[OOC] Running and Gunning - Higan Vs. The Magna Pater

[Doc Doctor]

@MelonHead
Yeah, one of its favorite tricks is playing dead by going into metabolic stasis. There is no way it can move around and avoid the electric vision at the same time, not unless it gets some serious distance. Right now it's still experimenting with ways it can get free of the metal thing's attention.

[MelonHead]

Pretty lucky for Higan his Mech is outfitted with Electric vision, I still do no know why I included it when I made the character almost a year back, but it's finally come in handy.

[Doc Doctor]

@MelonHead

I'm actually having fun with this match, despite the advantage ball being so precariously balanced on the edge of Jay Leno's chin with the fires of O.O.C burning below. Probably because its playing out like a decent plot does, and I can picture everything happening so nicely. Avatar meets Alien meets Blair Witch Project.

[Doc Doctor]

@MelonHead

Let's have Higan catch up to it in its bed chamber for a final, climactic real fight. This chase thing is silly.

[MelonHead]

Something just occurred to me which may make the Pater's escape to its lair a little less easy, though I still suspect the battle will end in the bowels of the earth so to speak, as all good monster confrontations should.

Also, Electric vision doesn't work through solid rock, just so you know the limitation in regards to how effective it is.

[MelonHead]

Also, if you were interested it might be cool to do a 'prequel' of sorts for this fight, where the Pater first came to Ramor. I have another Ramor character who is essentially a super-soldier, who with a squad of fluff troops could be ambushed by the Pater. Obviously as it's a prequel it wouldn't have gone well for the troops, though they may have managed to beat the Pater off and the current fight could be a week or so later, depending on how fast the Pater could heal.

Just an idea, I just think the Pater would be most entertaining to fight with a squad of relatively human soldiers, as I absolutely love the Aliens universe.

[MelonHead]

I'm not saying I'm planning to blow up the cave entrance before your character can enter (in fact, blowing it up before the Pater arrived would probably be impossible due to the convenient hill) but it seems a little unlikely that the act would be 'impossible' as you say. There really isn't any natural stone dense enough to resist a HEAT round, consider that Quarries and the like which dealt with particularly dense stone on hills and mountains were made centuries ago with simple dynamite. I'm asking because Higan really isn't equipped to enter the death cave without his Mech, so he's going to have to blow a hole large enough to get in, regardless of if you say it's impossible. I'll do some research into the effect of HEAT rounds on solid rock, so I can guesstimate the effects.

Yeah, I don't profess to be an expert, but HEAT rounds would definitely be effective against the rock, as it utilizes a shaped charge, which are often used in quarrying and demolitions.

[Doc Doctor]

@MelonHead

Perhaps a heat round can get through solid rock, but whether or not it can reach all the way to the Magna Pater's bed chambers depends on how much.



And that's after a half-hour trek down through the caves before Ruby even reaches the crevice, not mentioning the initial tunnel. It really doesn't matter in this battle though, because I think we can agree that one way or another Higan should be able to get down there. If it can't do it, then just science up the power of that warhead.

[MelonHead]

Well, I suppose the entry-point the Pater chose doesn't have to be the exact one described in that post. I was just going to have Higan blow up the entrance a bit, cause a big mess, and have his Mech struggle through a hundred meters or so of tunnel before it started to deepen and open out enough for his Mech to move around properly. Though I suppose he'll have to wait until the Pater gets there before worrying about that. I'm assuming it didn't quite make it in the previous post judging by the wording.

[Doc Doctor]

@MelonHead

Either way its hundreds of feet below ground, but yeah that's fine. I'll try and get the beastie down there in the next post.

[MelonHead]

Is the Pater really four yards away from the entrance of the cave? I'm not sure it would have been unscathed by the HEAT round in that scenario, as it was launched just inside. I'm not sure how big the blast radius of a HEAT round is, but I'd assume it was probably up to thirty to forty feet.

Honestly pretty hard to find information on the exact blast radius, obviously HEAT rounds aren't particularly efficient for wide-range anti-personnel work but at that proximity I'd expect the Pater would be pretty badly burned and even penetrated by fragments, particularly from the rock.

[MelonHead]

Anyway I've got my next post ready, but it's a bit weird that the blast didn't affect the Pater if it was sitting that close to it.

[Doc Doctor]

@MelonHead

Four yards was not how far it was from the doorway but the fire.

[MelonHead]

Your syntax was messed up then 'The Magna Later (lol) remained immobile as the fire obliterated the entranceway just four yards in front of it.' In that sentence the distance refers to the entranceway, if you wanted to suggest the fire had cut out four yards in front of the Pater something along the lines of 'The Magna Pater remained immobile even as fire billowed out and obliterated the entranceway, falling short of the Pater itself by four yards'.

Anyway, it's not massively important in a casual battle.

[Doc Doctor]

Hey, if that's hiw you wanna see it! Anyways, my shitty phone likes to change Pater to Later.

[MelonHead]

I figured it was something like that. So the Pater is bursting out of cover onto the Mech after he begins firing, which begs the question, what happened to the rifle round it shot directly at it?

[Doc Doctor]

@MelonHead

That was literally a shot in the dark, and I was a bit drunk last night, so I just forgot all about that part! I'll go edit that, and also will detail further how it used its tail, since I had been pretty vague about that. Just for the record though, the rifle hadn't been fired directly at it. It only had "potential to graze his immobile form".

[MelonHead]

Hmm, well. Although Higan took action to prevent that specific move and you didn't really contend it I don't really want to finish the fight yet without the Pater getting to do anything. Plus I'm interested to see what you'll actually do if you get behind him, so I'll just disregard Higan blocking off a frontal charge with his rifle and let the between the legs move get through.

[MelonHead]

Okay, my next post is a bit confusing because the Mech's torso is facing slightly to the right but its left leg is still facing forward. So to clarify now the Mech is essentially leaping sideways from the bottom down, but from the upper torso's perspective it's more backwards. It should make sense if you read what Higan's intentions are from the move though.

[MelonHead]

I'm not entirely sure your character would remain unscathed if it stayed on the Mech's back. The A.S.P is only twelve feet tall, so that's a lot of the Pater's body sticking out the back and subsequently being crushed by the stone wall. Not to mention your character went between the Mech's legs, so it had to go around the back of the left leg to get to safety, I doubt it could extricate its entire body to the outside of the Mech's left leg in the half second before the Mech would pincer it against the wall. Especially as it was apparently carrying a rock, which I would presume would slow it down.