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Dblade26 said
Interesting note, but Sorin's question is something Vash SHOULD already have an answer to and potentially not even be phased by in the slightest depending on what point in his timeline he's from, as it's near-identical to the initial problem posed by Knives about butterflies and spiders.


Oh I'm aware of the similarity to the butterfly/spider problem. I even loosely referenced it in my post. Problem is, Knives was totally right - it's impossible to save both. Vash didn't have an answer to that problem then - and I don't think he does now.

Edit: It's also slightly worse than the butterfly/spider problem because it frames Vash as the potential murderer, which I'm pretty sure Knives never brought up. I think I had originally planned to mention that in my post, but I may have forgotten to.

If he was attempting to make Vash reconsider anything at all, it really shouldn't work.


Well duh. I think I've even blatantly stated in the OOC that it'll be impossible to change Vash's mind on any of this. He's been presented with plenty of good arguments over the years as to why his logic doesn't work. But it doesn't matter - because he's dead-set in his ideals and he'll never change.

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@Dead Cruiser: I'm going to have to go with the others' suggestions and vote that you edit your post so that this never happened since at the moment you've thoroughly ticked off and alienated enough player characters to the point they have to attempt to kill off yours or else it would be OOC. Also the fact that this is turning into a huge cluster-ck situation and I don't want it to deteriorate any further, along with the fact that your character is powergaming to an extent.


I'll see if I can edit my post tonight, as well.

Edit: Oops, didn't realize how far back we were going. I guess I'm leaving that blank until everyone in front of me edits.
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And then time-space magic happened, which may or may not involve Keine eating history.

On a bit more serious note: DC, now that the event never happened, your second post has also been rendered moot. I'm assuming you will edit this as soon as the people before you have made a new post, but could you please snip it out for now for the sake of avoiding confusion?
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Keine is in charge of retconning RP's?

... Then what is Cirno in charge of?
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So... are we still waiting on Psyga to edit, or did Psyga just plan to cut out that part of his post and leave it, thus making it Rain's turn?
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Rain's still got to edit, but she's not home right now.
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Rain's still got to edit, but she's not home right now.


Ok, just making sure we were all on the same page regarding whose turn it is.
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This makes me glad I decided to have Ba'al sit this confrontation out, since I don't actually have to edit anything.
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Kaga said
So... are we still waiting on Psyga to edit, or did Psyga just plan to cut out that part of his post and leave it, thus making it Rain's turn?


I already edited my post so now he's having his attention turned on Kavinsky.
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This makes me glad I decided to have Ba'al sit this confrontation out, since I don't actually have to edit anything.


And I’m glad I’ve been avoiding the guild, so I don’t even know what’s going on!
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And I’m glad I’ve been avoiding the guild, so I don’t even know what’s going on!


Heh, guess I took the right moment to take a step back. You know, before Felt got drawn into the umpteenth clusterfuck.
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So... that video I linked in my latest post.

There's an intense philosophical debate going on in the comments section.

I am amused by this.
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So... that video I linked in my latest post.There's an intense philosophical debate going on in the comments section.I am amused by this.


Wait, wait, wait. There's actual worthwhile discussions going on in the comments section of a Youtube video? What heresy is this?
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Wait, wait, wait. There's actual worthwhile discussions going on in the comments section of a Youtube video? What heresy is this?


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Wait, wait, wait. There's actual worthwhile discussions going on in the comments section of a Youtube video? What heresy is this?


Well, some of those comments are better than others.

I'm just amused that people are debating this so intensely when all I got out of that scene was "Knives has a really good point - Vash's philosophy is extremely flawed but he's not going to change it no matter how solid Knives's reasoning is because he's Vash".
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Archer thinks the refusal to kill is naive and the ideal is doomed. But then again, this is also him:



Though he's trying again anyway, because of the rest of the route. XD
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Archer thinks the refusal to kill is naive and the ideal is doomed. But then again, this is also him:Though he's trying again anyway, because of the rest of the route. XD


Meanwhile, I already linked the butterfly/spider video so I don't think there's anything left to say about Vash's ideals.

Plus, it would be OOC for his mind to be changed by anyone, so... yeah. These debates won't change anything. At all.
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We are team stubborn! XD
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Saber, to be fair, has respect for Vash's ideals and the nobility of a desire to save as many people as possible. However, she still thinks it's impossible to avoid killing your enemies entirely...

... And for that matter feels there's some people so evil that the only response is to kill them. Case in point, Fate/zero Caster.

Fate/zero Caster is a bastard.
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/Zero Caster is utterly insane.
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