[OOC] Mass Effect: Wanted

[Vakte]

Good reads from you both :) This pace is awesome, now who's next? We're onto page two here people!!!!

[Dervish]

Just Voltaire left! Then back to me, and I'm already about half-way done a post.

[Voltaire]

I'll have a post up for you guys tomorrow.

[Hank]

It makes me feel all sorts of warm and fuzzy things to see Sleuth mentioned & recognized by the vast majority of the characters in this roleplay.

[Crya]

I've done a lot of soul searching and, upon going through my first replay since ME3, I think I'm finally coming to terms with the ending. I'm going with destroy this time around. The geth will go down in history as heroic martyrs, and by allying with the quarians in the days before their death, the quarians learn forgiveness and peace.

[Dervish]

I just tell myself that Starbinger was a lying sack of shit and is trying to emotionally manipulate me, but even if Starbinger is telling the truth (it's a fucking Reaper; of course it's trying to manipulate you, that's all they ever do), then it's the cost of a synthetic race verses literally everything else in the galaxy. A race that has on two occasions gone over to the Reapers and almost helped usher in the extinction.

I love the geth and all, but it was no a hard choice. Sucks about EDI, but what's one life weighed against trillions? I set out to kill the Reapers from day one, I never wavered.

[Voltaire]

Dervish said
I just tell myself that Starbinger was a lying sack of shit and is trying to emotionally manipulate me, but even if Starbinger is telling the truth (it's a fucking Reaper; of course it's trying to manipulate you, that's all they ever do), then it's the cost of a synthetic race verses literally everything else in the galaxy. A race that has on two occasions gone over to the Reapers and almost helped usher in the extinction. I love the geth and all, but it was no a hard choice. Sucks about EDI, but what's one life weighed against trillions? I set out to kill the Reapers from day one, I never wavered.

I just like to blow shit up.

The Reapers and their relays were my greatest masterpiece.

Post will be up later tonight.

[Mosis Tosis]

Personally I never felt like Destroy was even an option.

First of all, there's no reason to believe Starchild is lying. If he is, why does he even give you the Destroy option? Why make up a needlessly complicated lie? He could've just been like "Nah, that red thing over there? It's just a trash compactor, don't worry about it."

The fact that the geth are synthetic really shouldn't factor into it at all imo. Regardless of whatever ambiguity was present in the first two games concerning the sentience of the Geth, by the end of the third game they are undoubtedly sentient beings with just as much a right to life as any other race. I wouldn't kill the entirety of the Human race (though that would've made for a pretty poignant and interesting ending), or the Turians, or the Asari or anyone else, not when there are other options available (which there are). And saying the Geth are a liability because some of them supported the Reapers is like saying the Humans are too dangerous because Cerberus almost fucked up the galaxy too.

Both Control and Synthesis are more viable options, imo.

[Cpt Toellner]

Hank said
It makes me feel all sorts of warm and fuzzy things to see Sleuth mentioned & recognized by the vast majority of the characters in this roleplay.

Kesik cars not for you or any other insignificant aliens.

Kesik don't give a fuck.

[Crya]

The thing is, I'm only willing to kill the geth because it's the only option. If the destroy ending would have caused all of the quarians' suits to malfunction, killing them all, but sparing the geth, I would still choose destroy. The control is what the Illusive Man wanted, and Synthesis is what Saren wanted. Both crazy, deluded men. I don't really want their visions carried out, not with all the unknown consequences.

But I have to say, if any race was to get wiped out, it would be the geth. They just gained consciousness. They have no culture, music, art, government, history, etc. etc. yet. Killing them doesn't leave as big of a hole in the galaxy as killing, say, the asari would.

[Mosis Tosis]

Crya said
The thing is, I'm only willing to kill the geth because it's the only option. If the destroy ending would have caused all of the quarians' suits to malfunction, killing them all, but sparing the geth, I would still choose destroy. The control is what the Illusive Man wanted, and Synthesis is what Saren wanted. Both crazy, deluded men. I don't really want their visions carried out, not with all the unknown consequences.

The Illusive man was just that: deluded. Shepard is not. Saren didn't want synthesis, he wanted servitude in return for survival. While I agree that both Control and Synthesis leave way too many loose threads and what-ifs (which I think is truly the greatest weakness of the ending sequence), I find it hard to justify genocide based on things that might go wrong.

But I have to say, if any race was to get wiped out, it would be the geth. They just gained consciousness. They have no culture, music, art, government, history, etc. etc. yet. Killing them doesn't leave as big of a hole in the galaxy as killing, say, the asari would.

This is basically just cultural elitism. While a culture may be defined by the creations of the individuals within, we're not talking about the price of wiping out a culture: we're talking about exterminating a living race. Even just talking about culture itself, why does a society's longevity give it a greater right to live to life than any other society. It can't just be because "Well the Geth are the new kids on the block anyway, no one will miss them."

[Voltaire]

You're both wrong. Explosions.

You say Shepard and The Illusive man aren't the same, and yet, if Shepard wasn't being influenced by the reapers, why was the Illusive man able to control him so easily at the end? So completely I might add, that he even makes you shoot one of your oldest friends.

[Mosis Tosis]

Voltaire said
You're both wrong. Explosions.You say Shepard and The Illusive man aren't the same, and yet, if Shepard wasn't being influence by the reapers, why was the Illusive man able to control him so easily at the end? So completely I might add, that he even makes you shoot one of your oldest friends.

He also controls Anderson. So by that logic, Anderson....is indoctrinated too? :/

[Voltaire]

Why not? He's been in constant contact with the reapers since their invasion. The reapers are capable of taking control of peoples minds by their mere presence no?

[Mosis Tosis]

Voltaire said
Why not? He's been in constant contact with the reapers since their invasion. The reapers are capable of taking control of peoples minds by their mere presence no?

No more than any other solider in the war. If indoctrination is that easy there shouldn't even be a war going on.

[Voltaire]

That's why they focus on key players. If they hadn't focused on indoctrinating Anderson then he would have just been able to shoot The Illusive man when they met.

[Mosis Tosis]

Voltaire said
That's why they focus on key players. If they hadn't focused on indoctrinating Anderson then he would have just been able to shoot The Illusive man when they met.

Was there some sort of implication that you need to be already indoctrinated for TIM's MegaReaperPowers(tm) to work on you, and I just missed it? I thought he was just juiced up on reaper circuitry.

[Sixsmith]

I just personally think Control is the worst ending.

You're basically doing what Starchild McSpaceMagic did in the beginning. Weren't the Reapers there to preserve life when they were first created, not eradicate it to make more of it's kind using the genetic slush of the most superior species of that cycle? I'm not going to question the strength of Shepard's will, but it's inevitable that he'll eventually come to some kind of wacked out conclusion as the Reapers had. And then you have mass genocide again because the Shepard-Reapers fell back into their 'no one can be trusted with their own lives' god-complex assholery.

I went with Destroy in my first run through, but thinking back on it, I may choose Synthesis over it if I were to go through the game again. I mean, to be honest, you're either going to have to commit genocide, potentially come back to destroy the entire universe... again, or you just have to play god to make a race of possibly perfect beings without their consent. Hard choices, but I'd say the latter is the best.

[Zombiedude101]

Control is the only ending I could go for in the respect that it keeps both the Geth alive and makes reconstruction of the galaxy easier. Related:



Personally I just ignore the Mass Effect ending and enjoy the earlier moments. Oh and fuck EA. We can ALL agree on that, right?

[Sixsmith]

EA can suck a dick. D:<