[OOC] Ruin | Advanced NRP

[NewSun]

Sweet jesus, Darkwolf. Hahaha. Give me a few minutes to read that one through. Also, i'm going to make a sort of compendium thread for everyone to put their characters in. The title art is just so we know who is involved, but we need fast access to sheets. I'll let you know when there is one up.

[darkwolf687]

I am somewhat interested in the idea of a 'Good' god guiding the humans. After all, every god has their realm and someone has to have made the mortal realm. And how exactly does a god die? I suppose one could just get bored, up and leave to create a new realm, or grow very weak and fade if there was nobody left who believed in them, but I don't know how you'd kill a god. Maybe the god(s) who created the mortal plane comes back and gets pissed at everyone trying to kill their creations xD And give them an army of religious zealots and some angels and all of a sudden the Princes of Ruin have a large job on their hand trying to claim the mortal plain. Would also be interesting to see whether they would form alliances against each other and the mortals as a result

[Raptorman]

The Prince
Name: Lord Evarast, The Radiant Arbiter, The Scourge of Light, He Who Judges,

Domain: Peace, Law, Justice, Light, Dominion

Description: Tell us about the Prince of Ruin. What do they look like? How do they act? What cosmic powers do they have? How scary are they? Tell us everything!
The Lord Evarast takes for his own form one that resembles that of humanity but that is far more impressive. His body appears to be human in many respects, he has the two arms, two legs, one head scheme of humanity. Further his body is similarly proportioned to humans though in an idealized sense. His skin is the palest white in color and from his body a brilliant light shines with an intensity that varies from gentle to blinding depending on his own whims. Golden hair adorns his head and a crown of tall white crystal spines is wrapped around that. Typically he appears to be clad in garb that fits his almost angelic appearance, robes of the purest gold and silver are wrapped around his form. Also is a cape of the purest white that appears to be made of the same crystal as his crown but magically functioning as clothing. But many have claimed that this cape of his is truly a pair of great crystal wings that extend from his back furled up. The truth is unknown though it is true that many of his servants bear similar items of uncertain true nature.He is frequently depicted with a great spear held in his right hand and a set of scales held in his left. The spear is said to be made from crystallized light itself and to be able to pierce anything. But such is the stuff of myths for none can truly say to have seen him upon the world itself to know if the myths are true.

Unlike many of his fellows Evarast is actually the subject of a great deal of worship from those humans who dwell upon Anadara. He has been known there by many names and many cultures have worshiped him as their god of law and light. It is said that he gave men the codes by which they were to live and that those who followed his rules would be rewarded with a heaven after they died. It is true that a heaven waits for those who uphold the laws that he has created, it is true that if you live a perfect life, a life without any violations of his codes or a life in which you serve faithfully enough it is true that you will reach a heaven after death. But Evarast is not kind, nor is he merciful, those who have crossed the threshold and strayed from his laws and have not served him faithfully to earn a just reprieve are damned and their souls are forfeit. What fate awaits those who he judges unfit shall be discussed further in realm information.It is said that he protects those who cannot protect themselves, that his servants fight against the darkness for the good of the world. And this is an image that he has never shattered, though in truth he does not protect those who cannot protect themselves, he merely obeys the codes that he has set down for himself and hates the fellow princes of ruin far more than almost anyone could imagine. Evarast does not lie and none of his servants are capable of telling falsehoods a fact that has been frequently cited as evidence that he and his are in fact divine and on the side of the world.In truth this only means that he will never directly tell a lie, it does not mean he is not capable of deception.

The Realm
Name: The Evarraelm (Also known as Heaven to many)

Description: The Evarraelm is a place that truly could be described as a vision of heaven. Shining white cities stretch across the lands and hanging suspended above fertile and pure land are the floating residences of those who serve Evarast. The world appears idyllic, it is said that nowhere is life so pure and untarnished as upon the plains and within the great shining cities of the Evarraelm. But there is a darker nature to this idyllic land, in truth Evarast's punishment for the souls of those who are judged unfit is that they are altered and then used to build the structure of the realm itself. The very ground is made up of the tortured souls of those who have not upheld his laws, every stone, every fiber of the realm that is not a being itself is made from the souls of those who once failed to uphold his laws and were given over to him.

Denizens:

The Denizens of the Evarraelm can be divided into several main categories based on their nature as well as their origins.

Mortal Origins:
The Sinless- Those who bear this title are renown among those who were once human and worshiped Evarast. They are known for having never violated a single facet of the codes of Evarast. They lived lives that even the exacting judge who examines all facets of life could not find flaw in. These are the rarest for few can live a life perfectly according to a code, even when they believe that their souls are at stake. These are the princes and princesses, lords and ladies among the human population of the Evarraelm.

The Justly Pardoned- These are those who served well enough that Evarast judges that their service outweighs their violations. This is in no way an act of mercy, every deed that was committed is weighed and many holy warriors who thought they did his work have been found wanting when their deeds do not measure up to the scale of their transgressions. These are far more common then the sinless and as such make up the bulk of the actually human population of the Evarraelm

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Immortal Origins-
Wip

[Raptorman]

darkwolf687 said
I am somewhat interested in the idea of a 'Good' god guiding the humans. After all, every god has their realm and someone has to have made the mortal realm. And how exactly does a god die? I suppose one could just get bored, up and leave to create a new realm, or grow very weak and fade if there was nobody left who believed in them, but I don't know how you'd kill a god. Maybe the god(s) who created the mortal plane comes back and gets pissed at everyone trying to kill their creations xD And give them an army of religious zealots and some angels and all of a sudden the Princes of Ruin have a large job on their hand trying to claim the mortal plain. Would also be interesting to see whether they would form alliances against each other and the mortals as a result

As I said you really ought to wait. You might see why as you read what I posted up, which is still very much a wip

[Xaxl]

I'd just like to say I'm perfectly content having no properly "good" gods as NPCs. There's no reason there need to be good gods; the world is meant to be a crapsack preyed upon by demons.

[darkwolf687]

Well well, I think I found god.... xD

[NewSun]

Xaxl said
I'd just like to say I'm perfectly content having no properly "good" gods as NPCs. There's no reason there to be good gods; the world is meant to be a crapsack preyed upon by demons.

That's how it was meant to be. Though i'm half considering the idea of an anti-demon order of Humans somewhere. Like an order of cleric warriors for the canon or something.

EDIT: lots of sheets to read! Give me a few moments. I'll try to have graphics up for everyone as soon as I can!

[TheSovereignGrave]

Yeah, I think good Gods aren't necessary to the story; it's much more interesting with all of our Princes of Ruin running about.

Though I have to say raptorman, that's an interesting Prince.

EDIT: And NewSun, while I don't like the idea of having good Gods I would wholeheartedly support there being a group of humans who are dedicated to fighting the Princes of Ruin. So long as they're not like omnipresent and pervasive all across the world.

[ActRaiserTheReturned]

TheSovereignGrave said
Yeah, I think good Gods aren't necessary to the story; it's much more interesting with all of our Princes of Ruin running about.Though I have to say raptorman, that's an interesting Prince.

Just because there's a god of Light doesn't make him non-Evil. Just ask Spawn, or other fictions where God is evil. For instance, Diablo series.

[GreivousKhan]

darkwolf687 said
I am somewhat interested in the idea of a 'Good' god guiding the humans. After all, every god has their realm and someone has to have made the mortal realm. And how exactly does a god die? I suppose one could just get bored, up and leave to create a new realm, or grow very weak and fade if there was nobody left who believed in them, but I don't know how you'd kill a god. Maybe the god(s) who created the mortal plane comes back and gets pissed at everyone trying to kill their creations xD And give them an army of religious zealots and some angels and all of a sudden the Princes of Ruin have a large job on their hand trying to claim the mortal plain. Would also be interesting to see whether they would form alliances against each other and the mortals as a result

My view is once a god no longer has any worshipers, he pretty much loses power or dies, at least in the sense no one no longer knows about them or cares. Which alone gives them reason to get more followers.

But a benevolent deity or two would indeed be interesting. Hopefully it wont take away to much of interactions/schemes between players.

TheSovereignGrave said
Yeah, I think good Gods aren't necessary to the story; it's much more interesting with all of our Princes of Ruin running about.Though I have to say raptorman, that's an interesting Prince.EDIT: And NewSun, while I don't like the idea of having good Gods I would wholeheartedly support there being a group of humans who are dedicated to fighting the Princes of Ruin. So long as they're not like omnipresent and pervasive all across the world.

Maybe an order that still worships or follows the previous creator god.

[TheSovereignGrave]

ActRaiserTheReturned said
Just because there's a god of Light doesn't make him non-Evil. Just ask Spawn, or other fictions where God is evil. For instance, Diablo series.

Um... Then what would be the difference between these hypothetical Gods and our Princes of Ruin be?

[Raptorman]

Guys, can we stop talking about adding other gods? We are fine with the princes of ruin.

[GreivousKhan]

TheSovereignGrave said
Um... Then what would be the difference between these hypothetical Gods and our Princes of Ruin?

Ultimately superficial really. Though any deity that seeks the needs of his followers for their greater good or benefit usually is enough to pass you as a 'good' god.

But one has to remember the term good is largely perspective. I.E what/who is good for one person, is not always good for another.

[ActRaiserTheReturned]

Raptorman said
Guys, can we stop talking about adding other gods? We are fine with the princes of ruin.

Your post is confusing

[TheSovereignGrave]

ActRaiserTheReturned said
Your post is confusing

How is it confusing? He just wants us to stop talking about adding Gods simply to oppose our Princes of Ruin.

[ActRaiserTheReturned]

TheSovereignGrave said
How is it confusing? He just wants us to stop talking about adding Gods simply to oppose our Princes of Ruin.

He's a Prince of Ruin who is a god of light or something isn't he?

[NewSun]

TheSovereignGrave said
And NewSun, while I don't like the idea of having good Gods I would wholeheartedly support there being a group of humans who are dedicated to fighting the Princes of Ruin. So long as they're not like omnipresent and pervasive all across the world.

Agreed, a part of the reason that the world has gone crapsack is because the Human God has faded out. How this has happened or why is not known. Maybe on of you guys' princes killed it ;) But i'm up for a band of cleric warriors who fight the Princes, and due to the nature of the RP, they could never be omnipresent. They'd appear when you want them to and do what you want them to do, within reason of course.

So, to address this all: I think we'll avoid benevolent deities (or exclusive benevolent deities, as some seem to be a mix of malevolent and benevolent towards their followers). However a cleric band of warriors in the mortal world will probably be a thing.

Also, Darkness without light is an abyss, but light without darkness is blinding. Light can be a bad thing, it can reveal what you may not want it to reveal. It is not an intrinsically 'good' concept in any sense. So long as the god isn't obviously benevolent and too reminiscent of your average good god.

[GreivousKhan]

ActRaiserTheReturned said
He's a Prince of Ruin who is a god of light or something isn't he?

It is rather Ironic he would state to stop talking about adding something he has added.

In any case I do like the order of mortals who defy the Princes of Ruin, after all someone must have written those warning about them on the OP.

[Raptorman]

Evarast is different type of evil. He's not in your face about it. He's deceptive and formed a niche for himself in how the world views him.

You only have to look at what his realm is actually made of to realize it. He's got a great con going

[darkwolf687]

I sense Overseers. Time to make one eat another's flesh and renounce his faith muhahaha