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Also the more general that power is the more overpowered it is, ultimately.


This.

It really is a power I would have either outright had dropped, or had to have specific instances(as I outlined above). It has the power that is generally outlawed(changing the past, also time weaving, imo) but Skallagrim accepted it. However, the issue now is what does it effect?
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This can be rectified for future fights by you, if you haven't already, explaining what is affected.

Things magically summoned? Anything manipulated by magic(sans PCs)?

Things like that. Otherwise, it'll always be up for interpretation what can be and what can't be. And then, it'll come down to you having to decide right then and whatnot.

IN your example that fire would be magic, for sake of being magically summoned. But if the fire were already there, then it wouldn't be magic fire.


Generally if magic is being used to manipulate it, or control it, obviously there would be magic in it. People don't always agree on that though.
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It would probably come off better if it had a limit, rather than - Is magic somehow involved... in any way..? Yes. Sword can cut it. Because that's really general, and a attempt at legalized time weaving.
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This.

It really is a power I would have either outright had dropped, or had to have specific instances(as I outlined above). It has the power that is generally outlawed(changing the past, also time weaving, imo) but Skallagrim accepted it. However, the issue now is what does it effect?


Well, I think Skallagrim accepted it under the pretense of it being limited in what it could affect to straight up attacks made of magic, which are only one type of magic and wouldn't inherently screw everyone over. The power is only as OP as it is because it's matched with a super-speed character with the metal equivalent of lightsabers. His character can move his arms so fast he's basically got a simple answer to all forms of attack. He could of literally ran circles around Metz and cut him to pieces, which is why I found the fact that he walked into Metz circle hilarious, because it was his only real chance of defeating him and it was such a longshot that I went into the fight resigned to having no real chance.

I mean really, this match-up is practically Sigurd vs Necroloth (probably spelled wrong) all over again. Except rather than having multiple arms Khazna just moves the ones he has really fast, and makes extra swords appear out of magical robots.

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Since you brought up Raelis I should point out that his magic is not technically elemental as while FIRE would be an element, HEAT is not. So if we're gonna get technical, then Khazna shouldn't have been able to effect his magic at all, but I let it slide because I had no wish to have long drawn out arguments in which no one would change their mind.

Also, Raelis' magic is similar to Metz' earth pillar spell, in that the earth is natural, but the force the starts its movement is magical (and untouchable, if Skalla's earlier ruling is correct). So really the only thing Khazna should have been able to do would be stop Raelis' heat/light from being further manipulated till he reconnected with the heat/light with his energy.

But hey, it doesn't matter. While for the tournament that fight is counted as Greivous' win, I already know that it really wasn't one on his/her end (Not sure if you're a guy or a girl Greivous) due to the fact that my last post was basically a measure I had prepared in response to Khazna's seeming ability to predict almost anything and stop almost any magic with faaaar too much ease. That post can be summed up as "If you cut the threads, you're screwed, if you don't cut the threads, you're still screwed."

Oh yeah and @GreivousKhan if you think that magic doesn't have any defining principles and can work very differently depending on what form of magic it is, and if you think that should be irrelevant to Khazna's thread cutting ability, then you need to SERIOUSLY rethink that ability. As Melon said, the more broad/general that ability is, the more OP is, and even as it is now it's OP.

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Well, I think Skallagrim accepted it under the pretence of it being limited in what it could affect to straight up attacks made of magic, which are only one type of magic and wouldn't inherently screw everyone over. The power is only as OP as it is because it's matched with a super-speed character with the metal equivalent of lightsabers. His character can move his arms so fast he's basically got a simple answer to all forms of attack. He could of literally ran circles around Metz and cut him to pieces, which is why I found the fact that he walked into Metz circle hilarious, because it was his only real chance of defeating him and it was such a longshot that I went into the fight resigned to having no real chance.

I mean really, this match-up is practically Sigurd vs Necroloth (probably spelled wrong) all over again. Except rather than having multiple arms Khazna just moves the ones he has really fast, and makes extra swords appear out of magical robots.

Also this, all of this! Raelis was massively disadvantaged that whole fight despite what anyone says, but because I am used to fighting ridiculous things, I managed to build up enough things to make it turn in his favor. Then I got ruled the loser even though the fight was neutral. If anything that should have been a tie and then I should have won due to writing quality and the fact that Raelis was disadvantaged, but was still able to match his opponent repeatedly, nullifying every assault and managing to keep coming up with new ways to try and harm his opponent.

That on top of my last post in the fight basically being something that Khazna, by all rights, shouldn't have been able to counter/nullify. But meh, I take solace in Greivous admitting he/she was saved by the bell, rather than having outright won.

Also, MelonHead it's "pretense," not "pretence," ;)
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Cheers, always have trouble with those s and c words. I also have trouble with recourse and resource. Almost led to a diastrous essay on human resources once.
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To many words to read. x.x
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Too many words to read. x.x


I wouldn't read them Khan, some of them are sort of mean.

So, Charades?
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Oh no, mean words on the internet, in a world where people are mean sometimes.

As a note. The words are based on factual points. They're blunt. If they come off as mean that's honestly not my fault.
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Funny how something that is likely intended to be a harmless joke can rub you the wrong way.

Good job Greivous, you made the list.
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Let this be a lesson.

Don't fuck with Khan.





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The list of people I like least. Also, seriously. I dare you to fight me again with the same character.

I will destroy you.
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You have to guess who's taking the dive first.
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What...does that even mean? =_=
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We're playing Charades keep up.
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No, MelonHead and you are playing Charades. I'm not involved in that nonsense.
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Oh, So why are you here?...
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If you had read my relatively short initial post (in comparison to the IC posts you write, which are very long) maybe you would know. But that's fine, you seem to be content with remaining blissfully ignorant.
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What part of no unsolicited feedback or commentary do people not understand.
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