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It's funny you should mention that, considering that despite the obvious Iron Man / War Machine references I'd kind of thought of it as being a little bit like the Hulkbuster suits, in that it was something the government was considering for dealing with rogue metas.

Supersoldier projects might be a better course though.
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And Yog, the powers are looking good so far. Though channeling makes it seem like some kind of mystical ability. Mimicking would be better language in my mind.


What I mean by channeling is that he is drawing from the energy of vehicles to move at high speeds and generate the sounds of the machine
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Lost Cause, I also saw some Hal Jordan in there haha. In the OOC there's a section on the DSA, which is an agency that deals with rogue superhumans among other things. Of course the suit could be used for that as well, but I think the military would want that kind of thing for combat primarily.

Yog, Oh I see. Carry on then haha.
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BlackSam, The bio is good and Furious is accepted. Though I don't imagine news of the League taking in a vigilante that interfered with police investigations will engender very much goodwill haha.
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Ryker's CS is finished, i hope he is acceptable.
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Ryker's is fine for the most part.

The method in which is powers emerged are a flavor of freak accident that don't really make sense to me. I can buy chemicals making someone permanently invisible (with the Awakening's help) but Hot Rod's case smacks of much too handwaving for my taste. Just tweak him to be an Awakened Metahuman and it should be fine. And to balance out the fact that he can imitate a fighter jet, I'd like the physical costs for channeling the fastest vehicles to be pretty massive to balance gameplay. You can still get a lot of traction from channeling a high-performance sports car for most situations and reserving the fastest speeds for special situations.

Also I wouldn't claim him to be the fastest man alive, because there will doubtless be other speedsters both PC and NPC some of whom who will be as fast if not faster.

Also it's very unlikely for any Middle Eastern Terrorists to shoot down a fighter jet as pre-awakening Terror groups wouldn't have that kind of capability. Something else would have to worked out.

Other than that the sheet is fine.
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Ryker's is fine for the most part. The method in which is powers emerged are a flavor of freak accident that don't really make sense to me. I can buy chemicals making someone permanently invisible (with the Awakening's help) but Hot Rod's case smacks of much too handwaving for my taste. Just tweak him to be an Awakened Metahuman and it should be fine. And to balance out the fact that he can imitate a fighter jet, I'd like the physical costs for channeling the fastest vehicles to be pretty massive to balance gameplay. You can still get a lot of traction from channeling a high-performance sports car for most situations and reserving the fastest speeds for special situations. Also I wouldn't claim him to be the fastest man alive, because there will doubtless be other speedsters both PC and NPC some of whom who will be as fast if not faster. Also it's very unlikely for any Middle Eastern Terrorists to shoot down a fighter jet as pre-awakening Terror groups wouldn't have that kind of capability. Something else would have to worked out. Other than that the sheet is fine.


I thought we could play around with ideas because this wasn't exactly like the real world, so I have to change the post traumatic stress part of his history? that takes away the depth of his character and I don't think there are any war zones in today's world where planes are being shot down, so I don't know if there is a solution to that part of his history without erasing it all together.

Also about the powers, I already mentioned in his weaknesses that the faster he goes the more energy his uses and it can have bad side effects if he pushes himself too far. also he has no superhuman strength or magic spells so his speed is his only method of attack besides the sonic boom which won't do too much damage, he needs to be fast otherwise he is useless.

his claim to being the fastest man alive is just a title he calls himself out of ego
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It's not the real world but it reflects political, social, and cultural realities we have in our own for the most part. You could have his wingman's death be the subject of a training accident gone wrong or a mechanical mishap. It could even be an Awakening related incident.

And that's a far point about his powers. Everything else stands.
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It's not the real world but it reflects political, social, and cultural realities we have in our own for the most part. You could have his wingman's death be the subject of a training accident gone wrong or a mechanical mishap. It could even be an Awakening related incident. And that's a far point about his powers. Everything else stands.


I edited his CS so his best friend died in an accident, and his speed channeling powers can only channel the speed of one vehicle at a time and there is a two second period before he can gain the speed of another vehicle. I also clarified in his weaknesses the dangers of running into things at high speeds.
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BlackSam, The bio is good and Furious is accepted. Though I don't imagine news of the League taking in a vigilante that interfered with police investigations will engender very much goodwill haha.


Not that Pariah can say much, pot and kettle sorta situation there I'd say.

Though Pariah probably wouldn't have made as big a mess!
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Well there's that but I was referring to how political groups and activists would probably react haha. There was this whole "Silence of the Lambs" thing that Pariah had when he investigated Abattoir which would make for a pretty gruesome book if I ever actually become a writer.

And Yog some issues have been raised to me about Hot Rod's powers. Namely that his range should top out at fighter jet speeds because jumbo jets are prone to knocking vehicles end over end. And bodily sound control and protective field are fine but it's been raised to my attention that sonic booms seem to decrease as speeds increase strangely, so that power can be axed and you can adapt his flying ability to use jet thrusts to knock people back.
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Well there's that but I was referring to how political groups and activists would probably react haha. There was this whole "Silence of the Lambs" thing that Pariah had when he investigated Abattoir which would make for a pretty gruesome book if I ever actually become a writer. And Yog some issues have been raised to me about Hot Rod's powers. Namely that his range should top out at fighter jet speeds because jumbo jets are prone to knocking vehicles end over end. And bodily sound control and protective field are fine but it's been raised to my attention that sonic booms seem to decrease as speeds increase strangely, so that power can be axed and you can adapt his flying ability to use jet thrusts to knock people back.


I got rid of the sonic boom power, and I made it so Ryker has complete control over the thrust so even if it is the power of a jumbo jet, he can control its intensity and where he shoots it at so it will reduce the collateral damage.
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I got rid of the sonic boom power, and I made it so Ryker has complete control over the thrust so even if it is the power of a jumbo jet, he can control its intensity and where he shoots it at so it will reduce the collateral damage.


Um... the point of that is that it's enough force to flip more than ten tons of metal like it's nothing. It's not a collateral damage thing, it was a sheer raw power one: the engines on a 747 lift nearly 500 (short) tons between the four of them.

The official thrust (since wing shape plays a large role) per engine is 33 tons each, on the new models. See the issue?
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It's not strong enough to knock down a building, also he won't go all out otherwise that could kill a villain. Remember superman holds back because he knows how dangerous his strength can be
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Blowing wind with 33 tons of force does seem somewhat excessive Yog. If his character wouldn't use that power than the capability can be reduced without anything fundamentally changing.
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Blowing wind with 33 tons of force does seem somewhat excessive Yog. If his character wouldn't use that power than the capability can be reduced without anything fundamentally changing.


he wouldn't really use the thrust at that level really because it would send him flying with that amount of power, it would be a last resort, as it has been stated in the power section, he can control its intensity so he would have to make it weaker in order to not be blown away. Again he has only two methods of attack, both of which can be easily countered with villains who are strong and big. I recognize the potential but you guys aren't bringing the situation into the equation, he wouldn't use it at that level unless it was a last resort.
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Imagine 5 adult, male African Elephants sitting on top of you. That is the level of force in question. Unless you know a building that can stop an elephant that wants to go right through it instantly, then it would damage structures.

It's probably not a good idea to have enough strength to overwhelm essentially every defence a villain could mount.
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I edited it now so he can't use the thrust power of a jumbo jet, is he acceptable now?
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Why is it a problem when Furious has been allowed with limitless strength? I've RP'd with Yog a lot in the past and I've never seen him either Godmod or go OP, and even with his jumbo jet thrust or whatever (I don't claim to know anything about physics) I still think he'd have the common sense and decency from keeping it becoming a RP problem.

Not that I want to argue or anything, I'm just not seeing a massive problem with it.
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yeah why is it that some of you seem to have no sense of trust in other players?
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