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Comming up with realistic sounding fake technology is a lot harder then I thought.

@Zoldyck Congratulations on stealing the 1000th post likely without meaning to.
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...Zol...Didn't you get 1000th back in the original HA?
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I don't think the lifter should be flying in that analogy, even if it is air.

But forget cars for a second, and think of it this way:

Imagine you have a spring, like this:


This is pretty much what an area of higher air pressure looks like. It pushes outwards on the things that are holding it at either end - the things that are compressing it (the hands in the picture, or the neck and hands of characters in our story)

A compressed spring cannot push on one thing. It must exert force in both directions.

If the hand on the left were not there, would the spring still push on the right hand? No, it would expand leftwards until it reached its normal, uncompressed length (or atmospheric pressure for air). Similarly, you cannot compress a spring just by pushing on one end. You need to have something holding it on the other end, or else it just slides along.

You could also approach this through newton's third law of motion - forces come in pairs; for every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction. In this case, the action is that Geoff's air is pushing on Mishka's hands. The reaction is that Mishka's hands push back on the air.

Now remember that the compressed air is a spring, attached to the hands at one end, and that a spring can only exert a force to push things apart when there are things at both ends to be pushed. What is at the other end of the spring? What is on the opposite side of the pressurised air from Mishka's hands? It is Graham's thin, flimsy and all-too-breakable neck.

Ouch.

If I were you, I'd try to find a different way to rescue our poor boy than prying off these super-strong hands while using his neck as a brace to push against. It can be done, I'm sure.
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Looks like Zol is the real ninja here! Speaking of which, has anyone seen our actual ninja around?
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Looks like Zol is the real ninja here! Speaking of which, has anyone seen our actual ninja around?


Which ninja? Fell?
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@DFTBA
The lifter is pulling, not expanding in-between the two.
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Which ninja? Fell?


She's here.

She just doesn't visit the forums that much, cuz she's a lazy butt xP
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She's here.

She just doesn't visit the forums that much, cuz she's a lazy butt xP


So she rules through Zoldy and you? That sounds pretty nefarious to me! I always knew you were a shady character, Rune!
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So she rules through Zoldy and you? That sounds pretty nefarious to me! I always knew you were a shady character, Rune!


No, Rune and Zol are just puppets ;P
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No, Rune and Zol are just puppets ;P


Maybe Fell is an evil genius and uses multiple aliases to carry out her dark deeds! Maybe it's not just Rune and Zoldy? Maybe it's you too, Dax? °.°
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Maybe Fell is an evil genius and uses multiple aliases to carry out her dark deeds! Maybe it's not just Rune and Zoldy? Maybe it's you too, Dax? °.°


...So, you've found me out, huh? >.>
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...So, you've found me out, huh? >.>




It was a clever ruse, Dax. Or should I say, Fell!
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It was a clever ruse, Dax. Or should I say, Fell!


Ah, but there is a flaw in your deduction, Mr. Potato. For you see, Fell was just a character I created

My true self has been Daxam all along!
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The lifter is pulling, not expanding in-between the two.


Air pressure cannot pull, not even a vacuum can do that. It only pushes from an area of higher pressure from an area of lower pressure. Lessening pressure around the hands wouldn't loosen the grip if there was no air in between.

A better way might be to apply a strong breeze directed at the points where Mishka's fingers contact Graham's neck to prise them off. It might not be as strong as those other methods, but it is probably safer.

Please understand that I'm not trying to attack you with this, just trying to find a way for our story to follow established rules and be internally consistent with what characters can and cannot do.
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Air pressure cannot pull, not even a vacuum can do that. It only pushes from an area of higher pressure from an area of lower pressure. Lessening pressure around the hands wouldn't loosen the grip if there was no air in between.

A better way might be to apply a strong breeze directed at the points where Mishka's fingers contact Graham's neck to prise them off. It might not be as strong as those other methods, but it is probably safer.

Please understand that I'm not trying to attack you with this, just trying to find a way for our story to follow established rules and be internally consistent with what characters can and cannot do.


I've edited it.
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I'll have a post for Kyle up tomorrow, he has a few question to ask should also be done with my teacher sometime tomorrow as well. This post is mostly to let people I still live.

No one shall ever suspect I am the true puppet master!
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@Ogobrogo Good posts
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Ah, but there is a flaw in your deduction, Mr. Potato. For you see, Fell was just a character I created

My true self has been Daxam all along!


Inception Noise - BURRRRRRRRRRRRR

I suspected so! It would make sense for a true evil genius to spin such an elaborate web! Your renown clearly lives up, dear Daxam, but you're no match for Potato, the Private Detective!
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Oh my. Starchy justice at its finest~
And thanks Mel :D
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Oh my. Starchy justice at its finest~
And thanks Mel :D


Also, can I just mention that I very much appreciated the Varys quote! C: Oh and Graham just hopped out of the frying pan and into the fire by choosing to sit next to Emily! Muhahahahaha!
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