Mahz's Dev Journal

[The Nexerus]

The description for the Casual Roleplay section specifies that posts should be a paragraph or two. The description for the Free Roleplay section specifies that posts can be one-liners. If your roleplay's IC section is mostly one-liners, it belongs in Free and not in Casual. This is a super fucking easy concept.

[Etcetera]

@The Nexerus

Please keep the attitude and discussion civil. To quote the descriptions,

"For roleplaying involving one-liners, few-liners, speed-posting, and for anyone who doesn't want to have to worry about standards. See individual GM for RP specific standards"

"Roleplay here if you enjoy writing at least a paragraph or two, character development, and some depth. Grammar and spelling are encouraged. Generally one paragraph (a few sentences) per post. See individual GM for RP specific standards"

There's a lot more going on here than simple post length; that is one piece of several. I'd also like to add that while I don't particularly subscribe to the notion that Advanced RPers are obnoxious (I don't particularly pay attention to the politics/perceived classes but on the site), the best way to fight the notion people have that it exists would be to show kindness/peace/respect to all people on the Guild, irrespective of where they choose to post. Each of us can only do our part to accomplish that.

[The Nexerus]

There's a lot more going on here than simple post length; that is one piece of several.

@Etcetera

That really isn't true.

For roleplaying involving one-liners, few-liners, speed-posting,

"One-liners, few-liners, and speed-posting" are all referring to the same thing, @Etcetera. If your roleplay has really small IC posts, it's meant to be posted in Free. The only other distinct part of the description of the section is, "and for anyone who doesn't want to have to worry about standards"—which you don't need to be upset over because GMs can have their own standards for what application does and does not get accepted.

The primary distinguishing factor of the three sections is post length, full stop. Advanced RPs have more in-depth plots, character development and extensive settings simply because there is more room to establish all of that when posts have more content. Roleplays with IC sections that consist of one liners definitely do not belong in Advanced and are most fitting of all in Free. That they exist in Casual is tenuous, but I guess if half of Casual is going to call itself "High Casual", there can be a Low Casual too.

[Etcetera]

@The Nexerus

My biggest issue with your argument is the fact that this
"The primary distinguishing factor of the three sections is post length, full stop."
Is totally arbitrary and based on how you believe RPG ought to be run. As a whole, there is nothing that makes character development or story depth any less important than post length. I'm personally of the opinion that if an RP requires a higher level of skill to participate, it belongs in a higher category as they're not divided. I would totally agree with you if they were divided in terms of post length exclusively, but if that were the deciding favor, the names/descriptions would not be what they are.

[Ruby]

In my near decade here at the Guild I've never seen a RP moved because it didn't meet whatever criteria.

It's just never been policed, that I can recall, and policing such a thing would seem to go against the spirit of what Mahz had in mind when he founded the Guild.

Definitely not an issue to get too worked up about.

[Dion]

Policing it seems like a bad move both because it gives people the idea that they need to meet certain criteria in their hobby. People write for fun, not to strike their ego (well, I do, but that is besides the point) so I doubt many people are interested in getting a list of..

your post needs to be this and this, and if it is not, we will move it to a 'lower' tier of writing.

That aside it's also just a shit tonne of work. We don't have 20.000 RP's a day, but there are a lot of new RP's springing up at all times. And to be fair, I'd also not really be looking forward to moderating the RP's and their criteria just because that'd mean I'd have to sift through horrid roleplays that tend to pop up in certain sections.

The only RP section I'd moderate, even now, is 1x1, purely because there's been some stuff posted there that really skirts the lines or sometimes blatantly breaks the rules.

But besides logistical reasons for changing the descriptions, I think it'd also be nice to refresh the RPG frontpage from time to time. Reworking some of the wording, changing the looks of certain buttons, etcetera. Seems like a simple way to breathe life into the site, even if it might not need it. But we didn't need a PM deletion system, we just really wanted it.

[The Nexerus]

@Etcetera The first thing mentioned in every description of every one of the three main sections is post-length. It is not my own subjective judgment that has decreed that post length is the primary distinguishing factor of the sections, but rather both the section descriptions themselves and the entire collective consciousness of every member of RPG who is not named Etcetera.

If an RP's IC section is one-liners, it's a Free RP. If that same RP is posted in Casual, it's a Free RP posted in Casual.

[Etcetera]

@The Nexerus

You're arbitrarily assigning order to importance. If "In-depth story" were the first item on that list, would you then make that the deciding factor? I'm under the impression that you would still turn to post length for whatever reason, be it that it is quantifiable, or perhaps that you equate length to effort, or perhaps another reason entirely. However, at the end of the day, there are more descriptors than post length for a reason.

[The Nexerus]

@Etcetera If you are still very passassionate about defending one-liners in the Casual section, you're free to PM me all of your reasoned and entirely non-emotional arguments. In the mean time, we should stop filling up this thread with tangential chatter.

I think it'd also be nice to refresh the RPG frontpage from time to time. Reworking some of the wording, changing the looks of certain buttons, etcetera. Seems like a simple way to breathe life into the site, even if it might not need it.

@Odin

All of your proposed new names and descriptions for RP sections will be interpreted exactly the same as the old names and descriptions. So, I find it difficult to really care other than to say I don't think there's a point.

People will probably even continue using the old names. I for one would find it much clearer to refer to the middle of the three roleplay sections as the Casual section rather than the 'Roleplay' section.

"Hmm, so which of the three roleplay sections should I post this roleplay in?"

"I know! Post it in the Roleplay roleplay section!"

"Genius. Why didn't I think of that?"

[Dion]

@The Nexerus although that is a fair comment, I like to think it still stands a step above policing what RP's go where, lol.

[Lady Absinthia]

Is there any way we could get it to where if we have our account set up to hide avatars and signatures it extends to actually work in pm's as well?

[Ellri]

PMs utilize a different template for posts. But only @mahz can say if that element is readily transferable.

[Mahz]

Hey everyone, I'm back.

I have some low priority pushes to make like updating the homepage. But I'm also gearing up for a platform upgrade in the Guild's underlying software stack.

I'll have to read the last 100 posts in this thread or so to remember where I was at mentally before my break. I have a dozen work-in-progress features on my computer and I don't remember which one is the closest to being done.

If I recall correctly, the email system was my main priority before I had to leave.

I'll be on Discord tonight so feel free to PM me even if I'm offline.

[skidcrow]

heyyyyyy mahz wasssuuuuppppppp

*finger guns*

[AlteredTundra]

@Mahz F-Father! I-Is that you?

[Caster]

Hey, so. Not sure how to go about this, but I'm noticing that the remember me button isn't clicking and i keep getting signed out.

[DeadDrop]

Allfather.

[skidcrow]

Hey, so. Not sure how to go about this, but I'm noticing that the remember me button isn't clicking and i keep getting signed out.

@Caster

do you browse on a mobile?

[Dion]

@Mahz F-Father! I-Is that you?

@Altered Tundra

we don't talk about mahz' fathering skills my dude remember that