[OOC] Primrose Terrace

[Spawnling]

Guess I'll do some Co-Gm stuff *clears throat* Just so you guys know, ViridianHue has final say on everything, so don't think that just because I like/dislike your character you're in/out. However, you should take my suggestions to heart if I point out something that needs to be changed.

Dead Cruiser: Regenerating super strong super fast dude with no outstanding weaknesses. I think you should add a heavier penalty to your guy. I understand the sunlight resistance *else you'd be stuck indoors during any form of daytime RPs* but at the moment, he doesn't have any flaws that can be used against him. He's just a super human with mild garlic allergies, the ability to control 'creatures of the night' which is a broad statement, and shape shifting. Explain the limits of his shape shifting, at the moment it feels way too vague, and if I recall *vamp lore is all over the place depending on where you look* they can only turn into a wolf or flock of bats. Consider something creative like removing the shape shifting or limiting it to only during the night. Instead of regeneration, he can only recover from any wound that doesn't pierce his heart provided he rests on grave-soil or in a coffin or even he's simply a tough human in the day, but at night he's super fast and super strong, so any daytime attacks force him to use weapons or think creatively to survive and keep his charge safe. Put simply, my problem with the CS is that he has nothing that can be used against him, he's just all around powerful.
Also, does he need to drink blood or does the half human part void that?

Redwing and Dead Cruiser: Play nice kids.

Boop_Im_A_Dragon: I like it. You crippled yourself well, but are still a dangerous threat in the proper circumstances. I am deeply saddened that you did not use this for a yokai form picture though

Amazing

Blazion: First off, your human appearance picture is adorable, I love it. Secondly, I LOVE DULLAHANS, thirdly, I don't see any problems with your CS, you have an absolutely crippling weakness if someone gets your head, the gold thing can be used in combat, and the poor visibility makes ambushes a huge threat. However, she's a mounted death rider that can't be held back by locks, so she's still a threat. I think you did well. The bio is fine, though I think you should pull the "Other" part out of the hider, so it can be seen separately.

EDIT: Oh, also I don't think if anyone wants to be a villain they need to join Jaki, they could actively oppose Jaki and still be a villain, could make for interesting turf wars, politics, and alliances of convenience between the three factions depending on which has the upper hand at that moment in time.

EDIT 2: There's still an uncontested spot for tenants and of course, anyone who wants to be a member of staff *chef, bartender, another maid/butler, anything you can think of really*

[Dead Cruiser]

Spawnling said
Dead Cruiser: Regenerating super strong super fast dude with no outstanding weaknesses. I think you should add a heavier penalty to your guy. I understand the sunlight resistance *else you'd be stuck indoors during any form of daytime RPs* but at the moment, he doesn't have any flaws that can be used against him. He's just a super human with mild garlic allergies, the ability to control 'creatures of the night' which is a broad statement, and shape shifting. Explain the limits of his shape shifting, at the moment it feels way too vague, and if I recall *vamp lore is all over the place depending on where you look* they can only turn into a wolf or flock of bats. Consider something creative like removing the shape shifting or limiting it to only during the night. Instead of regeneration, he can only recover from any wound that doesn't pierce his heart provided he rests on grave-soil or in a coffin or even he's simply a tough human in the day, but at night he's super fast and super strong, so any daytime attacks force him to use weapons or think creatively to survive and keep his charge safe. Put simply, my problem with the CS is that he has nothing that can be used against him, he's just all around powerful.Also, does he need to drink blood or does the half human part void that?

Planned alterations for your review:

-Can command primarily nocturnal creatures, or creatures active during the night.
-For shapeshifting, he can assume the full or partial form (partial meaning claws, fangs, etc.) of animals that he can put under his command at any time (bats, wolves, spiders, etc.) , becoming a swarm if his mass requires it. Limited to night time.
-Baseline strength and speed are only slightly above a very powerful human. He can empower himself to full vampiric levels by drinking blood, but abusing this can put him in a frenzy.
-Regeneration remains superhuman, but can still be amplified. Baseline is recovering from a "mortal" wound in a few hours. Empowered is regrowing limbs in seconds.
-Adding a weakness to and phobia of fire. Weaknesses manifest as powers are amplified by blood.
-Potentially adding vampiric stealth and charisma as empowered abilities.

[Spawnling]

-Can command primarily nocturnal creatures, or creatures active during the night.
That works for me.

-For shapeshifting, he can assume the full or partial form (partial meaning claws, fangs, etc.) of animals that he can put under his command at any time (bats, wolves, spiders, etc.) , becoming a swarm if his mass requires it. Limited to night time.
Sounds good.

-Baseline strength and speed are only slightly above a very powerful human. He can empower himself to full vampiric levels by drinking blood, but abusing this can put him in a frenzy.
Looks good. I'm assuming he loses control and the ability to really think intelligently, making him susceptible to tricks when frenzying? Much like a beast?

-Regeneration remains superhuman, but can still be amplified. Baseline is recovering from a "mortal" wound in a few hours. Empowered is regrowing limbs in seconds.
Regrowing a limb in general seems too much, I'm good with the baseline and would prefer to have it where empowered is instead he regenerates major wounds *short of heart piercing and loss of limb* in seconds.
EDIT: Mm, here's another thought, since if he's in a blood frenzy, as the amount of blood he drinks increases, he's tougher to hurt anyway. Ignoring the regeneration *which he still has*, wounds are harder to inflict. It'd could be fun to put him in a situation where he knows he's going to get close to the edge of a frenzy if he keeps going, but he's gotta do it to survive, but doing so could push him to attack the one he's trying to protect anyway.

-Adding a weakness to and phobia of fire. Weaknesses manifest as powers are amplified by blood.
I love this one, the stronger he gets, the weaker he becomes to fire. Very good.

-Potentially adding vampiric stealth and charisma as empowered abilities.
Unnatural stealth to his movements seems fair, especially if his strength is indeed only a bit above a human's. Having him be more ambush than straight up brawler seems appropriate.
Charisma are you talking about physical attractiveness or his mannerisms, because if it's mannerisms, that's entirely up to how you RP and play him off. Something he says could easily trigger something about someone's past or they could simply not find that charismatic.

A strange physical beauty to him would be fine. That's not really a power or weakness, so I don't have any problems with it.

[Boop_Im_A_Dragon]

Spawnling said
Boop_Im_A_Dragon: I like it. You crippled yourself well, but are still a dangerous threat in the proper circumstances. I am deeply saddened that you did not use this for a yokai form picture though

amazing

I know it was such a missed opportunity on my part. If I ever RP as a Basan again I will have to remember that picture. XD

[Dark Angel]

@Spawnling: That chicken looks a lot like the one I drew in fifth grade math class... You stealing my chickens buddy?!

Yay, new peoples! And yes, here in Eugene we have high hippy parties. In the street, in the park, at your great aunt Sally's house. We also have people threatening others with cucumbers.

[Redwing]

Dead Cruiser said
I've altered my CS to something else to avoid conflict. Please be aware in the future of how incredibly obnoxious that lengthy ultimatum happened to be.

Sorry Old Man Spawnling, I can't play super nice here. The best you can hope for it no murder.

Dead Cruiser, martial arts is just that, an art. There is so much more to it than punches and kicks, SO much more. And when people who don't know how to use them, use it for writing, that's all it turns into punches and kicks. If you think I'm going to just sit here and watch what I've dedicated my life to get crapped on by people who don't know what they're talking about. Think again.

You think I care if I sound obnoxious or not? You either like me or you don't, there's no changing that. I don't care what other people think about me. I'm me and nothing is ever going to change that.

[Spawnling]

Stop. I understand being passionate about something, but there's no reason to have an argument in an RP forum. If you really want to argue, take it to Private Messages, this is not the place for it. The matter is dropped, on both sides. Don't bring it up again.

EDIT: Also, Shiinen gives her sincerest apologies for having to drop, she didn't want to, but life is unavoidable.

[Dead Cruiser]

Spawnling: Shin's frenzies would be about what you'd imagine; he essentially loses his higher reasoning and enters a beastial state of "fight or flight," wherein he can only comprehend feeding and his own survival.

I would rather have stronger regeneration than overall durability. Purely to stay truer to my inspirational sources. We could make him no more resilient than a normal person, but with extreme regenerative ability.

The charisma would be partly a strange, inhuman beauty, but I was also thinking of granting him the power to dominate the minds of the weak-willed. Typical "vampire servant" stuff.

[Spawnling]

Dead Cruiser said
Spawnling: Shin's frenzies would be about what you'd imagine; he essentially loses his higher reasoning and enters a beastial state of "fight or flight," wherein he can only comprehend feeding and his own survival.

I love it.

Dead Cruiser said
I would rather have stronger regeneration than overall durability. Purely to stay truer to my inspirational sources. We could make him no more resilient than a normal person, but with extreme regenerative ability.

Hmm...well, the main thing I'm worried about is the regenerating limbs part. How about cauterization, any wounds that are burned shut or cauterized *possibly by acid as well, to give our villain a way to actually be threatening* will regenerate exceedingly slowly. That gives you the potential for being a tough opponent, but also for the enemy to learn from their mistakes and actively challenge you later on.
It's really just the regrowing limbs that throws me, the rest of it I'm fine with.

Dead Cruiser said
The charisma would be partly a strange, inhuman beauty, but I was also thing of granting him the power to dominate the minds of the weak-willed. Typical "vampire servant" stuff.

He's a half vampire, the dominating part throws me for a loop and it also has the potential for removing some challenge to a lot of situations. I'd say maybe he can influence particularly weak willed individuals at best. I personally don't like it but if it's something you REALLY want, I'll leave the final say to Viridian, I won't be upset by it if she allows it or anything. The inhuman beauty I'm totally fine with.

[Invader Len]

Dang, I missed everything! I coulda been online and messing with y'all instead of shaking my fist at the jackasses who decided to spend three hours screaming in the middle of the night. I hope to god they were being picked off one by one by a movie monster, because otherwise they have no damn excuse for the ruckus!

Oooooh, Dullahans! I looooove Dullahans! Well, maybe I just like headless things, but that's not the point!

And yick! All this vampire drama looks cray! I'm just gonna sit outta that one, though I extend my warmest(47 degrees farenheit) welcomes to all the people joining our monster party! Yay!

[Spawnling]

Invader Len said
And yick! All this vampire drama looks cray! I'm just gonna sit outta that one, though I extend my warmest(47 degrees farenheit) welcomes to all the people joining our monster party! Yay!

There is no vampire drama, Dead Cruiser and I are discussing his character, nothing more. It's a back and forth. As I've said before, my opinions are for helping you guys make interesting characters and improve your chances of getting accepted, so EVERYONE can have fun here, and no one feels like they're left out, too weak, or that someone else gets the spotlight too often. I think everyone's characters need flaws and weaknesses so that they're forced to rely on each other, which helps stimulate character interaction and interpersonal relationships, which Viridian has stated is the focus of this RP, not combat.

And I really REALLY hope Dead Cruiser doesn't feel that I'm attacking him or anything, that's not what I'm trying to do at all, so if it comes off as that, I apologize wholeheartedly. I'm just trying to keep things moving smoothly for everyone, and that means keeping ya'll rowdy kids on a level playing field.

Viridian gets final say in all things, and if she says "LET THE VAMPIRE SHOOT LASERS FROM HIS EYES!" then I'll accept that as well.

The minor argument before has been settled, and was nothing to worry about.

[Invader Len]

Ookaay dookaay

So, on a different note, how was everyone's halloween? Did anyone dress up? Get candies? Get horrifically murdered in a cliche b-rate horror movie?

[Blazion]

Spawnling said Blazion: First off, your human appearance picture is adorable, I love it. Secondly, I LOVE DULLAHANS, thirdly, I don't see any problems with your CS, you have an absolutely crippling weakness if someone gets your head, the gold thing can be used in combat, and the poor visibility makes ambushes a huge threat. However, she's a mounted death rider that can't be held back by locks, so she's still a threat. I think you did well. The bio is fine, though I think you should pull the "Other" part out of the hider, so it can be seen separately.

Thanks for the feedback! I guess I worried for nothing (at least until Viridian gets a chance to look!). :P And yes, I didn't mean to put the "other" part in the bio, I just slipped up when doing the coding. Thanks for pointing it out!

Nothing was done for Halloween on this end, though the neighbours did set fireworks off. For two hours.

[Dead Cruiser]

Spawnling said
Hmm...well, the main thing I'm worried about is the regenerating limbs part. How about cauterization, any wounds that are burned shut or cauterized *possibly by acid as well, to give our villain a way to actually be threatening* will regenerate exceedingly slowly. That gives you the potential for being a tough opponent, but also for the enemy to learn from their mistakes and actively challenge you later on.It's really just the regrowing limbs that throws me, the rest of it I'm fine with.

I'm fine with burn wounds healing at a far slower rate. Ties in just fine with his pyrophobia. Perhaps instead a stake in the heart immediately killing him, it halts his regenerative ability until the stake is removed? As far as the limbs go, how does easy reattachment sound? Like he pops em back on as easily as you would on an action figure. Again, only in his "enhanced vampiric" state.

Spawnling said He's a half vampire, the dominating part throws me for a loop and it also has the potential for removing some challenge to a lot of situations. I'd say maybe he can influence particularly weak willed individuals at best. I personally don't like it but if it's something you REALLY want, I'll leave the final say to Viridian, I won't be upset by it if she allows it or anything. The inhuman beauty I'm totally fine with.

Dominance can be cut without much issue from me. It can easily be chalked up as a power exclusive to true vampires.

Spawnling said And I really REALLY hope Dead Cruiser doesn't feel that I'm attacking him or anything, that's not what I'm trying to do at all, so if it comes off as that, I apologize wholeheartedly. I'm just trying to keep things moving smoothly for everyone, and that means keeping ya'll rowdy kids on a level playing field.

Yeah, no, we're good. This is certainly one of the most civil discussions I've had regarding hammering out the specifications of a character's abilities.

Spawnling said Viridian gets final say in all things, and if she says "LET THE VAMPIRE SHOOT LASERS FROM HIS EYES!" then I'll accept that as well.

Vampire laser eyes you say?

[Spawnling]

Dead Cruiser said
Perhaps instead a stake in the heart immediately killing him, it halts his regenerative ability until the stake is removed?

Even a full vamp dies from heart staking, albeit if you get them in the coffin. How does a half vamp survive it?
HOW DO I KILL YOU CRUISER?!

Dead Cruiser said
Yeah, no, we're good. This is certainly one of the most civil discussions I've had regarding hammering out the specifications of a character's abilities.

I feel there is never a good reason to argue with someone about character creation. It should always be an open discussion. :)

Dead Cruiser said
Vampire laser eyes you say?

THAT'S A F*CKING THING!?

[Boop_Im_A_Dragon]

Spawnling said
THAT'S A F*CKING THING!?

I personally find my Vampires incomplete without laser eyes.

[Spawnling]

My life has been a lie.

[Dead Cruiser]

Spawnling said
Even a full vamp dies from heart staking, albeit if you get them in the coffin. How does a half vamp survive it?HOW DO I KILL YOU CRUISER?!

There's a few options... staking him basically makes him as mortal as can be. Fire is a massive weakness, and one that exaggerates as he becomes stronger. I think I'm going to add in an inability to swim... he'll just sink like a rock. He's still quite sensitive to sunlight, though normal-strength sunbeams can't kill him.

Spawnling said THAT'S A F*CKING THING!?

Space Ripper Stingy Eyes aren't normal... but on Jojo's they are.

[Dark Angel]

I have been waiting for a use of this my entire life.
Edit: Ugh, hold on, it's not working.

Edit: There, finally.

CLICK IT

[Spawnling]

Dead Cruiser said
There's a few options... staking him basically makes him as mortal as can be. Fire is a massive weakness, and one that exaggerates as he becomes stronger. I think I'm going to add in an inability to swim... he'll just sink like a rock. He's still quite sensitive to sunlight, though normal-strength sunbeams can't kill him.Space Ripper Stingy Eyes aren't normal... but on they are.

What I mean is that I really REALLY REALLY don't think there's any plausible way for him to survive staking in the heart, neither side of his race has immunity to that. It's one of the cornerstone ways to kill both a vampire and a human, there's no reason for him to suddenly be immune to it.

Also Dark Angel, goddammit.