[OOC] The Truth Behind the Project

[KoL]

Ok, my part is done too, everyone is free to cry now.

[Ariamis]

Interesting. I guess you can now focus more on other RP's @KoL, since Emiri's bit the dust.

Edit: I do like to ask though: how early was this planned? I have reasons to believe Miyako's and Elise's reactions to Emiri's power explanation may have had a factor in it if this was scripted later.

[Flamelord]

Ok, my part is done too, everyone is free to cry now.

@KoL

Would you like my honest opinion, or my pretend one?

[KoL]

@AriamisShe has a substitute coming, I guess you can see that. But yeah, right now I'll focus on my own RP, since I'm waiting for atlest one more post on Lvl's RP before I can do mine. My RP will be open in half a day at the very longest.

@Flamelord Say what's on your mind, then.

[TheWendil]

Interesting. I guess you can now focus more on other RP's @KoL, since Emiri's bit the dust.

Edit: I do like to ask though: how early was this planned? I have reasons to believe Miyako's and Elise's reactions to Emiri's power explanation may have had a factor in it if this was scripted later.

@Ariamis

It was planned as soon as KoL was no longer interested in Emiri's character. So not too long ago.

[Ariamis]

@TheWindel

That answered my question then. Kol did mention about Emiri being bland. Welp, looks like Miyako and Nanako did the right move in not accepting her generosity.

[Flamelord]

@Flamelord Say what's on your mind, then.

@KoL

Okay then.

To be honest, not that impacting for me. Specifically because we just had characters with emotional bonds (Even if they weren't PC's) on the last page. None of the newcomers really got the chance to become attached to Emiri, and Chiyo's betrayal isn't all that shocking either, both because of what happened on the last page, and the fact that IC, there's been no real chance for them to develop trust or actual bonds with her.

So, while it was a nice moment, my reaction is more leaning towards the "Meh" side.

[TheWendil]

You guys can advance it to the next day at this point. We'll have more authentic Miso City sightseeing and Primordial slaying. Plus I'm waiting to see Elise's reaction after waking up hung over.

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Okay then.

To be honest, not that impacting for me. Specifically because we just had characters with emotional bonds (Even if they weren't PC's) on the last page. None of the newcomers really got the chance to become attached to Emiri, and Chiyo's betrayal isn't all that shocking either, both because of what happened on the last page, and the fact that IC, there's been no real chance for them to develop trust or actual bonds with her.

So, while it was a nice moment, my reaction is more leaning towards the "Meh" side.

@Flamelord

I can also argue that this was the point. The newbies weren't supposed to feel impacted by Emiri's death and so would probably not understand why Akame and Rose would spill tears over someone that was supposed to only be seen as a comrade at arms. Plus it was a way to get Emiri out of the story. As for Chiyo's shocking betrayal, that wasn't intended either since we (the players) all saw her being obviously evil a few posts ago.

[KoL]

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Okay then.

To be honest, not that impacting for me. Specifically because we just had characters with emotional bonds (Even if they weren't PC's) on the last page. None of the newcomers really got the chance to become attached to Emiri, and Chiyo's betrayal isn't all that shocking either, both because of what happened on the last page, and the fact that IC, there's been no real chance for them to develop trust or actual bonds with her.

So, while it was a nice moment, my reaction is more leaning towards the "Meh" side.

@Flamelord

Edited out, Windel's post made mine irrelevant.

[Ariamis]

@Flamelord

I think Nanako's going to be affected by her death. Other than that I agree with Windel.

[Spriggs27]

Well Izumi won't feel anything, kinda reminds me of starship troopers where someone was killed and the main characters didn't feel as bad as the other solders from the unit.

[Flamelord]

I can also argue that this was the point. The newbies weren't supposed to feel impacted by Emiri's death and so would probably not understand why Akame and Rose would spill tears over someone that was supposed to only be seen as a comrade at arms. Plus it was a way to get Emiri out of the story. As for Chiyo's shocking betrayal, that wasn't intended either since we (the players) all saw her being obviously evil a few posts ago.

@TheWindel

Well, obviously when taken out of character. But in character it isn't all that shocking either because there hasn't been any time to get to trust Chiyo outside of that one mission, which not everyone was at in the first place. It's just 'Hey, turns out she's actually a bad guy', and we just roll with it. What was the point of even having her pretend to be on their side if she's going to blow her cover this early?

And while it does get Emiri out of the story, it just doesn't have any real emotional impact for me as a reader, coming so close after the other two technically character's dying. That's why I don't find myself any closer to real tears than before it.

Will there be impacts in character? Sure. But for the most part, I'm looking at it from an Out of Character perspective, and I wasn't that affected, and that's all I'm saying.

[KoL]

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Well, obviously when taken out of character. But in character it isn't all that shocking either because there hasn't been any time to get to trust Chiyo outside of that one mission, which not everyone was at in the first place. It's just 'Hey, turns out she's actually a bad guy', and we just roll with it. What was the point of even having her pretend to be on their side if she's going to blow her cover this early?

And while it does get Emiri out of the story, it just doesn't have any real emotional impact for me as a reader, coming so close after the other two technically character's dying. That's why I don't find myself any closer to real tears than before it.

Will there be impacts in character? Sure. But for the most part, I'm looking at it from an Out of Character perspective, and I wasn't that affected, and that's all I'm saying.

@Flamelord

When did Chiyo broke her disguise? The only one who knows about her is dead.

[TheWendil]

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Well, obviously when taken out of character. But in character it isn't all that shocking either because there hasn't been any time to get to trust Chiyo outside of that one mission, which not everyone was at in the first place. It's just 'Hey, turns out she's actually a bad guy', and we just roll with it. What was the point of even having her pretend to be on their side if she's going to blow her cover this early?

And while it does get Emiri out of the story, it just doesn't have any real emotional impact for me as a reader, coming so close after the other two technically character's dying. That's why I don't find myself any closer to real tears than before it.

Will there be impacts in character? Sure. But for the most part, I'm looking at it from an Out of Character perspective, and I wasn't that affected, and that's all I'm saying.

@Flamelord

But of course. Even so, it's not like Chiyo is going around advertising herself so I wouldn't say she blew her cover. The others aren't exactly going to guess that she's the baddie outright automatically either. This may just be me, but I don't really see the issue of other characters being shocked of her real colors when IC, no one even knows much about her. They can't be surprised if they don't even know is all I'm saying.

As for how close Chiyo's acts of evil are to each other IC, that's just GM convenience in dealing with Emiri's character and fitting it to the story.

@Flamelord

I think Nanako's going to be affected by her death. Other than that I agree with Windel.

@Ariamis

Oh yes, I'll enjoy the time when Nanako can get a good look at her "Onee-chan" >:)

[Flamelord]

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When did Chiyo broke her disguise? The only one who knows about her is dead.

@KoL

Process of elimination, primarily.

1. It wasn't a primordial. If it was, she would have been a lot more murderized, and everyone would have sensed it. Thus, it had to have been a magical girl
2. Rose, Izumi, and Elise were all together, so they have alibis.
3. Nanako doesn't use a stabbing weapon, so it couldn't have been her. As well, she and Miyako were together for part of the night and Miyako delivered her home, so she has part of an alibi.
4. Akame doesn't have a motive to kill Emiri.
5. Miyako doesn't have the motive.
6. If there were another magical girl in the city, she would have been found earlier. And the way she was killed suggests the element of surprise, which an unknown girl wouldn't have.

That leaves the logical conclusion as Chiyo, the girl none of us known anything about and the one Akame already suspects of being up to something fishy.

Which doesn't change the fact that I will not be crying over this, because I'm emotionally indifferent to it from an out of character perspective.

[KoL]

@Flamelord That's just a lot of metagaming in my opinion. Specially since Chiyo was supposed to be in Mitakihara by now. I bet she can go there and come back by bus in one night, so she might as well have an alibi.

Also she might must say, "Ask the Contractor if I wasn't with him last night?" Kyubey never lies, but he also never tells more than he's asked, to, so she would have a good cover.

Anyway, a new mysterious girl who indeed uses a stabbing weapon will arrive in the city. So you have at least another suspect, not excluding the possibility of yet an unknown girl existing.

SI yeah all that was metagame based theory. In my view and I find it hard that@TheWindel or @MarsAdept would disagree with me.

[TheWendil]

@Flamelord

But...the others haven't seen Chiyo use a knife. Only her revolver.

[Flamelord]

@Flamelord

But...the others haven't seen Chiyo use a knife. Only her revolver.

@TheWindel

Mami turned ribbons into muskets. It's not impossible for her to have another weapon.

@Flamelord That's just a lot of metagaming in my opinion. Specially since Chiyo was supposed to be in Mitakihara by now. I bet she can go there and come back by bus in one night, so she might as well have an alibi.

Also she might must say, "Ask the Contractor if I wasn't with him last night?" Kyubey never lies, but he also never tells more than he's asked, to, so she would have a good cover.

Anyway, a new mysterious girl who indeed uses a stabbing weapon will arrive in the city. So you have at least another suspect, not excluding the possibility of yet an unknown girl existing.

SI yeah all that was metagame based theory. In my view and I find it hard that@TheWindel or @MarsAdept would disagree with me.

@KoL

While it's a stretch, it isn't that metagamey in my opinion. It follows on a reasonable deduction of facts that the characters in game would know. Is there any part in there that the characters in game would have no knowledge of?

For example, I can't take into account the possibility of a new MG showing up who uses a bladed weapon in these deductions, when I don't know she exists, even if it's out of character. Which still wouldn't explain how they managed to get the jump on her in her own home, without any sign of a struggle or a chance to fight back. Unless Emiri really was just that trusting of complete and total strangers.

While I admit that Chiyo may not be the prime suspect, she would certainly be up there on the list, if only for the reasons I described and akame's own in game distrust of her.

[TheWendil]

Mami turned ribbons into muskets. It's not impossible for her to have another weapon.

@Flamelord

Unfortunately, that sounds like metagaming to me. Again, there is no reason for our characters IC to assume that Chiyo can switch or transform her weapons like that in function.

For example, I can't take into account the possibility of a new MG showing up who uses a bladed weapon in these deductions, when I don't know she exists, even if it's out of character.

@Flamelord

Regardless if Miyako or anyone else knows of a new MG showing up, that doesn't exclude the fact that there is no reason to assume Chiyo was the immediate killer. All of our characters are under the assumption that Chiyo is in Mitikihara right now. The new girl showing up just as Emiri dies of a stab is more indication to blame her than Chiyo.

Which still wouldn't explain how they managed to get the jump on her in her own home, without any sign of a struggle or a chance to fight back. Unless Emiri really was just that trusting of complete and total strangers.

@Flamelord

We've already established that Emiri is a sucker for strangers multiple times through dialogue alone.

While I admit that Chiyo may not be the prime suspect, she would certainly be up there on the list, if only for the reasons I described and akame's own in game distrust of her.

@Flamelord

Akame only has what she thought was a slight hesistation to save Nanako. Nothing more. She knows as little as anyone else. Now before this turns into a heated argument about who's right and wrong, I'm going to have to put my foot down as the GM. If there are still concerns, please take them in the PMs. Otherwise, please respect the actions taken by the GMs @Flamelord.

[Flamelord]

This was based on present information, not things that haven't happened yet like a new MG showing up, which was why that wasn't included.

I'm fine with this, seriously. I'm just saying that from the perspective of the statement "Everyone is free to cry now," I as a player am not going to because the way that it happened doesn't incline me to feel bad about it in any way. That's all. You may take it as you will