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Hidden 9 yrs ago Post by Lucius Cypher
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I thought Diplomacy 101 was "Speak softly and carry a big stick?"


Basically what I meant to say. I was paraphrasing Grunt from ME2.

Isn't Diplomacy 101: "Put all points in charisma, train skill."


Gren's more the type who'd chose feats or skills that allows him to use other stats for talking skills instead of Charisma, like INT for Bluff or Diplomacy and STR for Intimate.
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Ebon's weapons are built around his Semblance, not the other way around. The fact they're Drones just gives him a bit more versatility then "Throw things at the enemy" that most telekinetic users do. His semblance is also suppose to be an aspect of his personality: He's not a techy person and has no interest in machines. He's the kind of person who doesn't want people touching him, but he wants to affect them. He's the type of guy who'll get into your head and leave a nasty memory behind.

As for his R-Types they're suppose to be disposable drones with some unique features: They represent his tendency to use others for what they can do, rather than what they are.

At this point I'm not sure what to do with Ebon, since it's painfully obvious everyone wants me to change him. But changing his semblance changes his personality, or at least gives a very strange semblance for someone who has no greater interest in customizing his equipment beyond whatever is available to him. If I do limit his R-Types I do intend to make his R-Types much harder to take down that "Just shoot them".


Then let this moment be a big turning point for Ebon. I can have Gren take his shield and throw it into the lake. He'll lose The Kingdom and all his R-types, forcing him to start back from zero. Then Ebon would either need to wise up and ask for help from his teams, or he can undergo his own start of darkness and recreate himself into a villain.
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That sounds like an even worse idea Lucius.
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Just my two cents Ryo. If anything I think you should remove the telepathy semblance. I don't even know how that applies to your machines and I think having a two-for-one deal with Semblances is already a pretty big deal. I got myself into trouble at some point just because Gren could make the ground both slick or sticky, while Ebon obviously has two different and loosely connected semblances.
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@Lugubrious I'm not sure I have the time to antagonize a mission. I am glad to stay in this as is on top of the 1x1s I have. I'll do it if noone else is available, but be advised most of my free time is reduced to Friday afternoon and weekends GMT+1.
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Ebon's weapons are built around his Semblance, not the other way around. The fact they're Drones just gives him a bit more versatility then "Throw things at the enemy" that most telekinetic users do. His semblance is also suppose to be an aspect of his personality: He's not a techy person and has no interest in machines. He's the kind of person who doesn't want people touching him, but he wants to affect them. He's the type of guy who'll get into your head and leave a nasty memory behind.

As for his R-Types they're suppose to be disposable drones with some unique features: They represent his tendency to use others for what they can do, rather than what they are.

At this point I'm not sure what to do with Ebon, since it's painfully obvious everyone wants me to change him. But changing his semblance changes his personality, or at least gives a very strange semblance for someone who has no greater interest in customizing his equipment beyond whatever is available to him. If I do limit his R-Types I do intend to make his R-Types much harder to take down that "Just shoot them".
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Generally speaking a semblance is supposed to aid in a huntsman's fighting style, not be the fighting style. Now obviously I'm not you and I'm not making your particular character choices but this might be something to keep in mind. Aura has been around for as long as humanity, criminals have been constantly using it and getting bested by hunters who use it. So you have to imagine that at some point someone has figured out a way to negate it. I'm not saying this as a definite but it wouldn't surprise me if at some point we end up in a situation where aura and by extension semblances won't function. That'll be a loss to most characters but to someone like Ebon it would be a complete disaster as his entire fighting style is based around his semblance.

If I may ask, Ebon's R-Types were obviously designed to work specifically for him for his own purposes given how they only operate when exposed to his semblance so if he has no engineering expertise whatsoever where did the R-Types and indeed the Kingdom come from? Both are marvelous feets of engineering (if a bit limited given there reliance on Ebon to function). I don't see a way someone else could understand Ebon's semblance so completely that they could construct an entire weapons system to function with it so if Ebon didn't design his weapons himself were did they come from?

I appreciate the work and symbolism that you attach to Ebon's weapons. I think it is well thought out but if the only reason that you are refusing to change them is because they correlate to a certain personality trait maybe you should take another look at your character. Weapons would of course be a personal choice and obviously reflect the character of the ones who wield them but while that symbolism is nice to have it shouldn't be the focus of having these weapons. The Focus of the weapons should be fighting with them. The R-Types could very easily be self sufficient drones there is no explicit reason why they would need a semblance to make them function.
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All this talk of semblances just gave me an idea for my own character's semblance. Back when I was first creating Robert, I wasn't really putting much thought into what his semblance should be, I just knew that I didn't want him to have some kind of generic power (like shoots fireballs or has super strength). Heck, when I finally did come up with his semblance I didn't even think of any possible way it connected to an aspect of his character like semblances are supposed to. So reading all this discussion in the OOC makes me think, "Why don't I change it? It's not like it'd be that hard, he hasn't even discovered it anyway." And I just thought of the perfect power while randomly reading one of my old Spider-Man comics. Why not something similar to Black Cat's power (For those unfamiliar: "This power enabled her subliminally and psionically to affect probability fields, causing improbable, but not impossible, "unlucky" events to occur to enemies within her line of sight.") So why hasn't he discovered this ability yet? Why aren't enemies he's fighting constantly slipping on banana peels and getting crushed by oversized safes like a character from Loony Tunes? Because he doesn't realize that he's using his own semblance on himself. What do you think @Lugubrious? Good idea? Bad idea?
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@Guess Who Just going to put this out there but probability control can be a risky thing to work with. Not saying it's a bad idea just be careful, since it's such and undefined field it is open to an impossible number of interpretations which could go south very quickly. I trust you'd handle it well but it's something you have to watch out for cause in the wrong set of circumstances it can be the ultimate ability, which is generally not a good thing.
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One of these days, I'll get around to retooling Luke's semblance into something that falls more in line with how this aura shit is supposed to work.
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@Guess Who What's wrong with sound wave manipulation? I thought the disorientating effects it has on others would be a reflection of Robert's own clumsiness both mentally and physically.

If I'm being honest while I might not always be happy with the power level of Sapphire's semblance I think I sort of nailed it with how it relates to her personality. A girl that wants to shut out the world and never let anyone see the real her has the power to avoid being perceived.
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@Guess Who Just going to put this out there but probability control can be a risky thing to work with. Not saying it's a bad idea just be careful, since it's such and undefined field it is open to an impossible number of interpretations which could go south very quickly. I trust you'd handle it well but it's something you have to watch out for cause in the wrong set of circumstances it can be the ultimate ability, which is generally not a good thing.


Yeah, I know what you mean. We wouldn't want a Avengers Disassembled or House of M-style event happen (fingers crossed that you've read at least one of those books and understand what I'm saying). Still, I think it's nerfed enough with having it based on line of sight and only allowing it to create improbable circumstances.

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@Guess Who What's wrong with sound wave manipulation? I thought the disorientating effects it has on others would be a reflection of Robert's own clumsiness both mentally and physically.

If I'm being honest while I might not always be happy with the power level of Sapphire's semblance I think I sort of nailed it with how it relates to her personality. A girl that wants to shut out the world and never let anyone see the real her has the power to avoid being perceived.


I don't know. It just feels so half-assed to me and the connection to his character feels stretched, personally.
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<Snipped quote by Ryonara>
Generally speaking a semblance is supposed to aid in a huntsman's fighting style, not be the fighting style. Now obviously I'm not you and I'm not making your particular character choices but this might be something to keep in mind. Aura has been around for as long as humanity, criminals have been constantly using it and getting bested by hunters who use it. So you have to imagine that at some point someone has figured out a way to negate it. I'm not saying this as a definite but it wouldn't surprise me if at some point we end up in a situation where aura and by extension semblances won't function. That'll be a loss to most characters but to someone like Ebon it would be a complete disaster as his entire fighting style is based around his semblance.

If I may ask, Ebon's R-Types were obviously designed to work specifically for him for his own purposes given how they only operate when exposed to his semblance so if he has no engineering expertise whatsoever where did the R-Types and indeed the Kingdom come from? Both are marvelous feets of engineering (if a bit limited given there reliance on Ebon to function). I don't see a way someone else could understand Ebon's semblance so completely that they could construct an entire weapons system to function with it so if Ebon didn't design his weapons himself were did they come from?

I appreciate the work and symbolism that you attach to Ebon's weapons. I think it is well thought out but if the only reason that you are refusing to change them is because they correlate to a certain personality trait maybe you should take another look at your character. Weapons would of course be a personal choice and obviously reflect the character of the ones who wield them but while that symbolism is nice to have it shouldn't be the focus of having these weapons. The Focus of the weapons should be fighting with them. The R-Types could very easily be self sufficient drones there is no explicit reason why they would need a semblance to make them function.


I'll take that risk. If nothing else that's one sure fire way to shut down Ebon if anyone needs to make a hard counter against him. Though didn't you make a character who's semblance is essentially an anti-semblance anyways?

Ebon did attend Signal and would have designed his weapons there. He knew enough to make the R-Type and the Kingdom, but he wouldn't have gotten all too interested in tricking them out. He built the R-Type first, and created the Kingdom after he figured out how to make R-Types. If a machine could create and measure Aura, there would likely be machines that can react to one's semblance. Ebon did design his weapons himself, and generally speaking they should be unique to him. But that doesn't mean he has any fanatical interest in them that would manifest itself as a technopathy semblance. To him everyone is a tool, not just his weapons.

At this point I guess there's nothing else to do but make his semblance into drones. But the reason he uses telekinesis in the first place is because he's possessive: he's the kind of person who doesn't want his kids to ever leave him and grow independent. To reveal more about Ebon's past, he used to be an orphan. He made the mistake of trying to call the other orphaned kids his family: They got adopted when he didn't, and they would later forget about him. He tried to keep the others kids to stay with him, but they kept getting families while he stayed behind. When his orphanage caught on fire, Ebon was content to die in the orphanage with the other kids, who were begging him to help him somehow. He survived however, thanks to the other kids who gathered around him. They shielded him from the worse of the fire.

This twisted him: One on hand he wants to take care of people he calls his friends. But now he doesn't want them to ever leave him alone. But he hates the idea that they won't be faithful, and thus he challenges them to make the effort to befriend him. Obviously Ebon isn't right in the head, and his weapons reflect that. He doesn't want anyone to be able to use his weapons; they're his weapons, and they ought to be usable in his hands only. Making them reliant on his telekinetic Semblance was one way he did this. That's the reason why I've been trying so hard to keep his semblance as it was. But I guess now he'll just have some other reason to justify why he uses drones.
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I'm gunna go to bed, but not before leaving behind a lil something something.

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I'm gunna go to bed, but not before leaving behind a lil something something.



One Punch Man is looking pretty good so far.
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@Lugubrious You know, I'm preeeeeeeeeeeettttty sure that we of VGNB sent you a mission for you to approve, and that's the mission we're still planning on doing.
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@SevenStormStyle I feel like such an idiot. How did it take me this long to finally realize the person in your signature is Medusa from Soul Eater? How?! How did it take me this long?!


I suppose the more 3d art style is a bit misleading. : )
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Apparently the anime of Soul Eater is pretty bad compared to the manga, according to my brother, the most massive anime nerd I know.
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Apparently the anime of Soul Eater is pretty bad compared to the manga, according to my brother, the most massive anime nerd I know.


Soul Eater was amusing, it wasn't outright bad. Just, like most, had a rather poor ending.
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It's like being a sub fan; you may have a point, but it's not bad enough to warrent being a d***.
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