one another's existence would be interesting. Imagine if Kal-El's rocket landed to Earth at a time when HYDRA was still functioning, or if Thor's hammer were found by Barry Allen instead of Donald Blake. Or if Spider-Man were created by a spider who was an avatar of The Red, making him less of an enhanced human and more of a monster in the vein of Swamp Thing. A world full of fun stuff like that, where the dynamics are completely shifted for everyone.

Another possibility is a DC or Marvel future where the grandchildren of each hero inherit the mantles, like a giant legacy Earth in the vein of MC2. There's a ton of rife potential there if you set it far enough ahead for most of the heroes to be dead or out of action.

Another idea I had is a DC Universe where each hero is a supernatural creature. So Superman would be a horrible monstrosity from space, Batman would be a vampire, Wonder Woman would be an undead Themyiscarian witch, The Flash would be an interdimensional demon, and so on...

None of them are wildly original ideas, but I like simple concept alterations as much as I like massive universe shattering ideas.

@Master Bruce

You may enjoy one or two worlds that I have planned, then.

[Zoey Boey]

@Retired what about a universe where a One Universe full of heroes got defeated by some kind of like, weird brainslug hivemind and now everyone in the universe is part of a hivemind is being controlled by one being to achieve some kind of nefarious or mysterious goal

[mickilennial]

I'll probably be finalizing my concepts Saturday.

[mattmanganon]

Character Proposal: Michael Morbius

| Character Identity | Michael Morbius

| Age | 37

| Character Differences |
Morbius, in this version, creates his serum in an attempt to save his wife. He is actually married to Rachel Van Helsing. He is also able to absorb a single, random power from those he bites. So, biting someone like Superman wouldnt necessarily make him into a Kryptonian Vampire, but grant him perhaps Hurricane Breath or Heat Vision. ((CREATORS NOTE: I actually want to leave this to be a GM decision as to what powers he gets, because i think it'll add a nice random element to character building))

Morbius has also worked his way up to being King of all Vampires, with dominion over the Vampires of his universe, a power stolen from Dracula when he bit and drained his blood. Michael also now wears a suit of red armour similar to Dracula's as well as having taken his magic sword. Michael looks very much the part of a king of all vampires.

List of Powers taken from his home universe

Victor Friese: Cold Resistance (Can survive subzero temperatures with few ill effects
Dracula: Dominion over Vampires. (All vampires instinctively follow all orders that he gives.)
Captain Britain: Flight (He can fly at close to the speed of sound... Unfortunately, he isn't able to actually get close to that speed. Brian can fly that fast due to his force-field protecting him. Due to Michael lacking this force field, he can get to a maximum speed of maybe 50MPH before he starts having problems with his breathing and physical strain of wind resistance.)

| Brief World Background |
Michael comes from an Amalgam universe, where some of the Marvel and DC characters exist together, but not everyone. So, whereas Superman, Wonder Woman, Iron Man and Spider-Man exist, Batman, Green Lantern, Hulk and Captain America do not. In his universe, Vampires work very similarly to Buffy. If a vampire bites and drains all of the blood from your body, then your soul is sealed away inside and leaves a special tracing spell that calls a minor demonic spirit to possess and puppet your flesh.

Gotham exists, despite a lack of Batman, with Victor Friese becoming a hero to combat the villains that plague the streets, he originally took a little cut from all of the robberies that he stopped, until Tony Stark approached him and offered to help fund his research into saving Nora, in return for working with him in the creation of new suits.

The founding members of the Avengers are; Superman (Clark Kent), Wonder Woman (Diana Prince), Iron Man (Tony Stark) Captain Britain (Brian Braddock) Thor (Odinson) and The Blue Beetle (Dan Garrett)

In this world, the Infinity War just happened very similarly to the comic, Thanos created the Gauntlet and with a flick of his wrist, all of the universes Infinity Stones fly to him and fot themselves into the Gauntlet. Then, to win favour with his love, Lady Death, he snaps his fingers and half of the universe turns to dust in the wind. This happens at the exact moment of the biggest day of the Avengers career. The day of the wedding of Wonder Woman and Thor Odinson, the coming together of the houses of Zeus and Odin. Or at least, it would have been, had Odin, Superman, Zeus and half of the wedding guests hadn't turned to dust just as Diana had started walking down the aisle.

The remaining Avengers, along with the League of Monsters and just about every other superpowered being that the Earth can muster, headed for Titan, with the grieving Wonder Woman leading the charge.

| Brief Character Background |
Michael was born in Stuttgart, Germany. his father, a philosopher and mother a Doctor, he took more after his mother, growing up fascinated in the ways of science, he was constantly at odds with his father, who had always wanted his son to become a philosopher, this animosity only grew when, at the age of 13, he lost his mother to a car accident. His father and he grew very distant before he went to medical school and studied biology and biogenetics. His life seemed to be going in a good direction, that was until his first encounter with her...

Walking home from a lecture one night, he was attacked by a Vampire that beat him half to death, before attempting to turn him, before the creature could bite him, however, he was found by Rachel Van Helsing, the Vampire hunter, who slew the creature. After she saved him, he became enamoured with her and followed her, offering his assistance as a researcher. He and Rachel eventually fell in love and were married. Although Michael wasn't much of a fighter, he developed multiple new, Anti-Vampire bio-weapons for Rachel to use in her fights. He also got to meet other monsterous entities from across the world, some friendly, some not so much. One that they did find was a friendly Vampire in Los Angeles, as well as, in Egypt, a team of American Commando's made up of monsters. Eventually, Rachel fell pregnant and it seemed as though their lives were almost complete... Then one day, Rachel fell ill. She lost the baby, before soon losing her ability to breathe properly. She was diagnosed with "McGregor's Syndrome" which was thought completely incurable, but, after a bit of research, his findings brought him to someone online by the name of "HOI"

Michael and HOI corresponded for quite some time as they worked together on a cure and made some good headway, they even developed a stop-gap for stage one patients, such as Rachel, where they could put her into a medically induced coma and keep her under indefinitely. However, their working together was cut short when HOI stopped connecting and then, the funds that they were sharing in a bank account were frozen. Going underground in Greece, Michael continued to hunt vampires until he came to the realization that, perhaps, they could be the answer. Vampires contained incredible healing powers, he had never even heard of one getting sick. He managed to capture one and began to work on adapting the Vampiric genetics to synthesize a cure. But, without HOI's help, he quickly ran into walls. Specifically, he ran out of samples from Nora's advanced stage 3 and was forced to run tests on Vamprie Bats that he infected. Finally, he managed to synthesize what he believed to be a mutagen that would give humans the healing factor of Vampires, with no other choice, his first test subject was himself. What happened next, he had no idea, but when he came to, he was surrounded by a dead biker gang and he had mutated...

Getting home, he looked in the mirror to find himself horrifically mutated and with a taste for blood... Not wanting to accept what he was, a full-blooded vampire, he grabbed a silver stake and drove it through his own heart. He waited and waited, but death didn't come for him. He threw himself into the sun, but again, death was no-where to be seen. After some quick tests, he found that he wasn't a vampire in the typical sense. He was... Something else... He tried to correspond with several other scientists that he knew, but nobody was willing to return his messages. Those that were quickly stopped replying as soon as he brought the word "Vampire" into the conversation. HOI finally came back online and he arranged to finally meet HOI.

HOI revealed himself to be noneother than Gothams protector, the man they called Mr Freeze. Victor performed several tests on him, but found that Michael had mutated severely and had gained the ability to absorb the powers of whoever he drank the blood of, but the tradeoff was that if he stopped drinking blood for more than a few days, then he would quickly die as his blood consumed itself.

After working with Victor and several others that he knew, he managed to stabilise the serum. To the point where it would save Rachel. Unfortunately, during his travels, he had managed to draw the ire of the king of Vampires, Count Dracula. Dracula got to Rachel first and made him an offer "Join me or I kill Rachel." Morbius, not wishing to see Rachel die, agreed. This turned out to be a ruse on Draculas part, as he didn't want a slave that would turn on him as soon as he got the chance. He wanted a partner that would join him willingly. The only way Michael would do that would be if he lost all connection to Humanity, so Draculas path was clear. Dracula bit Rachel, turning her into a Vampire. Although, the minor demon that possessed her wasnt one of Dracula's thrall, but another ancient spirit that despised Dracula. She attacked Dracula and drove him off, but escaped, trying to hunt down the Vampire King.

Michael, on the other hand, went to gather his allies, before marching on Dracula's castle, with the help of his friends, he managed to defeat Dracula and bit him, drinking his blood and overthrowing him as King of all Vampires. As his first act, he decreed that Dracula would be banished and that blindly attacking humans was outlawed to all vampires. That they would try to consume animal blood when possible.

Michael, with his allies, created a new team "The League of Monsters" and their first duty was to try and find Rachel. They found Rachel just in time for an event to rock the world. Unbeknownst to anyone, the mad titan, Thanos, had gathered the Infinity Stones, the building blocks to the universe and had wiped out half of all life in an attempt to win favor with Lady Death herself. Michael found Rachel just in time to watch her fade to dust before his very eyes. Inconsolable angry, Morbius contacted the Avengers to find out what had happened, he joined their team that went to take down Thanos. The Vampire King fought side-by-side with the greatest warriors known to humanity, many fell before the Titan, but eventually, they were victorious, yanking the gauntlet from his hand and then... Nothing...

Time for some MFin' Confusion and Delay

| Character Identity | Sir Topham Hatt A.K.A. The Controller

| Age | 25

| Character Differences |
Pretty much everything. In this universe, Topham isnt a rich business Mogel. Instead, he is a young, brash hero with a magical hat and a need to do what is right in the world. His Hat contains the spirits of several ancient entities that possess machines and turn them into warriors for justice. He can only channel one of these warriors at a time, though. These spirits are:

*Thomas: A chirpy young spirit with a justice-lust comparable to Tophams. He comes with his gun and sword, named "Annie and Clarabel"
*Edward: the most ancient of the spirits, he is wise beyond all others and possesses the ability to turn into animal-like structures.
*Henry: A large and powerful pyromantic spirit with an immense dislike if rain and Elephants.
*Gordon: The largest, most powerful and fastest of all of the spirits, he uses his strength and speed to overcome everything.
*Bill and Ben: Double Trouble. These twins are the only ones that can come out as multiples, they split the machine into multiple smaller copies of themselves, getting smaller and weaker with every split and overwhelm through numbers. They also contain the power to teleport short distances
*Boco: A strong and intelligent spirit, he can harness magics to overwhelm his opponents.
*Diesel: Powerful, but overconfident and evil. Diesel is a last resort for Topham.

| Brief World Background |
So, in this continuity, Sodor is a cyberpunk dystopian future where everything is controlled by the evil "Lenenbaum, Barston & Sandford Corporate Realties" who have destroyed Tophams fathers compamy, the North Western Railways. NWR is now just a subsidiary of LB&SCR. LB&SCR now use their advances technologies to create sentient machines by trapping spirits of an ancient civilisation in these machines. Topham uses his own spirits and magic hat to fight them.

| Brief Character Background |
Born to as the son of Duke Hatt of Sodor, who was the head of the North Western Railway. Growing up, Topham was always fascinated by the railways and would regularly ride all day with the friendly guards and gasp in awe at the beautiful cities and countryside. Tophams life of happiness came to an end at the outbreak of the Third Great War, his father was called up as the government signed an "All adults must serve" order. His father would not return.

Luckily, the war never got as far as Sodor, but what did was LB&SCR, the mega corporation that had grabbed power for themselves during the war. By the end of the war, with most of the land owners of Sodor dead, LB&SCR was able to buy pretty much the entire island for pennies. Topham was thrown out of their mansion with his mother, luckily, the people loyal to his father were able to keep them from living on the streets and Topham spent the next 15 years watching Sodor getting turned from a rustic paradise to a cyberpunk hellhole.

It was at the age of 15 that Topham got involved with the North Western gang, one of the biker gangs that roamed Sodors skyscraper filled streets looking for trouble and fighting the LB&SCR security forces. He was caught during one of their raids and thrown into prison for 3 years. When he was finally released, on the way home, he saw an old man getting brutally beaten by security forces. After driving them off, the old man gave him a hat as payment, saying that if he put it on, that he would have the power to defeat LB&SCR. After putting it on, he was met by an ancient spirit that greeted him as a friend. His name was ancient and unpronouncable. Topham decided to call him Thomas. Thomas explained that LB&SCR had been using his brothers and sisters to help them conquer everything. That working together, they could free the trapped spirits. Thomas explained that the spirits could possess machines and transform them to Suit their needs and that the spirits used by LB&SCR were corrupted, and that the hat could purify them.

Topham and Thomas went on an underground war against LB&SCR and have freed many spirits from their control. Topham was about to stage his final assault on LB&SCR HQ when he was abducted by some mysterious forces.

Well, here goes nothing.

[Supermaxx]

Enter the Hero, stage right:

Character Proposal

| Name |

Iron Patriot // Norman Osborn

| Age |

Early 40s

| Character Differences |

In this timeline Norman Osborn is no longer a villain, though calling him a hero might be overselling it. Still as narcissistic, condescending and ruthless as ever, he's humanity's unlikeliest savior. A great deal of his recent life has been dedicated to fighting for humanity's survival, not just because his interests happen to align with the side of light (namely not wanting to die in an alien-induced genocide), but because he sees that fight as a road toward personal redemption. The war with the Skrulls is Norman's chance to prove he's no longer the monster he once was, that he's conquered the Goblin, and that he deserves to see his son again. All the while he continues to struggle with his psychosis in a silent battle for his mind and his soul.

| Brief World Background |

Earth wasn't in the least bit prepared when the Skrulls came for Earth. Unlike in the mainline continuity, Tony Stark never learns of the Secret Invasion, and the Skrulls are able to systematically pick apart every major threat before they're discovered. The Avengers, the Fantastic Four, the x-Men, and even SHIELD all fall, the world none the wiser to what's taken place. It was only after victory was assured that the aliens launched an all-out attack on Earth.

Yet the swift triumph they anticipated never came, for in their darkest hour humanity still managed to resist- led not by its traditional heroes but instead by dictators, conquerors, terrorists and villains of all other stripes. Pariahs once shunned by the world for their misdeeds rose up in earnest to defend it. Among the highest echelons of the resistance sat men and women like Doctor Doom, Emma Frost, and Namor, united in common purpose. They were the strongest mankind had left to lead them, and that ensured their demise. The Skrulls managed to pick off the leadership one by one, carving out a power vacuum within the command structure.

A vacuum that Norman Osborn stepped in to fill.

The war was a long, grueling affair, with neither side willing to give even an inch of ground. It was the bloodiest conflict the world had ever seen, and it raged on for more than a decade before Osborn was able to strike the critical blow that would turn the tide in earth's favor: he punched through the Skrull flagship and put a bullet through their queen. It didn't end the fight by any measure, but it marked the turning point that allowed a united earth to crush the invasion for good.

With the Skrulls pushed back into space, the surviving members of humanity began to reorganize themselves to prepare for further conflict- they knew well that the invasion of Earth was only the start of things. Osborn was, naturally, the best choice to lead the effort. He established HAMMER as a militarized opposite to SHIELD with himself as its director. Construction of a space fleet began, headed by former scientists and engineers from AIM, with the hope of striking back at the Skrulls for all that they had done.

| Brief Character Background |

Norman Osborn gained his wealth selling prototype weaponry to the American military. His company, Oscorp, was once a significant competitor to the likes of Stark Industries, only for the entire industry to be flipped on its head the day the 'Iron Man'- quickly revealed to be Tony Stark himself- appeared on the public stage. Nothing Oscorp was developing at the time could ever hope to live up to the armor, and every country on the planet was looking to replicate it. Osborn was far too proud to stoop to the level of many of his competitors that were racing to make and sell copycat suits en-masse, and he stuck religiously to his current project: attempting to re-discover the Super Soldier formula that created Captain America.

But progress was painfully slow, and USFDA refused to allow human trials to begin until the numerous side effects appearing in the animal testing phase were addressed. Norman flushed more and more resources into the development of the drug, diverting them from the company's more profitable ventures in the hopes of making a breakthrough. It didn't work, the serum remained unstable, and Oscorp was dragged under by his obsession. In a final, desperate bid to prove he wasn't a failure, Osborn injected himself with the incomplete formula, and the psychopathic killer known as the Green Goblin was born. That personality dominated Norman for eight, long years of his life, compelling him to terrorize the people of New York City and do battle with local hero Spider-Man.

This 'second personality' wrought chaos across the city, killing, maiming and destroying whoever or whatever he pleased, showing an intense obsession with proving its superiority over everyone else- most especially Spider-Man. It wasn't until Norman's son, Harry, was caught in the crossfire that Osborn was able to wrestle some semblance of control back. He surrendered himself to SHIELD, beginning down the arduous path of rehabilitation with the hope of one day being allowed to see his son again.

It became immediately clear to his doctors that the chemical mixture Norman had injected himself with was altering the state of his mind in a profound way, causing symptoms of Dissociative Identity Disorder, Narcissistic Personality Disorder, and Borderline Personality Disorder to manifest. A treatment plan was written up that involved a great deal of medication and therapy over the course of three and a half years. There would never be a cure for Osborn's condition- not without a miracle- but they were confident they could stabilize him enough for him to return to polite society.

It was the hardest thing he'd ever done or would ever do, but Norman committed to the plan and refused to give up on himself. Norman Osborn wasn't going to let himself be beaten by this.

Unfortunately he was never given the chance to finish the treatment. The Skrulls invaded earth, assassinated its front line of defense and swarmed over the rest of humanity like a plague. It became brutally obvious that mankind wouldn't be able to win this war on its own, and Osborn couldn't simply sit back and watch the planet burn from a padded cell. Freeing himself from his rehabilitation facility, Norman armed himself with stolen commandeered Stark tech and began organizing a resistance movement with many of his old rivals from his time as the Goblin.

[mickilennial]

You used the wrong song there, Maxx.

[Supermaxx]

powerful meme

[Retired]

Enter the Hero, stage right:

Character Proposal

| Name |

Iron Patriot // Norman Osborn

| Age |

Early 40s

| Character Differences |

In this timeline Norman Osborn is no longer a villain, though calling him a hero might be overselling it. Still as narcissistic, condescending and ruthless as ever, he's humanity's unlikeliest savior. A great deal of his recent life has been dedicated to fighting for humanity's survival, not just because his interests happen to align with the side of light (namely not wanting to die in an alien-induced genocide), but because he sees that fight as a road toward personal redemption. The war with the Skrulls is Norman's chance to prove he's no longer the monster he once was, that he's conquered the Goblin, and that he deserves to see his son again. All the while he continues to struggle with his psychosis in a silent battle for his mind and his soul.

| Brief World Background |

Earth wasn't in the least bit prepared when the Skrulls came for Earth. Unlike in the mainline continuity, Tony Stark never learns of the Secret Invasion, and the Skrulls are able to systematically pick apart every major threat before they're discovered. The Avengers, the Fantastic Four, the x-Men, and even SHIELD all fall, the world none the wiser to what's taken place. It was only after victory was assured that the aliens launched an all-out attack on Earth.

Yet the swift triumph they anticipated never came, for in their darkest hour humanity still managed to resist- led not by its traditional heroes but instead by dictators, conquerors, terrorists and villains of all other stripes. Pariahs once shunned by the world for their misdeeds rose up in earnest to defend it. Among the highest echelons of the resistance sat men and women like Doctor Doom, Emma Frost, and Namor, united in common purpose. They were the strongest mankind had left to lead them, and that ensured their demise. The Skrulls managed to pick off the leadership one by one, carving out a power vacuum within the command structure.

A vacuum that Norman Osborn stepped in to fill.

The war was a long, grueling affair, with neither side willing to give even an inch of ground. It was the bloodiest conflict the world had ever seen, and it raged on for more than a decade before Osborn was able to strike the critical blow that would turn the tide in earth's favor: he punched through the Skrull flagship and put a bullet through their queen. It didn't end the fight by any measure, but it marked the turning point that allowed a united earth to crush the invasion for good.

With the Skrulls pushed back into space, the surviving members of humanity began to reorganize themselves to prepare for further conflict- they knew well that the invasion of Earth was only the start of things. Osborn was, naturally, the best choice to lead the effort. He established HAMMER as a militarized opposite to SHIELD with himself as its director. Construction of a space fleet began, headed by former scientists and engineers from AIM, with the hope of striking back at the Skrulls for all that they had done.

| Brief Character Background |

Norman Osborn gained his wealth selling prototype weaponry to the American military. His company, Oscorp, was once a significant competitor to the likes of Stark Industries, only for the entire industry to be flipped on its head the day the 'Iron Man'- quickly revealed to be Tony Stark himself- appeared on the public stage. Nothing Oscorp was developing at the time could ever hope to live up to the armor, and every country on the planet was looking to replicate it. Osborn was far too proud to stoop to the level of many of his competitors that were racing to make and sell copycat suits en-masse, and he stuck religiously to his current project: attempting to re-discover the Super Soldier formula that created Captain America.

But progress was painfully slow, and USFDA refused to allow human trials to begin until the numerous side effects appearing in the animal testing phase were addressed. Norman flushed more and more resources into the development of the drug, diverting them from the company's more profitable ventures in the hopes of making a breakthrough. It didn't work, the serum remained unstable, and Oscorp was dragged under by his obsession. In a final, desperate bid to prove he wasn't a failure, Osborn injected himself with the incomplete formula, and the psychopathic killer known as the Green Goblin was born. That personality dominated Norman for eight, long years of his life, compelling him to terrorize the people of New York City and do battle with local hero Spider-Man.

This 'second personality' wrought chaos across the city, killing, maiming and destroying whoever or whatever he pleased, showing an intense obsession with proving its superiority over everyone else- most especially Spider-Man. It wasn't until Norman's son, Harry, was caught in the crossfire that Osborn was able to wrestle some semblance of control back. He surrendered himself to SHIELD, beginning down the arduous path of rehabilitation with the hope of one day being allowed to see his son again.

It became immediately clear to his doctors that the chemical mixture Norman had injected himself with was altering the state of his mind in a profound way, causing symptoms of Dissociative Identity Disorder, Narcissistic Personality Disorder, and Borderline Personality Disorder to manifest. A treatment plan was written up that involved a great deal of medication and therapy over the course of three and a half years. There would never be a cure for Osborn's condition- not without a miracle- but they were confident they could stabilize him enough for him to return to polite society.

It was the hardest thing he'd ever done or would ever do, but Norman committed to the plan and refused to give up on himself. Norman Osborn wasn't going to let himself be beaten by this.

Unfortunately he was never given the chance to finish the treatment. The Skrulls invaded earth, assassinated its front line of defense and swarmed over the rest of humanity like a plague. It became brutally obvious that mankind wouldn't be able to win this war on its own, and Osborn couldn't simply sit back and watch the planet burn from a padded cell. Freeing himself from his rehabilitation facility, Norman armed himself with stolen commandeered Stark tech and began organizing a resistance movement with many of his old rivals from his time as the Goblin.

@ComradeMaxx

Strong concept. Is the serum still pumping through his veins, diminished or not? Without the suit, does he still possess his Goblin abilities?

[mattmanganon]

@ComradeMaxx "Its time for some motherfuckin democracy!"

Norman: "Feel liberty! S.H.I.E.L.D! Taste the sweet nourishment of freedom, New York!"
Asgard: *fights back*
Norman: *Charges unibeam* "Boy, I'm about to liberate the ever living fuck out of you!"

[Supermaxx]

<Snipped quote by ComradeMaxx>

Strong concept. Is the serum still pumping through his veins, diminished or not? Without the suit, does he still possess his Goblin abilities?

@Retired

Some of the serum still remains, yeah, but its far less potent than it used to be. He's closer to a peak 20-something in terms of physical abilities than the 40-something he should be.

[Retired]

Updated

Primary Concept - The Mad Scientist

_{Doc Green}

| Name |

Bruce Banner

| Age |

35

| Character Differences |

Doc Green more resembles She-Hulk than the traditional Bruce Banner and Hulk dynamic. Bruce is the dominant persona, with the Hulk persona's savage rage merging with Bruce's own persona when transformed. While Doc Green can grow stronger the more angry he gets, the merging of the two personas has placed a significant "cap" on how strong the Hulk can get. The downside for Bruce fully controlling the Hulk persona: Doc Green isn't capable of reaching the heights the Hulk did. Cosmetically, Doc Green is about half the size of the Hulk, and has managed to retain the beard and hair-style of Bruce Banner. He also tries to wear clothes as much as he possibly can... though finding some that fit is a large ask.

| Brief World Background |

Earth 59301 // "Desert Earth"

In this amalgamated DC/Marvel Universe, the world at large has become a wasteland. The world's greatest minds, from Ray Palmer to Reed Richards did their best to find a way to reverse the effects of Global Warming, but it was all for naught. In the year 2030, as the world was plagued with various ecological disasters. While Bruce Banner and Tony Stark experimented with cleaner energy sources in an attempt to at least slow down the coming ecological doomsday, Victor von Doom and Lex Luthor came up with another strategy: speed up the process. The Illuminati, consisting of individuals such as Black Bolt, Doctor Doom, Mr. Fantastic, Black Panther, Gorilla Grodd, Bruce Wayne, Lex Luthor, and Tony Stark (at the tail end, when convinced his efforts wouldn't solve the problem) worked together to create their own "safe havens" around the world that would house a limited amount of the world population in climate-controlled and shielded environments. They also worked on another plan: create a device that would speed up the effects of global warming in a hope that it the Earth would "reset" itself.

Their efforts didn't exactly work as intended. The disasters became that much more disastrous, and billions died violent deaths due to these incredibly powerful natural disasters. Those who managed to survive, especially those heroes and villains who noticed that some of their counterparts had disappeared while the world needed them most, began searching for the rumored "safe havens." Those heroes and villains who didn't perish in the natural disasters sought refuge within their Safe Havens of choice. However, even as power shifted hands within some of these safe havens, one thing remained the same: free will and knowledge of the Illuminati's plan could not be allowed to circulate. Order needed to be maintained... for humanity's sake. The rest of the world has practically become a desert wasteland.

| Brief Character Background |

Bruce Banner was born in the mid 1990's, and was not raised in the most healthy environment. His father was an abusive alcoholic who constantly tormented his son. Despite the years of abuse, Bruce did everything he could to study hard. He was admitted to MIT when he was sixteen to study nuclear physics, as he believed that the solution to clean energy lied in nuclear power. It was here that Bruce got in touch with Professor Igor Starsky and fellow student Walter Langkowski. The three formed an intellectual trio incredibly interested in the potential of gamma radiation. The three ended up accepting a government contract to work at Desert Base in New Mexico, working on a gamma device. The device was intended to be an alternative power source, but 8 years of work yielded no results. General Ross, the CO of Desert Base, secretly met with Dr. Starsky to discuss the possibility of retooling the device into a weapon. Starsky ultimately agreed, and he set to work on developing the weapon.

Langkowski, after discovering what Dr. Starsky had agreed to, protested the decision for a time before relenting to continue working on the project. Bruce, on the other hand, never bothered to protest as he knew that he needed Starsky's expertise in the future. Of course, Bruce's life would be forever changed by this. He found himself working late one fateful night, picking up a shift from Starsky last minute. When he entered the chamber with the device that night, he found irregular readings. It turned out that Langkowski was attempting to get revenge on Starsky by tampering with the device. Of course, Bruce was the one who found himself exposed to high levels of Gamma Radiation. The Hulk was born.

For some time, Bruce Banner's story was one of a man tormented by his inner monster. He rampaged through the Southwestern United States for years, until one fateful encounter with Charles Xavier and the X-Men. While Charles' X-Men were keeping the Hulk distracted, Xavier delved into the beast's mind to find and confront Bruce Banner. Together, the two managed to bring Bruce's persona to the forefront once again and establish mental blocks to help Bruce maintain control over his alter-ego. Together, the two could form Doc Green and Bruce could control his angry outbursts to become a positive member of society once again. With the coming ecological crisis, Bruce reached out to famed inventor Tony Stark offering his expertise with gamma radiation to find a clean energy solution.

The two worked together until "The Event" in late 2030. Bruce helped Stark create a more powerful arc reactor that made use of gamma radiation. Of course, while Bruce hoped that this would be used to save the world, Stark ended up having a different idea. Instead of commercializing the device, Stark used the reactor to help power Luther and Doom's device. When the event happened, Bruce found himself in Malibu enjoying a vacation. When the earthquakes hit and began splitting California away from the rest of the U.S., Doc Green and other heroes rushed in to help minimize the damage. Despite their efforts, over a billion people died in the span of two weeks.

Bruce began to put the pieces together when Stark reached out to offer the esteemed physicist a spot in his own personal paradise in Las Vegas. Call it ego or personal responsibility, but Doc Green decided to answer Stark's invitation. Once inside Stark's safe haven, the scientist let his rage seethe to its greatest extent. He managed to storm his way into Tony's personal tower, beating away Stark's drone Iron Man suits, until he got the chance to square off against Iron Man himself. Tony had prepared for this contingency, and had designed a Hulkbuster suit powered by the same gamma-arc reactor that the two geniuses had designed. Doc Green got his ass handed to him easily, and his last memory was of being flown out of Earth's atmosphere by the suit and left to die in the vast coldness of space.

Of course, Mojo couldn't let such a specimen go to waste.

@webboysurf

Does Bruce have the ability to revert to his human body or is he permanently in this smaller Hulk form?

[Hound55]

I want 7 Spider-Men and an Iron Patriot...

[webboysurf]

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Does Bruce have the ability to revert to his human body or is he permanently in this smaller Hulk form?

@Retired

That's a good question. I would prefer he have the ability to revert back into his normal form for the sake of being able to "blend in" to other realities. But I honestly feel comfortable having that vetoed and him being stuck as "Doc Green" since that is more in line with the comics.

[Retired]

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That's a good question. I would prefer he have the ability to revert back into his normal form for the sake of being able to "blend in" to other realities. But I honestly feel comfortable having that vetoed and him being stuck as "Doc Green" since that is more in line with the comics.

@webboysurf

The former definitely helps with balance and would be my preference, personally.

Fuck the comics. Who here even likes comics, amirite?

[Zoey Boey]

marvel zombies universe!

[Supermaxx]

I've never read a single comic book in my entire life.

[mattmanganon]

@ComradeMaxx

[GreenGrenade]

Gave it a think over. What's that thing Uncle Ben's been known to say?

"Fuck it."

Did anyone say Spider-Verse?

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| Name |

Dr. Peter Benjamin Parker // Spider-Man

| Age |

40

| Character Differences |

Peter’s been Spider-Man for twenty-five years. He’s experienced, has Spidey down to a science – he knows what to do, has the skills and tools to do it, and that feeling of responsibility continues to burn hot, now more than ever, he’d say. He’s not that rookie kid eclipsed by the old guard anymore – he is the old guard.

Now, for the Parker half of his life. He’s married to Mary Jane, with whom he has two kids: Anna May (“Mayday”) and Benjamin (“Benjy”) – fifteen and ten years old. He works as a professor of biotechnology at his alma mater, Empire State University, having previously held a job as a science teacher at Midtown High while working on his PhD. Now, it may sound like Peter’s somehow managed to elude that annoying Parker Luck of his, but that’s not strictly true. It just manifests itself in different ways, as he struggles to juggle being a father, husband, hero, Avenger, and reliable employee all at once. The game’s still the same – the scenario’s just changed a little, is all.

| Brief World Background |

Earth 15862 // “Home”
A Marvel Studios production...

The old guard have, for the most part, given way to the new. Bucky Barnes is Captain America. Kate Bishop is the sole Hawkeye. Xavier’s School is run by Katherine Pryde, and Franklin Richards heads the Future Foundation alongside his sister with seldom guidance from their parents, who’ve hung up the blue spandex. Ben sits on the Avengers’ reserve list, while Johnny stands among the organisation’s seniority alongside the likes of Tony Stark, Logan, Luke Cage, and Jessica Drew (some more senior than others). Natalia Romanova is the director of S.H.I.E.L.D. following Nick Fury’s passing. Steve Rogers is President of the United States. The Daily Bugle supports Spider-Man.

It’s a strange world.

| Brief Character Background |

You know the story. At fifteen, Peter Parker was bitten by a spider. He got powers. He was irresponsible, and his uncle died. Peter’s guilt led him to swing through New York’s streets as Spider-Man. Over the first few years, through plenty of trials, lessons and loss, Peter learned to move past that guilt. It no longer defined him. He helped people because it mattered, because it was the right thing to do. These convictions took a toll on his life, and many people, himself included, suffered for it. Spider-Man took precedence over Peter Parker, for better or for worse... usually for worse.

Eventually, Peter learned to strike a balance. He did his best to give himself at least some of the attention everyone kept saying he deserved, and distinguished himself as one of the best among his peers, earning their respect, and occasionally, their admiration. He had a daughter, got married (in that order), finally got that doctorate he’d been neglecting, became a legacy, found a job he loved, and had a son. He was a father, friend, hero, husband, teacher and mentor, and despite all the blows life kept dealing – and boy, were they dealt – he was happy.

He is Peter Parker. He is Spider-Man.

And he’s trying to find his way home.

Peter was abducted while swinging home to cook dinner.