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Hmmm, so here's a question for you, Wolf: Saur wants to make up for their tardiness, so he wants to try to really bunker down and work at this to try to succeed here. So what he's going to want to do is take a moment to ask Alandri what kinds of fish live in here that would be particularly valuable to her. And then he's going to want to Hunt Prey in order to try to find the more valuable ones specifically if any exist, using the Seek action.

Would finding and watching his target using that help him in his attempt to acquire his fish in any way? Or would this just be rolling dice for no real benefit? If there's no mechanical benefit, that's still probably what he'd do for flavor, but I just won't bother rolling the dice for that and just stick with another skill check, probably using his Stealth to hide in the water and wait for his chance to snatch whatever fish he can

I'm also assuming that his Forager feat doesn't apply here, since we're not Subsisting, right?
Haha, yeah I noticed the accidental similarity before, but it's totally fine. I named Tanrith based on a limited draconic language webpage I found a long time ago and the similarities don't bother me~ If you want to change it to make it easier on yourself, though, feel free. Just don't feel like you have to on my account! =3
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I looked it up and it says it works like AC roll so... *shrugs* If I'm wrong, anyone can correct me.


I believe it really depends on how you imagine it. Since you're rolling Stealth and they're not actively rolling against you, you could call it a typical Stealth Skill check where the DC = the creature's Passive Perception. In this case, you just have to meet the DC in order to pass the check. Or, if you treat it like a contested skill check, then a tie means the situation remains unchanged. In the case of Stealth, that means the roller goes unnoticed I believe.

But I have often seen the "AC roll" argument used the other way around as well. Where the "Attacker wins the tie" rule is what you go to. And in the case of Perception vs. Stealth, Perception is usually what is considered the attacking roll since stealthing is inherently a defensive concept and trying to find a hidden target is considered an offensive act. So typically with this argument, the goal of a Perception check is just to MEET the defensive Stealth roll. Even with a Passive Perception, because all that basically means is that you're assuming the observer is just rolling a 10 on perception on average, rather than bog the game down with constant Perception checks.

But you could also see that last part being more in place for a player instead of an NPC since only players get tipped off to secrets if a Perception check is called.

So...long story short, it's totally open to DM interpretation, and I've actually seen it both ways before. xD I think I've usually played with "Perception is meet or beat Stealth" more often, so I assume that's the more common interpretation, but that doesn't mean the other isn't also just fine~

So yeah, however you want to roll with it should be fine! Heck, if you wanted to adjust it so that it always favors the player or always favors the NPC in terms of winning a tie because that sounds more fun to you, that's also a choice you can make~ xP
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Saur listened attentively to Alandri's response and nodded his head at her explanation. "I see. If that's what you've decided, then I will do as instructed, ma'am." However, just as he was picking up his utensils to start eating, he paused again. Something she had said had just registered and finished processing. He put his fork back down for a moment and looked back over at Alandri yet again.

The fact that this behavior was unusual for Teacher Ot was curious to him. He wondered, then, what could be keeping him...? Was something happening elsewhere right now, or was he just thinking too deeply into it?

"Is it possible he's just caught up in some kind of work at the Magaambya and can't afford the time to come down here...?" Saur asked. If that were the case, no doubt he would have some words for them when next they met. And he wasn't eager for that...though it was bound to come eventually.
Saur


Saur turned his attention to the goblin as he approached...and hesitated. Angry...mob? Why would he ever need a-? But then he shook his head. No, he shouldn't say that out loud. His first impression of this one was that he was...strange, to say the least. But he couldn't judge his abilities by that alone. "I see..." he murmured in response. "It's a, er...pleasure to meet you as well, um. Jenk." He unintentionally stressed that last part, clearly feeling awkward about saying the name aloud. "I will keep that in mind, however...I doubt I will require assistance with ranged combat." As he added that last part, he gripped the wooden arch hanging around his shoulders and across his back and fiddled with it slightly, demonstrably shaking the shortbow to emphasize its presence.

He opened his maw to continue speaking and explain his skill with a bow, he stopped as he suddenly realized that they had a fifth member joining up with them. This one seemed to resemble a frog, and he had to take a moment to process their presence; he was surprised to actually see one of their group actually smaller in stature than himself. However, before he could inquire about their presence, the door of the building they had been standing in front of began to open.

Saur was caught off-guard by this gnome woman's stark appearance, but he was almost equally as shocked to hear that she was expecting them. Thankfully, it didn't take him long to start piecing things together, especially once the name "Teacher Ot" was mentioned. He absolutely knew the name of the instructor he had been supposed to meet up with. But there was one thing in her words that caused his blood to run a little colder.

"It doesn't reflect well."

Saur's eyes widened at that. He wasn't surprised that they were late, however, considering he had to stop and actively hide from town guards not even a couple minutes ago. He didn't like the idea of making such a bad first impression during their first task, even if he didn't even know what they were doing in the first place. He swallows hard as he nervously watches Alandri break the red bead that he realized was meant to summon Ot to their location.

During the few minute-long wait, Saur remained silent. He considered attempting to apologize, but decided against it. One look at Alandri's face told him that she may not take well to excuses in the moment. He considered apologizing later, once their task was complete.

Luckily, it seemed like their meeting with a no-doubt-disappointed Teacher Ot was going to be put off, as even after several minutes, there seemed to be no sign of him. Perhaps this would give him more time to figure out what he was going to say....

For now, however, he focused his attention on the task at hand. He nodded along with her words while his eyes instinctively darted around the room, taking in every little sight that he could. Still, he made sure to keep his attention mostly on Alandri, even stiffening his body to make sure it was clear that he was standing at attention; not paying attention during this lecture was no doubt going to come back to bite him in the tail, after all. Not that he needed the lesson. The importance of a warrior or hunter being in the right place at the right time had long-since been drilled into him...not that he planned to share that information right now. Though thanks to that, he felt more comfortable turning a little bit more of his attention to their surroundings...including the pictures of an individual sporting similar attire and an interesting-looking staff that he was quick to spot hanging nearby. The lack of a similar-looking gnome in the area was curious, however.... He wondered if he should assume the worst.

Soon enough, the food seemed to be finished preparing and was now set out for them again. However, at this, a look of genuine confusion seemed to cross his face. The strong scent of the coffee caught his nostrils and caused him to actively recoil for a moment. But he quickly recovered and focused on the meal itself...as well as the strange, black scale presented to him.

"Erm...excuse me, Miss Alandri?" Saur spoke up, raising his arm. "I...apologize, I do not intend to sound ungrateful or anything, however, I feel the need to ask: Is this appropriate...?" he asked. After waiting a moment to allow her to process the question, he began to explain his question. "What I mean is that we were, evidently, late for our meeting with you; late enough that you clearly felt it a worthy enough slight to summon Teacher Ot. Wouldn't an infraction of such importance usually be reprimanded with the loss of rations like this, considering we are not in an active battle zone where maintaining our strength would be of the utmost importance?"

The expression on the small Kobold's face was of genuine confusion, clearly legitimately questioning their situation, as though he thought this act was being overly generous....
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... Never expected one of my players to outright say "GIVE MY CHARACTER TRAUMA, DAMMIT" but alright then xD


For shame, you should know me better than that by now, you know how I do~ ;P
Oh dang, it really got that bad, huh? Hey, don't worry about it, take good care of yourself! Get well soon!
Admittedly, I was personally hoping for a little more interaction between the party members, but the posts are taking longer to roll in than I expected them to, so it might be okay to move on anyway xD We might have more actual interaction time later once the group has kinda settled a bit more
Heheh, I certainly expect this optimistic, cheerful demeanor to be tested eventually~ xP
Hope it's fine if I post again, because I liked this meeting and the idea just jumped to my mind and I needed to get it down before I forgot...plus I am eager for Tanrith to finally get to interact with a PC xD
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