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I don't really see why we even need to "justify" our IC actions in the OOC. We aren't our nations, so it's silly to try to take the moral high ground here.


I'll agree. Britain want's Dutch colonies. Wants to fuck over the main continent and be the Super Power. Wants Colonies to never stop being colonies. Etc.
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It is like a damn circumcision party in here.
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I don't actually have anything to say, I just want to join in.

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Pasta Sentient said
I'll agree. Britain want's Dutch colonies. Wants to fuck over the main continent and be the Super Power. Wants Colonies to never stop being colonies. Etc.

Yeah, we don't really need to play Game of Thrones. It's incredibly dumb and turns this less into a roleplay and more into a competition.

It's no secret that I'd take South Germany given the chance or that I'd kick the Ottomans out of Europe had I ever ended up in a situation where it would be possible.
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NarcolepticSailor said
It is like a damn circumcision party in here.


If RPG had a like or upvote system... my god.
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I created a secret police force, so I suppose I cannot take the moral high ground on anything anymore.
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CSA can use scissors too. Can I join the party?

SNIP.
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I created a secret police force, so I suppose I cannot take the moral high ground on anything anymore.


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CSA is on higher ground than Spain now, then??:D
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Don't want to kick the argument back up again, so I will keep it general.


Yeah, we don't really need to play Game of Thrones. It's incredibly dumb and turns this less into a roleplay and more into a competition.


Game of Thrones is all intrigue and backstabbing. If we play realistically (play our roles, because we are roleplayers as you observe), there is much less intrigue and hard feelings because everyone knows everyone is acting like their nation and isn't declaring war because they hate you OOC.
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Ampharos said
Yeah, we don't really need to play Game of Thrones. It's incredibly dumb and turns this less into a roleplay and more into a competition.It's no secret that I'd take South Germany given the chance or that I'd kick the Ottomans out of Europe had I ever ended up in a situation where it would be possible.


I'm going to agree on this being super silly. It's painfully obvious sometimes, with some of you. Like, I've noticed some people trying to deny certain things in OOC, and getting really defensive about it like they've convinced themselves they're not full of shit. It's silly and unnecessary. There is no need to lie in OOC. It's especially silly when you get into an argument because you're trying to lie so hard about something.
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I'm going to agree on this being super silly. It's painfully obvious sometimes, with some of you. Like, I've noticed some people trying to deny certain things in OOC, and getting really defensive about like they've convinced themselves they're not full of shit. It's silly and unnecessary. There is no need to lie in OOC. It's especially silly when you get into an argument because you're trying to lie so hard about something.


I haven't lied about anything have to do with the Wartime Reciprocity Treaty. All of the allegations that I coerced France into the deal in any which way are completely and utterly false, and tantamount to OOC insults.
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I tried to Assassinate the President, the VP, and the Sec of State. All failed.


Quick! Before Spain's secret police come! Let it be known OOC!
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AegonVI said
CSA is on higher ground than Spain now, then??:D


CSA: Slavery (Everywhere), Failed Political Assassination Attempts = Prestige: 3

Spain: Slavery (in Colonies); Secret Police Force = Prestige: 40

No, not yet.
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CSA: Slavery (Everywhere), Failed Political Assassination Attempts = Prestige: 3Spain: Slavery (in Colonies); Secret Police Force = Prestige: 40 No, not yet.


No slavery in army though...

And what's your public support looking like again?(;
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Speaking of which, how does prestige work? Obviously you lose it by breaking treaties and attempting assassinations and so on, but how do you gain it?
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I'm going to agree on this being super silly. It's painfully obvious sometimes, with some of you. Like, I've noticed some people trying to deny certain things in OOC, and getting really defensive about it like they've convinced themselves they're not full of shit. It's silly and unnecessary. There is no need to lie in OOC. It's especially silly when you get into an argument because you're trying to lie so hard about something.


Everyone is human. Suppose Ampharos asked me "Hey, are you going to march to Paris this turn?" and I say "Nope, going to march a doomstack to Prague", I think there would be a few more Austrians at Prague (no offense Amph, I probably would too).
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Speaking of which, how does prestige work? Obviously you lose it by breaking treaties and attempting assassinations and so on, but how do you gain it?


^
And how do you use it.
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Speaking of which, how does prestige work? Obviously you lose it by breaking treaties and attempting assassinations and so on, but how do you gain it?


I imagine doing good deeds. But then again, the Swedes would be swimming in Prestige by now if that were the case. Between trade treaties and rescuing refugees.
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So Boerd said
Game of Thrones is all intrigue and backstabbing. If we play realistically (play our roles, because we are roleplayers as you observe), there is much less intrigue and hard feelings because everyone knows everyone is acting like their nation and isn't declaring war because they hate you OOC.

The amount of times that people have vehemently defended their IC actions despite obviously having ulterior motives is stupidly high. There's no need to pretend here in the OOC, is the point I'm trying to make.

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I'm going to agree on this being super silly. It's painfully obvious sometimes, with some of you. Like, I've noticed some people trying to deny certain things in OOC, and getting really defensive about it like they've convinced themselves they're not full of shit. It's silly and unnecessary. There is no need to lie in OOC. It's especially silly when you get into an argument because you're trying to lie so hard about something.

Pretty much. This is a roleplay, after all, not a competition.

So Boerd said
Everyone is human. Suppose Ampharos asked me "Hey, are you going to march to Paris this turn?" and I say "Nope, going to march a doomstack to Prague", I think there would be a few more Austrians at Prague (no offense Amph, I probably would too).

The obvious answer to that is "I can't tell you. Find out next update." There's a nice middle ground between being detrimentally honest and outright lying.
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