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@Avanhelsing Honestly I was thinking something to do with senses, reflexes and agility. Literally powers which would make him more catlike.

As for father ideas this is who I thought of first. Makes sense given the references to his father in your sheet.
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@Lord WraithI maintain my innocence. Until the grave.

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I still hear "Shes not Gritty enough", thats literally what your saying, especially with your example of what you want.

I think he just doesn't like the idea of her being a cartoon like Roger Rabbit in Who Framed Roger Rabbit. If that's "not gritty enough" then I'd say yes, that's what he's saying.
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@Archmage MC Dude I'm sorry, Light is rejected. There's nothing that's going to change that.

EDIT: There's now three of us explaining the same thing to you, I'm sorry if you see that as 'not being gritty enough' but it still stands that's my reasoning and I really don't have to justify it any further.
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I still hear "Shes not Gritty enough", thats literally what your saying, especially with your example of what you want.


I'm gonna be blunt here. Wraith is the GM, he said that the character doesn't fit. I know the guy for a long time - he's pretty adamant about the whole thing. He's not gonna change his mind, he's given his reason, and if that's not good enough for you that's your problem. Now, please, stop cluttering the OOC and either sign up with a different character or look for another game.

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I still hear "Shes not Gritty enough", thats literally what your saying, especially with your example of what you want.


The example of Killer Croc is most comparable to character like the Martian Manhunter, Etrigan, Hawkgirl etc. They are physically not human, but their traits are still rooted in the 'reality' of that universe. The whole point of your character was that she opposed reality and was thus 'unrealistic'. I don't understand why you're making this an issue.
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@Tyler Also you're accepted, I suppose :P
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@Lord WraithI maintain my innocence. Until the grave.

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I think he just doesn't like the idea of her being a cartoon like Roger Rabbit in Who Framed Roger Rabbit. If that's "not gritty enough" then I'd say yes, that's what he's saying.


Well apparently he doesn't wanna say it for some reason. I dunno why he isn't being honest, especially since I'm being very upfront with him. Hes just like "No. Its silly, I don't like comedy. I don't like anything thats not a human." I bet he wouldn't take any of the weirder xmen either, or The Leader, or MORBO, or any of those characters from marvel either.

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The example of Killer Croc is most comparable to character like the Martian Manhunter, Etrigan, Hawkgirl etc. They are physically not human, but their traits are still rooted in the 'reality' of that universe. The whole point of your character was that she opposed reality and was thus 'unrealistic'. I don't understand why you're making this an issue.


Now THATS a good reason. Too bad you had to say it for him.
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@Archmage MC First off, Nightcrawler is one of my favourite comic characters of all time.

@Archmage MC After re-reading Light's sheet she's a fun idea but to me she just doesn't fit the RP. She almost seems too silly, not that I'm saying this is a gritty RP but to me she's just too different. I think what bothers me most is the fact that Light appears so out of place. I just don't see the concept working in the long run.


That 'appears' was meant in the literal sense. I have been honest with you the whole time. My honest feelings are that I dislike the fact Light is a cartoon in the real world and is literally meant to be 'silly'. I get that DC and Warner Brothers are tied together but that doesn't mean I want a Looney Toon in my RP. Sorry man, like I've said I don't like the character and I won't be accepting it.
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Alright. Added the powers and something in the extra part.
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@Avanhelsing All good! Accepted

Appears I need to finish my own CS and brain storm up an IC opener. Although at least that can wait a few days to give others a chance.
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@Archmage MC First off, Nightcrawler is one of my favourite comic characters of all time.

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That 'appears' was meant in the literal sense. I have been honest with you the whole time. My honest feelings are that I dislike the fact Light is a cartoon in the real world and is literally meant to be 'silly'. I get that DC and Warner Brothers are tied together but that doesn't mean I want a Looney Toon in my RP. Sorry man, like I've said I don't like the character and I won't be accepting it.


And my problem is your using a comic book universe and your saying 'silly' isn't allowed. Have you read comic books at all mate? Some of the craziest things happen in there. And thats what I'm confused on, its like your trying to use a DC-alike universe instead of a DC universe. The same universe where Superman had to get back pastries from I think the Weather Wizard while teaming up with I think the cheeto mascot. I can try to find it again, but there are lots of comics with cartoon characters mixed with DC.

Course if your using the New 52 and thats it, then your pretty grounded, in which case, you might wanna state that.
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Calmate chico. We all said you seem like a great rper. You can do crazy but just make it fit the universe a bit better. That's all we are saying.
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And my problem is your using a comic book universe and your saying 'silly' isn't allowed. Have you read comic books at all mate? Some of the craziest things happen in there. And thats what I'm confused on, its like your trying to use a DC-alike universe instead of a DC universe. The same universe where Superman had to get back pastries from I think the Weather Wizard while teaming up with I think the cheeto mascot. I can try to find it again, but there are lots of comics with cartoon characters mixed with DC.

Course if your using the New 52 and thats it, then your pretty grounded, in which case, you might wanna state that.


Except all of those are elseoworlds stories, product placement, or before Crisis, where comics were silly.


This is not the same universe the RP is based on. You're arguing a point that's going nowhere except change the atmosphere of the OOC to a more volatile and hostile one. Wraith might have more patience, but if you're only gonna argue and not create a new sheet, you should leave.

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Except all of those are elseoworlds stories, product placement, or before Crisis, where comics were silly.


Exactly, and thats why I'm confused. Hes basically saying no to the silver era of comics, which is why I'm trying to get a clarification on what kind of cutoff date he wants. I make silly fun characters, not serious boring drama bombs which are made every day, and without a point of reference its sorta hard to do that.
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@Archmage MC Your character is not being solely rejected on the basis of being silly. I understand this is a comic universe and that a certain degree of silliness is involved. We have men running around in costumes which for the most part horribly impractical. That said there is a limit to how much silliness I am willing to accept in both my comics and my RP. I'm willing for example to accept a talking Racoon with an affinity for large fire arms. I am not willing to accept a girl who seems to have popped out of cartoon into a comic universe.

But if all of this is not a good enough reason for you, then this is not an RP for you. Obviously you have a problem with me as a GM and as such it would be best both for me and the other players that you do not participate in this RP. I wish you well and I am sorry I had to reject your character but as I have said it does not align with my vision for the RP.
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Exactly, and thats why I'm confused. Hes basically saying no to the silver era of comics, which is why I'm trying to get a clarification on what kind of cutoff date he wants. I make silly fun characters, not serious boring drama bombs which are made every day, and without a point of reference its sorta hard to do that.


First off, for anyone to take this discussion seriously, you should probably stop implying that your characters are silly and therefor better. It was not necessary to imply that it wasn't golden age of comics that are being used here, everyone else seem to understand. In fact, I've seen two golden age games on this site in all of the four years I've been a active member of the RPG community, so I really don't understand where you're getting the notion that anyone does Golden Age stuff. You don't like dramatic characters? What are you then doing in a storytelling scene based around dramatic cues and showmanship? That doesn't make any sense.

I said it once already; Make a new character, or leave. This is nothing but clutter in the OOC.

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Hey, I'm one of the people who's only kinda familiar with comic book lore, but I know Magic exists in the DC universe, so is Magic ok to use in this RP? If so, what kind of limitations or rules does this universe have for magic?
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Hey, I'm one of the people who's only kinda familiar with comic book lore, but I know Magic exists in the DC universe, so is Magic ok to use in this RP? If so, what kind of limitations or rules does this universe have for magic?


Well cartoons are out, thats for sure. Probably none tbh as long as it isn't higher level reality bending.

But you'd better hope its after crisis, apparently anything before that is off limits.
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@Natsu It's always depended on the character in comics. Zatanna, Dr. Fate, Traci 13, Etrigan the Demon, are all predominant users of magic but there's really no huge consistency in limits and abilities due to the numerous authors and characters over the years. Your best bet would be to focus on a niche and develop abilities you want and then limit them accordingly.
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All right, I'll try to do some research and make something cohesive and balanced.
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