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EliteCommander said
I'm curious to know how she could be that strong, given that Ssarak's fighting style is entirely strength based, and he is quite strong even by Esyire standards.


Good genes, coupled with three decades of training, and three decades of belligerence.
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Yeah but...that's like a human outmatching a gorilla. It just doesn't seem to make sense to me.
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Yeah but...that's like a human outmatching a gorilla. It just doesn't seem to to me.


You don't have to be stronger, you just have to be smarter. Or more willing to take stupid risks that would pay off. Or willing to cheat. Strength isn't everything.
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You don't have to be stronger, you just have to be smarter. Or more willing to take stupid risks that would pay off. Or willing to cheat. Strength isn't everything.


Agreed completely, but...I still just don't see it. Ssarak trained for strength as well, and he started with a biological advantage.
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Freeshooter92 said
Probably enough to outdo Ssarak in terms of raw power.


You'll have to double check with Fallen on that.
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EliteCommander said
Agreed completely, but...I still just don't see it. Ssarak trained for strength as well, and he started with a biological advantage.


I didn't see Free's post. As I said to him, Fallen is the one who revamped the Esyires, so you'll have to double check with her, but if I'm right about it, Alaira shouldn't be able to simply overpower Ssarak. Hold her own? Yes. She's been fighting for most her life. But in terms of raw power, I don't think so.
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Reread Alaira's bio. Didn't remember that she also hated plants. Maybe she shouldn't meet Coco...
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It doesn't really matter, because Aruna could beat both Ssarak and Alaria in a fight.
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It doesn't really matter, because Aruna could beat both Ssarak and Alaria in a fight.


I'm just more concerned about the raw strength part. With Ssarak, I had always thought, with his race and style of fighting, strength would always be the advantage he is playing on, unless he's going against some giant demon or something. He can't even pretend to compete with most others in terms of agility, and he doesn't have ranged capability. His magic will never be able to directly harm someone, so I had kinda built him with strength in mind. Well, and misdirection, his greatest talent.
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I think that an elf, even one who had trained for decades with the best genes, would have trouble overpowering a fully grown, fully trained Esyire. But Alaria may be able to match him... I dunno, it depends on the GMs
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EliteCommander said
You know what character I would really like to see under the effects of Ssarak's breath? Mar.

Hahahahaa, if you’re really serious and don’t mind waiting EliteCommander… I might have a scene that can allow you to let that scene come true.

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Oh no, any psychomancy effects on Alaira manifest the same; screeching madness. She generally tends to go on a rampage from the pain the psychomantic effects cause her.

*snickers at GM secret…* If you only knew.

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I can't find the Information on the 'Awakened harmony' race.


Any info you need is in Ponders CS…unless there’s another reason you want to know? Something I might not approve of? *raises eyebrow*

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Well, okay, that's the effect if you continue doing it. Most people can stop when they notice the effect it's having, since trying to read Alaira's mind gives you an exceptionally annoying noise instead of thought. However, Ssarak's breath is continuous. He can't just immediately stop it's effect.


Vulnerable to Psychomancy (Though impossible to control, she often breaks down into a gibbering wreck if she can 'feel' someone poking around her mind, and she has an extremely difficult time seeing through illusions)

This was all that was in your sheet. Screaming in your head might not work as a master Psychomancy might just block it off, possibly, and you couldn’t keep that up for long. Not to mention she would be broken down and literally can’t attack during this state of mind. It’s like facing your worst fear that leaves you paralyzed with fear. Lucius might want to verify anything of this…he is the expert after all Freeshooter so what he says goes and should’ve been something you talked to all three, especially him.

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Probably enough to outdo Ssarak in terms of raw power.


No…not at all. Nature AND Genes in real world scream otherwise. Best you can have is stronger than other female Wood Elves…no way she’s stronger than a MALE EYSIRE. By the way, that’s not sexist, that’s facts. Even Mar’s not as strong in raw power as Xyden due to that little fact. Even with the difference of where they lived in mind. She might move better and get more attacks in but once in his coils, he’ll crush all her bones simple as that.

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I didn't see Free's post. As I said to him, Fallen is the one who revamped the Esyires, so you'll have to double check with her, but if I'm right about it, Alaira shouldn't be able to simply overpower Ssarak. Hold her own? Yes. She's been fighting for most her life. But in terms of raw power, I don't think so.


They are slightly stronger than humans, fall short of dwarves though by some and she could hold her own. Beat him in strength…not likely.
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I think Alaira could be stronger than a lot of male wood elves, as women can overpower men if they train their strength more. Of course, if a man and a woman train their strength equal amounts, the man would have the biological advantage.

Between Mar and Xyden, well that would be entirely your choice. For humans, sexual dimorphism places women as generally not having as much muscle, but that isn't the case for all creatures. In this case, the rules on that would be entirely up to you.

As for the concept of drugging Mar...I am interested.

Edit: I reread Xyden's bio, and Sundred mentioned that the coils of the ocean Naga were adapted for swimming instead of constricting, so they aren't as strong as those of the Desert Naga. I think Mar might be able to outmatch him there.
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However, while Ocean Naga coils aren't adapted for constriction, Xyden is a darn sight bigger than Mar and has heightened strength because of the Myrmidon mutation. They are roughly equal on coil strength, but Xydens arms are stronger than the majority of the cast. He will be up there in the top braket of the arm wrestling contest...
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Though it's not something I ought to concern myself with, but you'd think that an Ocean Naga would be more adapt to intense pressure from say, being coiled, given that they live deep in the oceans, which has been known to crush things that dive too deep. Just my thoughts on the matter.

As for the Psychomancy, it'll take more than simply "Yelling" your thoughts to block out anyone reading your mind. It might work for a novice and maybe even a more intermediate, but if they know what they're doing, you could be braindead for all that matters. As long as you're alive, a Psychomancer can potentially enter your mind, absorb all thoughts and knowledge you've amassed, and alter it to their choosing. And unless you're also a Psychomancer or have taken the necessary precaution and training, trying to fight back would almost be futile. You can struggle and you might survive, but you can't win.

Of course, that's only if you have some reason to have a Psychomancer of that level to bother you. Someone of Ssarak's level can't achieve that sort of ability currently, not to say that it's entirely useless. Even putting someone into a frenzy can be useful, so long as Ssarak is willing to capitalize on it.
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Though it's not something I ought to concern myself with, but you'd think that an Ocean Naga would be more adapt to intense pressure from say, being coiled, given that they live deep in the oceans, which has been known to crush things that dive too deep. Just my thoughts on the matter.As for the Psychomancy, it'll take more than simply "Yelling" your thoughts to block out anyone reading your mind. It might work for a novice and maybe even a more intermediate, but if they know what they're doing, you could be braindead for all that matters. As long as you're alive, a Psychomancer can potentially enter your mind, absorb all thoughts and knowledge you've amassed, and alter it to their choosing. And unless you're also a Psychomancer or have taken the necessary precaution and training, trying to fight back would almost be futile. You can struggle and you might survive, but you can't win.Of course, that's only if you have some reason to have a Psychomancer of that level to bother you. Someone of Ssarak's level can't achieve that sort of ability currently, not to say that it's entirely useless. Even putting someone into a frenzy can be useful, so long as Ssarak is willing to capitalize on it.


Eh, he's a pretty peaceful fellow now, not like he used to be. Though I doubt he will ever be able to get away from fighting.
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I think Alaira could be stronger than a lot of male wood elves, as women can overpower men if they train their strength more. Of course, if a man and a woman train their strength equal amounts, the man would have the biological advantage.


True but most of Tiien races follow basic rules that bigger is normally stronger as I'm talking about in terms of pure natural power, no training or anything. Free said it was because of a combo of genetics as well as training. No matter how good Alaira's genes are, there's still that slight fact she's a female so her muscles will have difficulty matching up to the same strength level. Males were built to be aggressive while females tend to be built to be more evasive in Nature itself, they after all carry the young and being built for killing would risk the offspring.

@ Free: I know you likes to show off you characters which while I like pride in your characters, you have to take in consideration as well as Alaira's personality. She likes to sport fights on purpose, sometimes just attacking or outright provoking. With most PCs like this, it's best if they can't defeat everyone as it tends to ease the ability to contain them and force them to pick and choose their fights wisely. So while I might allow what Elite said about being stronger then most male Wood Elves, I can't allow her be a pure powerhouse against all none masters at least. Even with training. The fun of these PCs is their strengths and weakness, the later a greater enjoyment then the first.

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Between Mar and Xyden, well that would be entirely your choice. For humans, sexual dimorphism places women as generally not having as much muscle, but that isn't the case for all creatures. In this case, the rules on that would be entirely up to you.


EliteCommander said Edit: I reread Xyden's bio, and Sundred mentioned that the coils of the ocean Naga were adapted for swimming instead of constricting, so they aren't as strong as those of the Desert Naga. I think Mar might be able to outmatch him there.


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However, while Ocean Naga coils aren't adapted for constriction, Xyden is a darn sight bigger than Mar and has heightened strength because of the Myrmidon mutation. They are roughly equal on coil strength, but Xydens arms are stronger than the majority of the cast. He will be up there in the top braket of the arm wrestling contest...


^This...answers your question. :p Female Huntress for his race, maybe and likely. Xyden, no way in hell. And never thought about that Lucius, thank you for that which again re-enforces that belief.

EliteCommander said As for the concept of drugging Mar...I am interested.


I might use you to help...Mar and Athalus along then. It will be fun and rather interesting to see how Ssarak reacts when Mar gets a little snippy over it, hahaa. XD
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I might use you to help...Mar and Athalus along then. It will be fun and rather interesting to see how Ssarak reacts when Mar gets a little snippy over it, hahaa. XD


Sounds interesting. I can only imagine how this is going to work out.

Also, while I'm thinking of it, what are female Esyire like in terms of a physical description? And do they give live birth?
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EliteCommander said
Sounds interesting. I can only imagine how this is going to work out.Also, while I'm thinking of it, what are female Esyire like in terms of a physical description? And do they give live birth?


In Khan's description it was Eggs. It makes rather a lot of sense for many reasons. One it allows the baby to be moved due to the landscape's shifting while it farther protect the mother and child from the radiation.

Edit: As for physical descriptions, they look like their male counter part only slightly more elegant and feminine. Namely slightly smaller in size and lighter built.
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