[OOC] Fairy Tail : United we Stand

[MysT3CH]

datadogie said
Sorry if I'm acting a little bossy. It's just that that character seems a little overpowered.

Lol, better to be blunt here. It's very OP

[Marc]

Remember the rules guys. characters who are considered super powerful are allowed, as long as the history/personality is very indepth. So I'm not going to give my opinion until the history is finished.

[BrassOtter]

Heeeey guilds back up~

[Rune_Alchemist]

Guilds up, wheee~
I'll get to work on a post~

[Taka]

KillamriX88 said
Well, I don't run this RP, but here's my opinion...No. Just no. It's been a long time since a character sheet has screamed "Mary-Sue" at me badly. I mean seriously, every time you come close to describing some sort of weakness or personality flaw, you immediately go back and describe how he isn't that bad. He's arrogant, but not above praising opponents, he's cold and careless but gains respect through his actions, he has no martial arts training but he's amazing at hand-to-hand anyway... while also having crazy powerful magic.

Oh, and he's super smart and stuff.And are you "Despite not knowing other magic styles he does have enough knowledge to tutor others in their magic style. He can also identify magic from seeing it's effects making investigations a relative breeze."And all at the young age of 23... .I may have overstepped my bounds here, and if so I apologize... but I really think this character needs a looooot of work. Starting over might even be better.

Edit: OK, went back and saw the post you made where you explained what you wanted to do with your character. Makes SOME of what you put make sense, but for the most part my opinion still stands...

1. Personality = Vegeta from Dragonball Z. I don't really care how you feel about his personality. Actions speak louder then words. Gaining respect through actions does not subtract from being cold and careless to others through words. They are incredibly far apart to be honest. I could be the most asshole boxer in the world but in the ring i'm like Mike Tyson in his prime. Therefore my actions in ring garner respect for what I can do but you can hate my personality. Same thing can be attuned for arrogance. If you impress him then yes he will praise that you were stronger then thought but, that doesn't neglect that he can still feel as though he's better then you.

2. You do know that like..most mages in Fairy Tail are amazing at hand to hand despite having great power? You do know that you don't have to be a martial artist to be a great fighter?

3. He doesn't train in other styles but he does know of them I.E. in connection with magical knowledge thanks to Pollux's training. That is like a boxing coach or anyone highly knowledgeable within certain arts. Just because they don't train in it themselves, doesn't mean they can't help train others. Plus it does not say he's the perfect teacher and can teach people any style he wanted

4. 23...do you know how powerful most of the Fairy Tail Wizards are by just the age of 20? 23 is reasonable within the world of Fairy Tail. Plus he's not an average mage. No one in this rp is just an average mage or else it wouldn't focus on us if you understand what I'm saying.

datadogie said
I agree. Plus, we've already got the three lost magic users, so the magic type would have to be changed to just Caster. Plus, that's like, what, three different types of magics you have? Repair, Magic and Heavenly. I also can't help but notice that Heavenly Body magic appears to have lots of different types of magic hidden in, such as fire magic, not to mention that Supernova produces almost the same amount of power as a Fire Dragon Slayer, a bit OP. You've also got a bit of Gravity magic in there, and a lot of other things.Sorry if I'm acting a little bossy. It's just that that character seems a little overpowered.

That arm isn't changing. It's something me and Marc have worked out pretty damn hard especially for the plot of the rp itself.

You do know that like..most mages in Fairy Tail have like a gajillion magics. Also Repair isn't much but to repair clothing and the arm is innate and not fully controllable. Its not something he learned. Its something that was forced on to him.

You do know what Heavenly Body Magic is...right? it uses attributes from the cosmos I.E. Stars, Planets, ETC. Gravity is part of planets and stars. Not to mention Altairis spell is the same spell Jellal uses and it has gravity within it. That's canon. Stars produce heat. Drake is able to replicate that heat. It burns hot like fire. Dragon Slayer Flames are...guess what....fire except that I don't have the versatility of a Flame Dragon Slayer or well the real force behind it. It's just...heat. Nothing concussive added to it. How many people, even the weaker people, take Natsu's flames to the face without being burned heavily or feel just fine afterwards? Most and Natsu has a concussive force behind his flames. Flames produce heat. He uses heat, not actual flames.

Its like people scream OP without even putting real thought into the claim.

[Taka]

MysT3CH said
Lol, better to be blunt here. It's OP

Cept it's not cause he's the right power level for an A-Class mage.

[Rune_Alchemist]

The only problem I have with your character Kal, is his number of spells. Seems...to be an excessive amount. If all A class mages could be that powerful, I'm going to go back and revise Acacia's spells. And no one wants that....keke.

[KillamriX88]

My problem isn't with any one thing, it's the fact that he's an all in one package. He's smart, has crazy powerful magic, and lost magic, and he has his own martial art style or whatever it is, and... *sigh*

Well, it's up to Marc. Maybe he'll be better in practice than he looks on paper. This is just my opinion.

[MysT3CH]

Kal-El said
Cept it's not cause he's the right power level for an A-Class mage.

He just seems more S-Class than A-Class. I mean, if Marc's happy then go with it, but in comparison to the characters that have been previously accepted, including our current S-Classes he seems powerfull enough to be a wizard saint.

Just cause canon characters are immensely strong albiet being young in the anime, doesn't mean your character should be. I mean down the road sure, but to begin, i feel he should be dialed down.

But Marc's choice

[datadogie]

I talked to Marc earlier. Everyone settle down. When the backstory is finished, Marc said he would judge it. He also thought there were a few things that needed to be changed, but I'll let Marc say the specifics, as he may have changed his mind. For now, let's just all relax, and have fun!

[MysT3CH]

Anyways, while we're on the topic of characters, finally came up with an idea for couple spells i'd like to have Verin learn down the road. I'll be adding them to his CS within the hour.

So when you have a chance, would appreciate some feedback. Both from you Marc, as well as from everyone else. 

[BrassOtter]

Kal-El said
4. 23...do you know how powerful most of the Fairy Tail Wizards are by just the age of 20? 23 is reasonable within the world of Fairy Tail. Plus he's not an average mage.

EDIT: Sorry Mystech, You posted your rebuttle while I was throwing this together, didn't see it >w< Point still stands, though

Not even 23

[Taka]

Rune_Alchemist said
The only problem I have with your character Kal, is his number of spells. Seems...to be an excessive amount. If all A class mages could be that powerful, I'm going to go back and revise Acacia's spells. And no one wants that....keke.

Seems like a fair number considering half of them aren't as potent as you think.

KillamriX88 said
My problem isn't with any one thing, it's the fact that he's an all in one package. He's smart, has crazy powerful magic, and lost magic, and he has his own martial art style or whatever it is, and... *sigh* Well, it's up to Marc. Maybe he'll be better in practice than he looks on paper. This is just my opinion.

Neat

MysT3CH said
He just seems more S-Class than A-Class. I mean, if Marc's happy then go with it, but in comparison to the characters that have been previously accepted, including our current S-Classes he seems powerfull enough to be a wizard saint. Just cause canon characters are immensely strong albiet being young in the anime, doesn't mean your character should be. I mean down the road sure, but to begin, i feel he should be dialed down. But Marc's choice

Well considering Wizard Saints aren't actually that strong near the bottom, Jura being an example of how pathetic one can be as a Wizard Saint, that's not saying much. But no....he's not even close to a Wizard Saint if Marc keeps them at the power level they should be at. He's not even S-Class. You are jumping to conclusions. I'll compare Zephyr to Gildartz. Gildarts has only two magics and yet the one that is actually offensive, Crash, is insanely powerful when under his control yet he doesn't have an variety to it. I.E. he possesses more Magical Power and Zephyr would show that and be able to thrash Drake in a fight.

Ummm that's called canonnicity especially when someone has trained their whole life in that particular field. It's pretty much a given that mages are able to reach A Rank without having to be near thirty years old. Look at real life martial artists and other forms of fighters that train since they were young and are actually good at what they do.

datadogie said
I talked to Marc earlier. Everyone settle down. When the backstory is finished, Marc said he would judge it. He also thought there were a few things that needed to be changed, but I'll let Marc say the specifics, as he may have changed his mind. For now, let's just all relax, and have fun!

Lolz

[Taka]

BrassOtter said

So....that....makes my point even more cause they have great power ala S-Class at younger age, Erza making S-Class younger then that. Drake isn't even S-Class. He's A-Class alongside Natsu, Gray, and Gajeel to name a few examples.

[KillamriX88]

Oh yeah, mystech saying that reminds me. I've been meaning to add a concrete spell list to Rurik. If anything seems out of order, let me know. I'mma go edit that in right now.

[MysT3CH]

Added the spells to my CS, i'll start working on a post now.

Edit: Nice Sig btw Kal.

[Taka]

MysT3CH said
Added the spells to my CS, i'll start working on a post now.Edit: Nice Sig btw Kal.

That sig is my pride and joy.

Your sig..needs more...blue...if you catch my drift.

I'm being subtle.

Tron.

[KiltmanBagz]

Yesh...so far this thread had been free of unpleasant conversations and needless arguments. Please don't make this a habit people.

[Taka]

KiltmanBagz said
Yesh...so far this thread had been free of unpleasant conversations and needless arguments. Please don't make this a habit people.

I'll make a habit out of you.

I'm being subtle.

Is this funny yet?

[KillamriX88]

Added a spells section to my CS and an extra sentence to the magic section that clarifies how his attacks work a little.