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I returned Nika's Mithril, so if anyone wants a Mithril sword, it's now available.
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That's a shame :( You can come back anytime during other challenges or other stuff. We're always going to be open.

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They'd probably get rekt, the principal could probably take them with his bare hands.

Maaan, bronze and copper ain't too popular for this challenge. @Legion02 I'll respond sooner or later but I do have an exam tomorrow morning which I should be studying for.


At the present time, I will set aside my plans for this RP. If anither RP I am part of does not take off, I'll be here.
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It just feels a lot like he wouldn't be forging swords, going off of his history alone. I get a feel of like a sort of Victorian era darker mystery, if you know what I mean? I don't really mean anything by it, I just wanted to comment.


Going to be completely honest, that's probably because Myrstrost is based on Dark Souls
Here's the NS I originally used in case you wanted to look at it.


When I decided I didn't want to do an Ork, I was trying to think of what could I do to try and come up with something a bit different and my mind wandered back to Mystrost and I decided to run with that idea so there might be some sour notes. Also had a double purpose of possibly serving the RP as some location we'd all go to or something like that.

I'll be trying for a post soon, hopefully I don't fuck up the rules >.<
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They'd probably get rekt, the principal could probably take them with his bare hands.


Why? I would assume these kids know how to fight at least.
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@TheWindel That would probably depend on the character? I planned to make my character not that adept at fighting. He'll probably have the physique of a blacksmith, but experience in combat would be minimal. Hopefully, he gets carried by the other students when the fighting starts.
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Posted, I'm using a few extra bits of bronze since I thought it would make sense as Karthis is trying for a Great Sword which are larger than normal swords although if that is problematic, I'll change it to the normal amount. Also, Karthis is not going to be able to finish his sword in time

Hopefully I did the action thing right.
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Well, GG Aldous.

I'd ask what happened with the two action system, but...oh well.
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1. Make the sword
2. Make the sheathe
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Is..Is that how it works?
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Technically we have four max actions.

A max of two crafting things and then another max of 2 non-essential actions
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A limit of 2 combined banter or smithing actions are allowed per post before you have to wrap it up.

Banter actions include asking someone for advice, going over to another student's workshop to steal ideas, or something along those lines. Conversations unless collaborated will take their own individual posts. A smithing action is any single action during the smithing process such as smelting the metals, or hammering the sword etc.
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I feel like I have caused a kerfluffle @_@
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Well, it isn't any real conflict. Speed of the crafting doesn't make any difference in the ultimate conclusion of this challenge, but does...cheapen the experience, if your god sword was so simple it could be done in a few hours while you cook some pork.

Meh, I'll just drop this bone and have Nika do the best she can.
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Well, I'm getting really weird vibes from hours twisted things are getting. Really, should someone be able to do anything but an utter trashy weapon in more or less a morning, since lunch time isn't even up yet? Suddenly I got a heavy MMORPG vibe.
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Well, I'm getting really weird vibes from hours twisted things are getting. Really, should someone be able to do anything but an utter trashy weapon in more or less a morning, since lunch time isn't even up yet? Suddenly I got a heavy MMORPG vibe.


Ditto, I know that we're bending the rules and all but I think that crafting a sword in this should still at least take a solid day or two, we aren't making bird houses out of wood. Pumping out a sword in a few hours is a sure fire way of shoddy quality and not to mention that given we are in an academy, I'd assume that we'd still have classes of some sort or some other form of instructions plus the fact that we're all technically still kids, we can't hammer away at something for hours on end even if we have endless passion, we'd get tired or bored and have to take a decent number of breaks.
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If people want to rush and make their swords, that's fine. They just have to realize a sword made in 2 hours is probably going to be a shitty sword.
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Honestly I don't see the big deal in time taken. If actual smiths can make something decently functional on a reality tv show it really shouldn't be such a slog to make one sword as opposed to I dunno whatever an actual order for supplying a worth of arms would take arm a squad of soldiers. Also only reason japanese swords take so long to make is because of half religious mumbo jumbo rituals and because their metal are garbage.

Plus there's the really important fact that the GM is handwaving the intricacies away of smithing so none of this really matters at all.

Also I have no idea why it matters to KoL so much given he made a character that was specifically removed from the main aspect of the game. It feels like he's trying to backseat GM which is honestly pretty uncouth.
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Honestly I don't see the big deal in time taken. If actual smiths can make something decently functional on a reality tv show it really shouldn't be such a slog to make one sword as opposed to I dunno whatever an actual order for supplying a worth of arms would take arm a squad of soldiers. Also only reason japanese swords take so long to make is because of half religious mumbo jumbo rituals and because their metal are garbage.


No, its not just Japanese swords, any forged weapon of decent quality takes over a day. If you look at something like Men At Arms, they will take multiple days to forge a sword or whatever, hence why it takes like two weeks for them to put out a video. Stuff like Game of Throne and the LOTR movies have teams of smiths from a lot of different places working on orders at once plus they tend to only really go detailed on weapons and armor of major characters and will usually find ways to skimp out on lesser character's equipment.

There's also another major part of it that leads into a question of my own and that is technology. With modern CNC plasma cutters and motor driven grinders, you can easily cut out a frame of a sword, polish up, make it sharp and give it some fittings like a handle wrap, pommel and guard easily an with a rather high production number as you're effectively mass producing swords. However, I am assuming we have none of those kinds of technology and we can't say "oh I have magical item/spell X which does this and basically acts as modern tool Y".

Everyone has to draw and shape the blade by hand (not an easy task), shape and polish by stone grinders or some form of sandpaper-like grind paper (also not easy) and then fit everything else by hand. We can't even rely on power hammers to lessen the work, we have to do everything by hand with technology that is a solid 400-500 past of our modern day.
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Honestly I don't see the big deal in time taken. If actual smiths can make something decently functional on a reality tv show it really shouldn't be such a slog to make one sword as opposed to I dunno whatever an actual order for supplying a worth of arms would take arm a squad of soldiers. Also only reason japanese swords take so long to make is because of half religious mumbo jumbo rituals and because their metal are garbage.

Plus there's the really important fact that the GM is handwaving the intricacies away of smithing so none of this really matters at all.

Also I have no idea why it matters to KoL so much given he made a character that was specifically removed from the main aspect of the game. It feels like he's trying to backseat GM which is honestly pretty uncouth.


First thing, before you accuse other people, be sure that you have base for such as I'm pretty sure I never did anything to warrant such a claim as the one you did.

Either way, handwaving the processes is one thing, making them into MMO mechanics is another, which kinda makes the whole point of this RP very moot, if that process can even be considered legitimate swordsmithing.

Just read what @ClocktowerEchos said. Most of these modern smiths use modern materials, tools and techniques, those processes don't even produce a combat ready sword, just show pieces and even then they do take time. Man at arms for example, most of the time, cuts theirs swords from sheets of steel, instead of the complicated folding and cooling and folding again process that ensures that an actual sword will not become a piece of brittle cast iron.

Of course I don't want to complicate things or induce anyone to review their actions, I know for a fact that metallurgy is a complicated business and smiting is an even more complicated one. However, there's an eight posts/one IC week time limit to do the sword. Would if be so bad to at least make it in a less cringe worthy manner? Especially considering that there's no way to get more materials to cover up for a failure?

Anyway, my commentaries are not meant to change anything in the RP, I just like to give my opinion because this is plain pointless is all the sword forging on this RP was to learn how to melt steel and pour it on a mold.
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Ditto, I know that we're bending the rules and all but I think that crafting a sword in this should still at least take a solid day or two, we aren't making bird houses out of wood. Pumping out a sword in a few hours is a sure fire way of shoddy quality and not to mention that given we are in an academy, I'd assume that we'd still have classes of some sort or some other form of instructions plus the fact that we're all technically still kids, we can't hammer away at something for hours on end even if we have endless passion, we'd get tired or bored and have to take a decent number of breaks.


Oh, yeah, should have addressed this as well. Sorry for the possible double post.

I indeed assume that there should be classes were they learn all kind of processes and lore about sword making and smiting (perhaps even more general subjects to a lesser degree), even if we aren't RPing them (for obvious reasons), otherwise the place shouldn't call itself an academy, but only a very loosely grouped workshop.

And indeed, no matter how passionate one is, the body will always wins sooner or later. Anyone who ever tried to do any kind of hand work knows how taxing that is. It's a good effort in the end (most of the time) but tiresome nonetheless. When you have to do something as hard as smiting, which involves heat, noxious fumes, heavy lifting and hammering as well as mental effort to always keep things under control, it breaks the willing suspension of disbelief very easily to see someone go at it like a robot.
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