[OOC] The Hot Headed, Heavy Hitters, Have it Out (Fury vs Kanitah, Round 2)

[MelonHead]

Kanitah doesn't have any control over the legs, he's exerting pressure from outside, literally it's just Fury's own hooking position that would limit his ability to escape, which means he's free unless Kanitah has the ability to stop him from flying out of the grip because Fury's feet are hooked angling downwards and outside, flying up would allow them to easily escape (especially as his feet would just naturally turn, abandoning the hook, when he did this.) (I'm not sure there's any physical way Kanitah could stop him, other than trying to lift his legs up and catch Fury like a crab or something.) But it's highly unlikely Kanitah would have chance to react to Fury suddenly not being there in that way, the weakside to exerting a lot of strength to an action (like forcing open a door with shoulder barges for example) is that when someone suddenly abandons all their resistance, your momentum carries you with an unexpected lurch.

[MelonHead]

So just so I have this right, Kanitah is facing upwards when he uses his freedom of movement to kick himself away from underneath Fury? Is Fury's arm still loosely around his neck at this point? (as I said, Fury would allow his arm to go loose to give Kanitah freedom to roll, but it would still be loosely around his neck to aid in reinstating the choke.)

[LeeRoy]

Yes, but as a courtesy to you, I cannot recommend attempting to reinstate your grapple.

[MelonHead]

Kanitah is still facing upwards though? So is there anything in particular stopping Fury from just following him using his ability to fly? Not sure how this would necessarily change anything.

[LeeRoy]

Positioning of arms and legs has shifted, if you wish to do it, go ahead I won't stop you. But I cannot recommend it.

[MelonHead]

Alright, I guess I'll do something else, Fury has most of his options available now with the energy he drained.

[MelonHead]

I don't mind as such, but what Fury was doing was hardly piteously obvious, your opponent suddenly relinquishing a hold and using their ability to fly is hardly combat 101, especially as Kanitah's own momentum really should have caused him to roll before he could stop himself.

wait, what do you mean when you're saying Kanitah is looking over his right shoulder at Fury, is he on his belly/hands and knees or on his back?

[LeeRoy]

Can you not stop rolling sideways? Because I can, it's fundamental in knowing how to fight on the ground. And unless I was going at like 120 mph, the momentum is pretty easily overcome by just tensing up your core and planting one foot to the ground.

Also, flying overhead to get behind him. Is the obvious bit.

On his shoulder, he stopped mid roll.

[MelonHead]

Can you not stop rolling sideways? Because I can, it's fundamental in knowing how to fight on the ground. And unless I was going at like 120 mph, the momentum is pretty easily overcome by just tensing up your core and planting one foot to the ground.

Also, flying overhead to get behind him. Is the obvious bit.

On his shoulder, he stopped mid roll.

@LeeRoy

Yes, you can stop yourself from rolling over usually, but I can't stop myself rolling if I've decided to roll down a hill for example, considering Kanitah was bucking fairly wildly to try and overcome Fury's -significant- strength, I think it would be fair to say he was exerting a large amount of effort into the roll.

That, coupled with the sudden and IMO unexpected movement of Fury suddenly releasing his resistance, meant that Kanitah had to react to Fury suddenly not being present and then recognise what Fury was doing, neither I think would be easy to realise just before your momentum threw you over. Kanitah does have insane reflexes though, so I suppose I can't question it if you say he can realise that quickly what was happening and react.

I'm not going to contest the rolling situation because I don't fully understand what's going on, and a reset isn't that big a deal for Fury now as I said he's got some energy to fight effectively with again.

[LeeRoy]

I kind of stopped writing in what Kanitah had as a reflex speed, though it was around 15x human reflexes. I stopped writing it in when I realized pretty much everyone just sort of had hyper reflexes no matter what tier they were.

[MelonHead]

I always try and say how fast my characters can react, fifteen times human peak is incredibly fast reflexes, you're talking taking in a situation and being able to react to it with actual thought and considering in what would seem like the exact same moment to an ordinary human. (This is different to humans, who react fast in fights particularly due to muscle memory, which means they don't have to think about what they're doing.)

[MelonHead]

I like the idea that Kanitah is talking to Fury to distract him as his slowly shuffles away, like something out of a cartoon.

[LeeRoy]

I like the idea that Kanitah is talking to Fury to distract him as his slowly shuffles away, like something out of a cartoon.

@MelonHead

It's more of a nervous shuffle as he comes up with some kind of hapless plan.

[MelonHead]

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It's more of a nervous shuffle as he comes up with some kind of hapless plan.

@LeeRoy

Throw dirt at Fury's face, third times a charm.

[LeeRoy]

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Throw dirt at Fury's face, third times a charm.

@MelonHead

I know right? Kinda wish it had worked better the first time.

[LeeRoy]

@MelonHead
Actually dreamed about this fight last night, was a fucking baller dream.

[MelonHead]

@MelonHead
Actually dreamed about this fight last night, was a fucking baller dream.

@LeeRoy

That's when you realise you're invested almost too much

[LeeRoy]

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That's when you realise you're invested almost too much

@MelonHead

The key word is "almost"

[MelonHead]

It's worth pointing out that Fury's beam attack was launched under-arm, it is certainly not any sort of conventional strike so deflecting the arm would be difficult, you'd have to reach quite far forward and your target would be small and brief, he doesn't need to extend his hand into any sort of strike after all, just point it at Kanitah and let energy do the rest.

[LeeRoy]

I understand that, however, Fury moved towards Kanitah with his right arm extended and then immediately followed with the underarm strike.