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Video Games: The General Discussion & Community Thread Number Two

I still have yet to hear from you, yes YOU.

You're going to be waiting a while. Cuz I'm not playing the game to find out. If anyone cared, they could look through other peoples various complaints about the game for themselves.

And there's more than three or four ARPG/MMO-type games where you can dodge roll. Believe me.

because you know you can't actually truly critique a game without playing it yourself.

And I know you've said this before. But you're just as wrong as you were before. You can (and should) critique a game's censorship, and various other shitty practices, without suffering them for yourself.

If only because hundreds more will go "but something something, this is worse and you have no proof they designed their game this way, so you could pay for things later down the line."

Buy your Pokemon Sword&Shield pokedex expansions pack now.

Video Games: The General Discussion & Community Thread Number Two

u can dodge roll though which is something a bit more unique to the MMO space.

I can't help but feel like you're making fun of my earlier statement, while also getting said statement wrong.

@Fabricant451

My humor can indeed be hyperbolic, yes. But um yeah, dodge rolling (or jumping) is not unique to Lost Ark. Not even a bit.

Video Games: The General Discussion & Community Thread Number Two

An advocate for diversity in media

But a game that is free to play is absolutely going to find some way to make money.

@Fabricant451

1. Yeah. There's a right and wrong way to add inclusion. But advocates don't tend to care about how its done/how much sense it makes. So long as it happens. And look at how fucking terrifying they made that character's face.

2. See above. There's a right and wrong way to handle your game and its practices. When you encourage players "to get rid of the grind", what do you think happened first? A. They saw player feedback and added paid options to help. B. They designed the game to be slow, monotonous and grindy. To add paid options to get impatient and frustrated players to spend their money.

Also, any time I see a defender of something use a "this bad too" argument. They don't seem to grasp that the arguer will more than likely dislike those practices even more than the one that's now bringing them up. (Because they're only doing it for 'whataboutisms' for their defense. And not through genuine concern or actual critique of bad consumer practices, which motives the one doing the criticizing in the first place.)

So, to sum this up in the best way possible.

"Pay to win games can be good guys. guys. And bad games can suck for other reasons. Guys guys." Is a shit argument.

And if you like something and actually want it to succeed, you'd critique it's negative points and bad consumer practices. My two cents anyway.

Video Games: The General Discussion & Community Thread Number Two

not sure what you're on about, i have like almost 30 hours in it

@Hey Im Jordan

If my humor doesn't compute. Reboot your system.

And only 30 hours on an MMO? Pff Newbz.

But you shouldn't be shilling for free, ya know. Amazon's paying peeps $100 bucks daily to play it. So hit 'em up, and make sure you also mention how good it is that you can dodge roll attacks in it. And how you don't see that in any MMO's.

Beside Guild Wars, New World, *starts listing endlessly to make a point without actually wasting effort to look them up.*

Video Games: The General Discussion & Community Thread Number Two

Lost Ark is a great game, I think I'm gonna max my first character today. Super excited for the endgame

@Hey Im Jordan

You forgot to add the 'Beep Boop'.

Video Games: The General Discussion & Community Thread Number Two

Is this really the hill you want to die on, my guy

@Fabricant451

No, I assumed it was your hill.

If a game has numerous bad/mobile-game practices. Why waste so much time defending it?

Also, realize that I've not made any "pay to win" arguments. All of its defenders have. And it screams, lady doth protest too much.

What Are You Listening To?

@Rosenrot Row Row is still my favorite of theirs.

Video Games: The General Discussion & Community Thread Number Two

Because it truly never ends. Thanks Twitter.

Lost Ark is actively being censored in the US, and they darkened many of the Asian characters skin for the US 'Muh Diversity' crowd. (Look at her fucking eyes.)

Hi, uncanny valley. How are you?

Changed Outfits (Many clothing options were simply removed from the game.)

Less content. (Less customizations presets for characters.

Also, addressing this (or any other perceived problem) will get you permabanned from the community hub.

And all of a sudden, now I know why its being defended on social media. And me thinks it has very little to do with the game's combat.

Though hilariously, it became an Amazon product only a few months before its US release. So it's another Disney situation, where a multi-billion dollar company is being blindly defended for actively making a product worse.

Video Games: The General Discussion & Community Thread Number Two

Real text on a positive rated Lost Ark Review on reddit. (All about it not being pay to win.)

"To determine if Lost Ark is a Pay to Win game, you first need to know what Pay to Win is.

Pay to Win literally means you have to spend money to win.

If you spend money and lose, it is not Pay to Win."

What a bunch of absolute horseshit.

If I keep looking at people defending this game I might hate this game with a fiery passion. (Note, I didn't even actively look for this. It was just in my feed.)

@Fabricant451 Is this one right too? <.<

Because my real question/point, is you're making two separate arguments. 1. It has no bad practices. 2. Others games with bad practices are worse. (You do understand why one doesn't fit the other, yes?)

Video Games: The General Discussion & Community Thread Number Two

That twitter person is right.

@Fabricant451

The statement is vague and misses the point at best. But we'll agree to disagree. No game needs to be pay to win. To make money, or to get people to buy things in it.

1. Lost Ark isn't pay to win.

2. There are dozens of worse examples of bad monetization practices than Lost Ark.

@Fabricant451

Seems a bit contradicting in those statements. In what they're implying. But most bad monetization practices aren't so zealously defended. Like I'm seeing online. Not from you specifically mind.

You can't have sex with characters in those games, but you can in Lost Ark.

@Fabricant451

It all suddenly adds up.

But yeah, I have a feeling I wouldn't have a better time here than Torchlight. Though, it's nice that you had fun, I guess.

I mean even the people I've seen defending the game, casually talk about how it'll die down in hype and go away in a month. And for a f*cking MMO. That's NOT AT ALL a good thing. This isn't a flavor of the month indie title. A good MMO, will not die in a month.

Tell me that doesn't look like a mobile game RPG screen

I've looked up and seen one of the "cinematic dungeons" and they look nice enough.