Nick's Clarity works on muscle memory too, but you're right, he doesn't have the speed or the strength to match Ray.

Ah? It has muscle memory too? Okay then, I guess it's more useful for fighting than I thought. Still that's pretty dangerous for Nick. He's going to need time to get used to those memories. Those are the punches of a heavy weight, if he's not careful, he could accidentally destroy his shoulders and knuckles with one punch.

There are quite a bit of things to consider for Nick's power. I can see where he could use it as a form of very shallow copy-cat powers. As in, he can't learn EVERYTHING about boxing from watching Ray. But he CAN learn some of Ray's moves. He can't just produce a boxing technique out of thin air from watching a boxer use a completely different move. Basically, if Ray uses a certain style of punching. Nick can instant learn what he just saw and use it with perfection. But he can only instant learn what he can see. He can't instant learn another style of punching if he has never seen it before. One boxing move does not equate all of boxing. Get what I'm saying? And yes, it includes muscle memories, and yes it requires that the muscles required are present. Nick can learn how to lift a car, doesn't mean his muscles will be able to handle it. It's not a true copy-cat skill. It's instant intelligence. Does that sound about right? It's how it worked in my mind, anyway.

Well he doesn't have ray's strength, but Nick is in good shape and he's a lot lighter, so with the same technique as the larger man he would be just as fast or faster. And as far as the clarity, he knows the basics of boxing just from watching ray throw one punch, because all of the subtle things that normal humans may look over about his form, angles of his shoulders, the way throws the punch and the way he retracts it, is an encyclopedia of knowledge to the superhuman ability to pay attention to these very tiny details. Plus its not like Nick has never seen a fight or a boxing match in his life prior to this, he knows the theory of how boxing works anyway, he just needed to be hit with a real life demonstration to put all that knowledge together in a cocktail of pure information and muscle memory.

Sorry guys, but I am going to have to drop out of this one. The IC has picked up a little too much steam and my workload has jumped exponentially.

Sorry guys, but I am going to have to drop out of this one. The IC has picked up a little too much steam and my workload has jumped exponentially.

Alright. Sad to see you go! Good luck with that work load. (:

Hey Hylian, I have a question or two about the electrokinesis power before I continue Heather's power development. I was looking more into the power, namely the super power wiki, and I was wondering if any of these abilities are off the table for this rp. I don't want to accidentally god mod. haha http://superpowers.wikia.com/wiki/Electrokinesis

Weight does not necessarily proportion to speed, especially in boxing :D Ray has had boxing as his focus for over ten years of his life. Plus, technique is only part of the speed. A good deal of it comes from muscle that Nick has not had the chance to build up yet. In any case, knowing the theory of boxing or fighting or how a person moves is useless once in the fight itself. Fighters have spent years studying each other, and in the end they still end up having to improvise on the go. If learning how to fight was all a person needed, then there wouldn't be anymore knockouts, and what fun would that be? xD

Hey Hylian, I have a question or two about the electrokinesis power before I continue Heather's power development. I was looking more into the power, namely the super power wiki, and I was wondering if any of these abilities are off the table for this rp. I don't want to accidentally god mod. haha http://superpowers.wikia.com/wiki/Electrokinesis

That has got me thinking of ways to creatively use enhanced agility. So far, I got nothing.

Well your character already showed he can speed up his reaction time, so if he tries that without moving, he could enter a state of heightened awareness where he can plan out every move before he makes it.

I'm looking at the wiki at the moment, it mentions enhanced aim, balance, endurance, and jumping. http://powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/Enhanced_Agility I think there are a couple ways to work with that. He could have a certain weapon that helps him in combat, since he would have enhanced aiming. Just a thought. : )

I'll have to mull some things over. I'm sure a power like agility has plenty of interesting applications. I'll just have to be creative!

So far, the most combat effective powers I see belong to Heather, Orion, Ray and Darrien. Of course, it goes without saying that everyone at this point won't lose to normal people, but I think these four are the most useful in a fight (This is considering their abilities ONLY)

Weight does not necessarily proportion to speed, especially in boxing :D Ray has had boxing as his focus for over ten years of his life. Plus, technique is only part of the speed. A good deal of it comes from muscle that Nick has not had the chance to build up yet. In any case, knowing the theory of boxing or fighting or how a person moves is useless once in the fight itself. Fighters have spent years studying each other, and in the end they still end up having to improvise on the go. If learning how to fight was all a person needed, then there wouldn't be anymore knockouts, and what fun would that be? xD

Ahh of course, but the ability to put a theory to physical movement is something that most people cant do, thats why the need to 'drill' to train their body to 'remember' how to move, even if their mind already knows how it works. Nicholas has a superhuman ability to bring that altogether in a way that nobody else can. http://powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/Adoptive_Muscle_Memory This is a subset of 'clarity' the ability to learn isnt just the speed in which he picks things up, its the way he learns. But I do take your point he may not be as fast just down to his weight, but I believe Nick is very agile anyway, regardless of his powers. definatley not as explosive as ray though. And as you say 'improvising' on the go is where Nick is actually miles ahead, as improvising is learning and reacting on the spot, which Nick's power allows him to do much more quickly and efficiently then anybody else.

You forget Vee, Hang. I'm pretty sure the ability to turn into the world's most efficient predetors is pretty combat effective.

Ahh of course, but the ability to put a theory to physical movement is something that most people cant do, thats why the need to 'drill' to train their body to 'remember' how to move, even if their mind already knows how it works. Nicholas has a superhuman ability to bring that altogether in a way that nobody else can. http://powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/Adoptive_Muscle_Memory This is a subset of 'clarity' the ability to learn isnt just the speed in which he picks things up, its the way he learns. But I do take your point he may not be as fast just down to his weight, but I believe Nick is very agile anyway, regardless of his powers. definatley not as explosive as ray though. And as you say 'improvising' on the go is where Nick is actually miles ahead, as improvising is learning and reacting on the spot, which Nick's power allows him to do much more quickly and efficiently then anybody else.

Understood. Actually, his clarity would be a real pain in the ass for most terrorists or robbers wouldn't they? Plus, if he learns how to pickpocket or break locks . . . well, you get the idea. Nick can end up as the most versatile member, depending on circumstance :D

So far, the most combat effective powers I see belong to Heather, Orion, Ray and Darrien. Of course, it goes without saying that everyone at this point won't lose to normal people, but I think these four are the most useful in a fight (This is considering their abilities ONLY)

Adding Vee, I'd agree with that. Emily seems like she'd be most useful getting information and wreaking havoc from a remote location (via her cellphone) - like the guy in the van from action movies as Vee pointed out. She'd be useful for planning and overseeing, less so in actual fighting unless it was a game of strategy. She knows tai chi though!

So far, the most combat effective powers I see belong to Heather, Orion, Ray and Darrien. Of course, it goes without saying that everyone at this point won't lose to normal people, but I think these four are the most useful in a fight (This is considering their abilities ONLY)

Notice how they are evenly split up? Sometimes, I do smart things. Sometimes. Also, I'm on my phone so replying to multiple things is hard, but I'll try. @Madame, I'll look over that after this class and make a post about it. Till, then I gtg.

I actually judged how effective they were in combat based on the speed and number of people they could take down: Orion with Telekinesis can really do some damage, especially if he gets his hands on explosives. Darrien can potentially turn an orange into a bio-weapon, and if he gets his hands on actual laboratory-grade acids . . . Heather with electricity does not need to be explained, but it should be mentioned that electricity + iron sand = black waves of death. Ray could cause instant cancer or just knock everyone out in one go. The wouldn't even be able to dodge. ^Oh yeah, now that you point it out . . .

I like Nick's power, he can just watch tv to train. haha