[OOC] Heroes of Beacon - the Next Chapter

[Silvan Haven]

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Did you cite that quote? We need a proper MLA citation.

@Onarax

I may have...borrowed it from a friend.

[Lady Seraphina]

Ebon would still try to move out of it, though he would need to use his semblance and throw The Kingdom and himself out of that sticky situation.

@Ryonara

I'm not saying it's unavoidable but it'll cost him a defensible position to stay on land. If I were him I'd take the fall, use the R-Types to slow the decent and swim to a shallower part of the lake, avoid further punishment but I doubt I'd have Sapphire do that in your situation.

[Ryonara]

Like I said, Ebon is good at what he does. I chose his powers and abilities so he excels at what he should be doing, even if he doesn't do it properly himself. Even so I've already nerfed his telekinesis and telepathy to the point that they're only good for himself. he can't use his telepathy to read someone else mind unless they're not fighting (Allowing him to work without duress) and his telekinesis is what allows him to use his R-Types in the first place. His shield allows him to carry his drones and gives him something to work with when the enemy inevitably gets passed his drones. And the R-Types themselves I chose specifically because no one else uses a weapon like them. Instead of trying to be skilled with one weapon, Ebon's strategy is overwhelming you with many smaller ones.

What do you think I should do with him? Remove his R-Types, leaving him to bash people with his shield? His telekinesis, so I'll have to make up some other reason why he can control his R-Types? His telepathy, so he can't use his R-Types without constantly having them in sight and removing their function as scouting tools?

And while you're critiquing Ebon, maybe you should look through the CS and give everyone else a look too. I'm sure Ebon isn't the only one that managed to slip under the radar.

[Onarax]

Powers aren't all or nothing.

There's a vast degree of difference between 100 laser bees and 0 laser bees.

[Ryonara]

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I'm not saying it's unavoidable but it'll cost him a defensible position to stay on land. If I were him I'd take the fall, use the R-Types to slow the decent and swim to a shallower part of the lake, avoid further punishment but I doubt I'd have Sapphire do that in your situation.

@Prince of Seraphs

Ebon doesn't intend to run from this fight. Unless someone breaks it up, he's expecting to either be defeated or win.

[Eklispe]

Ebon is kinda getting the megamicroscope here.

[harinezumikouken]

@SevenStormStyle I feel like such an idiot. How did it take me this long to finally realize the person in your signature is Medusa from Soul Eater? How?! How did it take me this long?!

@Guess Who

[Onarax]

Anyone else wonder if Beacon has Zero Tolerance?

Although I suppose food fights must be exempted.

[Lucius Cypher]

Well, it is a school with students armed to the teeth with weapons that could shred through conventional armor and take down giant enemies. I figured temper tantrums like this isn't exactly uncommon.

Btw Ryo, mind if I throw Ebon away from the cliff, both to save him from taking a drink and to put Gren in a position to talk him down?

[Ryonara]

Sure, whatever. By popular vote I think Ebon's going to lose this fight anyways.

[Lady Seraphina]

Like I said, Ebon is good at what he does. I chose his powers and abilities so he excels at what he should be doing, even if he doesn't do it properly himself. Even so I've already nerfed his telekinesis and telepathy to the point that they're only good for himself. he can't use his telepathy to read someone else mind unless they're not fighting (Allowing him to work without duress) and his telekinesis is what allows him to use his R-Types in the first place. His shield allows him to carry his drones and gives him something to work with when the enemy inevitably gets passed his drones. And the R-Types themselves I chose specifically because no one else uses a weapon like them. Instead of trying to be skilled with one weapon, Ebon's strategy is overwhelming you with many smaller ones.

What do you think I should do with him? Remove his R-Types, leaving him to bash people with his shield? His telekinesis, so I'll have to make up some other reason why he can control his R-Types? His telepathy, so he can't use his R-Types without constantly having them in sight and removing their function as scouting tools?

And while you're critiquing Ebon, maybe you should look through the CS and give everyone else a look too. I'm sure Ebon isn't the only one that managed to slip under the radar.

@Ryonara

I'm not saying stripe him of all the powers he has, I'm saying reduce there level of ability.

I know in a roleplay, especially one that has twenty plus characters there is pressure to distinguish yourself and be unique. You don't want to be just another character that might be easily forgotten if you dropped out (I know I've forgotten the less memorable of our drop outs). You want to be noticed and have your own thing separate from everyone else.

Bearing that in mind I should tell you that Ebon isn't our first drone user. One of The Originals from back when the RP was still GMed by Irish Tree was a drone user. I believe his name was Ineko. The point is that there is no such thing as a new idea so really just come up with what you like and distinguish yourself by your character's actions not by how much ass he can kick.

If I were you with regards to Ebon's abilities, I'd keep the Kingdom but limit Ebon to four R-Types. Each with a slightly different functionality. This ensures that while they are valuable weapons they are not disposable. Also so that they are not totally reliant on him, give the R-Types a self propulsion system, granting them some level of freedom even if he is actively commanding them. As a plot point he can also be shown to be tinkering with the R-Types and improving them, rather than just having: "This one designed for this and oh I have a new one that does this".

Instead of using Telekinesis to control them and Telepathy to watch there movements give Ebon some sort of heads up display, perhaps a visor that shows him what the R-Types are doing, if he's watching there movements with telepathy now he's already used to multi focus during battles. As for his semblance, rather than giving him telepathy and telekinesis give him either technopathy, or technokinesis. Your semblance you have essentially for the purpose of controlling the R-Types (whatever other fringe benefits they may offer) so either he could have technokinesis and be capable of controlling them with his semblance just like before or give the R-Types some sort of rudimentary AI which he can interface and instruct with technopathy.

Just as Onarax said there are levels of power, just cause the general consensus is that he is overpowered does not mean that you have to completely and totally strip him of the things that people consider a problem at the moment.

[Lugubrious]

By virtue of potentially three against one, I'd rather thank.

I spoke with Ryo in PM. Ebon's power has been nerfed to the degree that his telekinesis doesn't work on living things unless they're completely vulnerable, and his telepathy doesn't work unless he's both focused and his opponent's mind isn't excited by battle. When fighting, he essentially has his shield and his drones, and little else. This should not make him overpowered.

[Lady Seraphina]

Btw Ryo, mind if I throw Ebon away from the cliff, both to save him from taking a drink and to put Gren in a position to talk him down?

@Lucius Cypher

Hey! I thought you were on my team.

[Silvan Haven]

Like I said, Ebon is good at what he does. I chose his powers and abilities so he excels at what he should be doing, even if he doesn't do it properly himself. Even so I've already nerfed his telekinesis and telepathy to the point that they're only good for himself. he can't use his telepathy to read someone else mind unless they're not fighting (Allowing him to work without duress) and his telekinesis is what allows him to use his R-Types in the first place. His shield allows him to carry his drones and gives him something to work with when the enemy inevitably gets passed his drones. And the R-Types themselves I chose specifically because no one else uses a weapon like them. Instead of trying to be skilled with one weapon, Ebon's strategy is overwhelming you with many smaller ones.

What do you think I should do with him? Remove his R-Types, leaving him to bash people with his shield? His telekinesis, so I'll have to make up some other reason why he can control his R-Types? His telepathy, so he can't use his R-Types without constantly having them in sight and removing their function as scouting tools?

And while you're critiquing Ebon, maybe you should look through the CS and give everyone else a look too. I'm sure Ebon isn't the only one that managed to slip under the radar.

@Ryonara

he can't use his telepathy to read someone else mind unless they're not fighting

You could try putting this in his profile instead of the "Reads the minds of everybody around him in an instant." that is currently there.

You could also change how many drones he has in his shield. Even with Remnant's crazy folding tech you are not going to fit a hundred of those things on there. Certainly not while keeping it usable as a shield.

And you could totally get rid of his telekinesis and still use the drones. Just say that they have a built in propulsion system and are told what to do via his telepathy.

[Lucius Cypher]

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Hey! I thought you were on my team.

@Prince of Seraphs

I am, this is part of Gren's plan to get Ebon on his side in case winning Sapphire over doesn't pan out. Not that he isn't trying to get on her good side either; no reason he can't have both.

[Lady Seraphina]

I am, this is part of Gren's plan to get Ebon on his side in case winning Sapphire over doesn't pan out. Not that he isn't trying to get on her good side either; no reason he can't have both.

@Lucius Cypher

They hate each other and he's trying to get on both there good sides at the same time and in the same location. That would be a reason he can't have both. He is effectively sabotaging Sapphire to endear himself to Ebon and sabotaging Ebon to endear himself to Sapphire while both are standing right next to each other.

[Lucius Cypher]

I mean, he's still on Sapphire's side if only because Ebon made the mistake of talking trash about Shiro too. In a sense I'm making Gren offer hand to Ebon with on hand, while aiming a gun at him with the other. Diplomacy 101: "It's saying 'Good boy' until you can find a big rock."

[Silvan Haven]

I thought Diplomacy 101 was "Speak softly and carry a big stick?"

[Onarax]

Isn't Diplomacy 101: "Put all points in charisma, train skill."

[Ryonara]

Ebon's weapons are built around his Semblance, not the other way around. The fact they're Drones just gives him a bit more versatility then "Throw things at the enemy" that most telekinetic users do. His semblance is also suppose to be an aspect of his personality: He's not a techy person and has no interest in machines. He's the kind of person who doesn't want people touching him, but he wants to affect them. He's the type of guy who'll get into your head and leave a nasty memory behind.

As for his R-Types they're suppose to be disposable drones with some unique features: They represent his tendency to use others for what they can do, rather than what they are.

At this point I'm not sure what to do with Ebon, since it's painfully obvious everyone wants me to change him. But changing his semblance changes his personality, or at least gives a very strange semblance for someone who has no greater interest in customizing his equipment beyond whatever is available to him. If I do limit his R-Types I do intend to make his R-Types much harder to take down that "Just shoot them".