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Hidden 9 yrs ago Post by yoshua171
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The part where I don't care. Also. You brought up my character. That was why I made comment. Don't bring up my character and I am likely not to show up.
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Fantastic, all of you, cease and desist like the letter. We'll give Skally a couple more days to get used to the new addition and make it back here. If he can't make it back, which is totally understandable, I'll step in and make a ruling, assuming Melon and Khandy haven't come up with one on their own. While some of the stuff said, I agree with, we can't have it happening.

Perhaps in the Chat Thread, or a place where we can discuss issues we have with each other/characters in a somewhat closed off environment.
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Battles could use a map.
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God this thread is weird, leave it for a moment and it all kicks off.
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Distant cough.
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Sound of uncomfortable shuffling.
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@Skallagrim If you're too busy but do get around to reading this, you might want to just let Rilla or someone else you trust know they can make the call for you or this fight is grounded.
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Honestly, by this point in time, even if y'all had've just started arguing. It would have been settled by now, and this would be moving again.

Y'know?
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Honestly, by this point in time, even if y'all had've just started arguing. It would have been settled by now, and this would be moving again.

Y'know?


Unlikely, Khan was understandably unlikely to accept being badly damaged by walking into the circle, which would be the only outcome I'd accept in an argument considering the situation. So that left a ruling as the only reasonable answer.

There really is no moving on after this point. My character cannot win this battle, except for in the insanely unlikely scenario that he caught Khazna in a circle, which has happened. If the circle does not limit Khazna in some fashion, Metz will die, there is no middle ground or compromise to find here.
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You've been in worse. you took ol stone arm to the WOTW finals, which I think was against Khandy
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You've been in worse. you took ol stone arm to the WOTW finals, which I think was against Khandy


Pretty sure I lost that one as well, though that was a higher tier tournament and I'd brought a lower tier character so that was my fault.

Still, I appreciate the moral support.
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Moral Support.

So, to help things along, would you be willing to get the important bits from the post for your side of the case, and @GreivousKhan can do the same.

my main issue, is whether or not he had the charges to use his time weaving magic killer sword of doom, and whether or not the limitations set upon it help or deny its access to your magic rock of infinite doom.
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Okay, simplified my point is that Khan made no prior mention or observation of the circle at any point, even after walking into the exact spot it was placed using his teleportation spell to get behind Metz.

Because he made literally no mention of it before, no charges would apply, as preps require you to clearly state you are preparing an action, and as I mentioned the circle was not mentioned once.

Metz obviously had to prep the circle, so it has one prep.

So, though his character will probably inherently have super reflexes and react to the rock forming at high speed around him, I believe this would fall under a 'surprise attack' in T1, where Khan has to accept his character was in a bad position due to his previous posts.

Also, Skallagrim has already stated a limitation on Khan's power, though this would be up to him to confirm, but it seems to state Khan's sword has no ability to magically effect the rock my character is manipulating 'just because its sorta magic.'

So, in my opinion this leaves Khan's character with very limited options to avoid being killed, and to my mind none that leave him completely unscathed by the rock shooting towards his character from all sides in the pillar. Technically speaking, Khan has already committed to his character believing the circle is negated, so if a ruling states it is not, his ability to then react to the rock would be dubious at best, and damage should have to be incurred.

The flip side is, if the circle is negated then Metz realistically cannot react to Khazna's super-speed blade assault, and Metz also dies. If the circle is ineffective for some other reason but Metz survives briefly, this battle is still over, I've already used every aspect of Metz arsenal to no discernible effect and Metz can neither see nor properly walk in the Arena, not to mention he's about to run out of mana.
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I don't really care enough to make a short or even mini rant. But I have already written would would happen if the mage still goes off, having taken into account where my character is positioned at the moment it was activated. Which is about 5 O'clock on the border form where Metz (I almost wrote Mahtz) had been standing previously. Assuming the circle is only 3 feet wide, as it would need to be to not reach Metz seeing as he stopped 3 or 4 feet away from where I had been standing during my attack.
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Huh, your post has almost completely changed from the last time I saw it, that's why you're not supposed to edit once a ruling has been called for unless the judge says so.
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You ain't supposed to edit at all.
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Ugh.

Issue 1: I can see no mention anywhere that signifies that Khan saw the circle and made an assumption as to what the circle could do. Generally a circle appearing even subtly on the ground means some sort of magic when dealing with a mage, I can find no mention from the point Melon mentions placing the circle in any of Khan's following posts.

Issue 2: Khan altered or otherwise changed a post during a ruling without being instructed to do so. As such I cannot comment on the prior post as it was originally written.

Ruling: Khan's altered post is discounted- Melon may post again. Since Khan altered the post prior to a ruling, under the stated rules of the tournament-

- Closed posts
Attacks must make logical sense, and must be completed in a second post after the opponent has had the opportunity to attempt an equally logical avoidance.


Khan has abdicated the chance at avoidance by revising the post. Melon may now dictate a reasonable hit/damage post.
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Alrighty, cheers for the ruling Skallagrim and the motivational speeches LeeRoy, I'll see what can be done.
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Let me know if that's what you had in mind in regards to a damage post, Skallagrim, I haven't had to do one other than for finishing fights for a long time.
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