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here is my character!
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@ayzrules I like it, we're getting really interesting abilities here.

Feel free to throw it over to the CS-Tab.
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Will be posting a CS tonight, if you will still have me. *Sigh* Work has been kicking my butt lately.
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@Sand Looking forward to it.
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@Sep Once you approve of my idea I will be removing the WIP, and putting up the CS along with a typo hotfix.
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@Sep So am I good or do I need to change anything else?
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@bluetommy2 Balanced ability (that's nicely explained now :) ) and a good sample, yeah he's good to go.

I'm looking to get the IC up over the weekend.
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@Sepp Can I put me CS into the appropriate tab now?
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@6slyboy6 Me and @Vietmyke are yet to write up our review, please take your CS out of the CS tab.
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@Sep I will, but I knew this was the only way to make you reply XD

Also what review?
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@6slyboy6 I was going to reply, I do have other things IRL that require my attention.

Also you'll get a review soon enough, me and @Vietmyke are working on it and one of us will post it.
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@Sep okay sorry boss man. Honestly this wouldn't be the first superpower RP where the GM had a power similar to ym own charcater, so they simpyl stopped replying to me, and even called the MOD on me to make me go away. Since that I am especially cautious :P

Apologies m8 I will wait quietly here.
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@6slyboy6 My power isn't the same, The Watcher I am yet to post up and Cassie can just run fast.
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@Sep I know XD

But like I said, I am waaaay to careful about it. It was like a fucking shock to me that people would essentially rob your of your mental property, and tehn call the cops on you cause you are "bothering" them with you arguing that it's your shit. Like when questionable people steal your receipt in a mall, and then call teh security on you saying that you stole their shit. That's the worst.
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@6slyboy6, okay, so I have some things I'd like to address with this character that need to be ironed out.

Aside from the fact that he's essentially playboy Bruce Wayne with superpowers, I'm okay with the money rich kid attitude- (even though one could consider the power of capitalism another superpower of its own). What I'm not okay with, is the extent of his powers, which are, to be frank, excessive.

Blink teleporting, or LOS teleporting implies that there needs to be a line of sight in order for him to teleport, which means he can't and shouldn't be able to just blink to a place he can't see. I mean, its not too difficult to just shoot a glance to your left/right to ensure your path is clear and then blink. Same goes for the distance he's allowed to blink- which is currently stepping pretty deep into Heat's territory. I imagined the idea of blink teleporting as short range, fast, and tactical, as opposed to a means of transportation. Also, the ability for him to blink up to 43 times in a minute is pretty broken. He's only had his power for a month after all. Though there are several ways you could make blinking less broken- the way I suggest is limiting him to a blink every 3-4 seconds.

On to Tobias' second superpower: Capitalism! So Tobias is a rich playboy who also happens to know his way around guns, and martial arts and surprise!: Owns a private army. As a rule of thumb, PMCs generally aren't too big. Because the UN controls the Solar system- they're not about to let anyone else take a piece of their pie. So most PMC's are generally relegated to armed security details and space escorts for private sector companies and individuals. With that being said, there is definitely no way the UN would allow Mars- an area with increasing amounts of tension, to possess a private standing army. Enson's standing forces can be larger than the other PMC's by comparison, but not enough that they'd be able to stand toe to toe with the UN for an extended amount of time on their own.

Also, define "most of the weapons market", is this like 40% of the weapons market? which is an immense amount of the market for a single company to control. Or is it like 75%? 40 I'm okay with, 75, not so much. Also, are they an arms manufacturer? or a robotics and VI manufacturer? Enson can have their own robots, but it is highly unlikely they'll be as extensively used as UN robots- which aren't exclusively Lorne either.

Enson can be a powerful and influential company, and they can have a treaty with the UN/Lorne/USF- in fact, they'll likely be the primary arms manufacturers for the UN if this is the case, and I believe thats an interesting aspect that can be used in the RP, but it can't be a powerful, influential company that leads in multiple categories and owns a massive army.




Essentially, you can have power, but not that much power.
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@vietmyke Huh XD

Yes you are quite right.
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"What I'm not okay with, is the extent of his powers, which are, to be frank, excessive."

So you are saying that it is a lot? Hmm. Blinking is LOS limited by default, but it is inside either the rifting or teleporting family of powers. Put aside rifting as it is complicated, having the powers of teleportation manifest in a way of blinking, DOESN'T mean that he is unable to use any other power. This emans that he can Blink as his main ability, and most likely the onyl one he focuses on, but he also got a really tiny bit of the general TP ability. SO he can, what, teleport 1-2 meters through air to any palce behind him? It can't even pass walls, or if he is restrained it doesn't work. You'd assume that an ability that is only secondary has no real "hitting" power, and thus doesn't have the utility of a fully fledged superpower. As for the 43 Blinks under a minute, I think that is very real, because if you just discovered your ability to blink, you'd practice on either flat terrain, and or short distances.

For argument's sake, I'll nerf his main ability's current power, eg the distance and his casting speed, to 100 metres and an increasingly growing cast time. So that he can't use it too many times. I will, however, if possible keep his short range tp. It is a handy tool he doesn't use very much yet, but later on as he trains it could become potentially useful.

"On to Tobias' second superpower: Capitalism!"

Let me get this straight: he does NOT own teh corporation. His dad does, and he is a trouble kid who doesn't benefit from the company, apart from a motorbike and a dwelling. I wouldn't give my fucking kid a single penny if he kept coming home at 11PM.

"So most PMC's are generally relegated to armed security details and space escorts for private sector companies and individuals."

True, but Enson is also an arms manufacturer. Controls most of the market should also be taken as "having bigger share than any other companies" not a complete scale. I did research for this one, and it is plain that the US has 41 of the weapons market IRL. So in an alternate timeline where there are other planets to take care of too, along with amyn corporations that rise on those areas, we can safely assume that dues to some contract or what not, the UN only has around 30% market share, and Enson has around 35% in addition to manufacturing a few extra guns and robots for the UN. And yes, Enson makes robots (not the V.I. in it necessarely) AND guns. Those are, as you proposed, are given to the UN in a certain percentage, and the rest is sold on teh open market.

"Because the UN controls the Solar system- they're not about to let anyone else take a piece of their pie."

I covered it before with SEP, and I did say that Enson has no interest in power and control. It is mainly focused on making profits. And they wouldn't stand up agains the UN, who tehy have a contract with, and well their guns to.

In general I see your point. You could say I am also a problem child when making characters, thought here I didn't think my blink's power would be too OP at all. It's liek teh most one sided ability of all time. Even heat can do more than mine, and as such, I thought that having an easy ability could start a BIT more powerful. Anyhow, I'll edit my post to correspond to your thoughts.

Edit: Actually cut the share part. I looked at more graphs, and it seems that the biggest market share corporations, are around 13%, but you'd assume that a unified governement unifies the arms dealing to have a better control. And that Enson would give about 25% of all weapons to the Military. This still means that Enson has around 30% market share of all the INDEPENDANT non governemental market, and as such suppleis around 20% of all UN weaponary.
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@6slyboy6

Maybe you're underestimating the power that comes from the ability to rapidly blink so many times within a minute- 43 blinks within a minute is essentially 43 kills: Blink, shoot someone in the back of the head, blink, shoot another person in the back of the head: the ability to so rapidly do that is what I am limiting. In that respect, blinking has a lot of hitting power. But Sep and I agree, that you can blink backwards 1-2 meters.

Is Enson a Arms manufacturer? or a security service? If they were an arms manufacturer, it'd make sense that their protection teams have advanced equipment, but isn't particularly large- small and advanced as it were, capable of easily outclassing Peacekeepers and slightly superior to USF Regulars. Again, larger in comparison to other PMC's- in order to protect their own assets, and occasionally provide security services, but not large enough to challenge USF on their own. And the idea of focusing purely on profits rather than power is essentially Kevin-Spacey-COD-Advanced-Warfare waiting to happen. Keep in mind, that the largest of the Lorne company's pies are in robotics and programming.

Edit: Also, its not the idea that they would attempt to stand up to the UN is what I'm getting at, but the idea that they could stand up the UN that is the reasoning for limiting the size.

Anyway, those are our thoughts.
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@vietmyke Okay. I was expecting to get HAMMERED, but I am glad that won't happen.

As a sidenote of blinking, it is kinda hard for Tobias to blink and kill. Blinking leads to disorientation for anyone just starting to use it, and coming out of it, and aiming a gun lethally is hard. Also he doesn't have a gun. he can use it to some extent, but is not in any way a pro. That'll improve over time. I, however had time to think, adn I agree that it is a lot of blinks to travel. I can imagine him blinking around a person, hitting them from multiple sides, but with sap gloves that takes about 7-8 before they will surely go down. So Is it oaky to aheva slight increasing Blink time, and the record of 25?

"Kevin-Spacey-COD-Advanced-Warfare" Enson is just that. Now I won't say that it is teh same, however when I played AW, the idea I had in mind for Enson drastically changed to reflect a Kevin Spacey-like scenario. Not fully, but if you want the best idea, the two are kinda the same. Also biggest standing army of all PMCs. On Mars. I missed out on the PMC part in the initial post ,apologies.

That doesn't mean that the same scenario would happen. Honestly, I don't want to change the plot, having a good GM is like reading a good book. But it opens up new ways of approaching a situation for both teh palyers and the GM.

Enson primaliry makes small arms, and then a few armored vehicles. But mostly small arms. It also functions as a PMC using it's own weapons, which they largely use to provide a free advertisement for tehir products. Also, they are making cybernetic implants for their own use and the UN. Robotics are like a hobby, they are nowhere near Lorne's capacity and expertise. It's like comparing HTC to Samsung.
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@6slyboy6 I am here, just if you think I'm neglecting you. I'm discussing some points with Myke while working on an important psychology report.
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All of that sounds better.
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