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Oh, man, I just noticed...

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It's Jun-Sang, not Sang-Jun. The entire thing is the given name, and it's always written in that order.
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@CondorTalon My bad! I fixed it. Don't know why I swapped it like that. Haha.
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Alright, so those powers. First, guns or anything that are similarly as deadly as guns are not allowed in the RP at all (as the vast majority of the characters don't really have anything that can counter guns), so that brass knuckle move has to go. Second, I'm assuming that the truth ability is based on being able to see the body's physical reaction to lying, kind of like Toph's lie detector ability in Avatar, right? Third, the counteraction and disagreeing powers sound like very weird, abstract and pretty OP powers, some of which border on mind control. And finally, I'm uneasy about allowing teleportation and turning invisible unless they have some easily counterable aspects to them

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Hm. This power is kinda weird, because it seems both overpowered and underpowered at the same time. The whole reason the energy mechanic is in the RP (other than because it's a common shounen anime thing) is because it's a universal balancing mechanism. That way, even if someone has a super powerful...well, power, they can't keep using it forever cause they'll run out of energy eventually. But if she decides to super charge their character's energy, they could potentially be able to use their power for much longer. But the ability is also underpowered in that...well, she doesn't really have any moves of her own or a way of defending herself
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Alright, so those powers. First, guns or anything that are similarly as deadly as guns are not allowed in the RP at all (as the vast majority of the characters don't really have anything that can counter guns), so that brass knuckle move has to go. Second, I'm assuming that the truth ability is based on being able to see the body's physical reaction to lying, kind of like Toph's lie detector ability in Avatar, right? Third, the counteraction and disagreeing powers sound like very weird, abstract and pretty OP powers, some of which border on mind control. And finally, I'm uneasy about allowing teleportation and turning invisible unless they have some easily counterable aspects to them

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On teleportation: Perhaps a pre-image is visible at the destination point for a split second before the teleportation actually occurs?

On invisibility: Those vibrations are loud. Very loud. And they generate a lot of heat due to friction. While the eyes can't follow the user themselves, other sense can take over in a pinch, and vibrating like that while on the ground may kick up dust or cause excess wear on the surface.
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vampiric powers that can have you potentially have more than average power but you need to drink blood in order to regenerate? also human blood > animal blood and fresh blood (from da neck neck yo) > prepackaged blood?

EDIT: by regenerate, I mean get power back
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That's it...

If anyone as much as LOOKS at my grandpa Daler in the wrong way, they're going to be in deep trouble.

He is so kind and caring! <3 OMG he is soo sweet!

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vampiric powers that can have you potentially have more than average power but you need to drink blood in order to regenerate? also human blood > animal blood and fresh blood (from da neck neck yo) > prepackaged blood?

I'm assuming you're just talking about powers that happen to resemble a vampire and not actually being a vampire? Anyway, drinking blood is a very random and specific way to get energy, but I suppose that wouldn't be bad. The only problem is where do you go from there? You can't really do anything with just pure energy, you need some actual abilities in order to actually use the energy. It would be like having an unlimited supply of gasoline but not owning a car
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Musashi is still going to demand he teach him the ways of curry if he ever finds out how amazing it is, too.

Daler: The grumpy old grandpa everybody likes!

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I'm assuming you're just talking about powers that happen to resemble a vampire and not actually being a vampire? Anyway, drinking blood is a very random and specific way to get energy, but I suppose that wouldn't be bad. The only problem is where do you go from there? You can't really do anything with just pure energy, you need some actual abilities in order to actually use the energy. It would be like having an unlimited supply of gasoline but not owning a car


was just asking if that was an approved way to get energy
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Sure, it's not OP or against the rules or anything. I just dunno if you'd really want it since your character would be kinda underpowered
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Maybe something like Himiko Toga's quirk from Boku no Hero?
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That's it...

If anyone as much as LOOKS at my grandpa Daler in the wrong way, they're going to be in deep trouble.

He is so kind and caring! <3 OMG he is soo sweet!

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Don't worry too much, he can (mostly) take care of himself
Meilin would've seen him put down an unruly student or ten in her time with him.
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Alright, so those powers. First, guns or anything that are similarly as deadly as guns are not allowed in the RP at all (as the vast majority of the characters don't really have anything that can counter guns), so that brass knuckle move has to go. Second, I'm assuming that the truth ability is based on being able to see the body's physical reaction to lying, kind of like Toph's lie detector ability in Avatar, right? Third, the counteraction and disagreeing powers sound like very weird, abstract and pretty OP powers, some of which border on mind control. And finally, I'm uneasy about allowing teleportation and turning invisible unless they have some easily counterable aspects to them


I mean... The "gun" part wouldn't really be fatal in the first place. It'd be the size of the God of Death's finger gun in Assassination Classroom since it's inside a pair of brass knuckles. But does that mean the whole power is out or just that move? I can't tell which you meant.
I figured it would work off of alterations in a person's inner energy, but that would work too.
Yeah, I intended that counter move to be very risk-reward. Since normally all it would be is a shield against really strong attacks that take long enough to be reacted to, and the only ways to make it offensive require taking the hit or basically taking the hit twice and trying to be the one left standing.
The memetic power is sort hard for me to defend. That's why I tried to make it really hard for it to be used very effectively. I should've specified that it only works on one idea per person at a time and gave it a cooldown of a week per person. I also think I probably worded it poorly by saying "idea," but I couldn't think of a better way to put it.
I mean, the invisibility part would be making a pretty high-pitched sound that someone could track as a side-effect. And like @Azereiah said, there's a lot of heat generated and friction would be wearing down whatever they're standing on. So constant, careful movement would be the only way to make it viable in combat, otherwise it would be more for sneaking and even then there's the high frequency.
Similarly, I like Azereiah's idea of a pre-image where the teleportation is going to occur during the time it's being planned. Plus starting out with a 5 second cooldown and lack of cost-effective control limiting the number of teleports per day, and starting out with only being able to teleport to somewhere she either can see or has been before would be another balancing factor.

Again, these are really just the barest bones rough drafts to see if the concept of the power is viable before I go about giving them serious balancing and development. Since I want to build the character around the power, I just want to figure out what power I can build around before I bother building the power up to a final draft level of complexity.
Sorry about the trouble.

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On teleportation: Perhaps a pre-image is visible at the destination point for a split second before the teleportation actually occurs?

On invisibility: Those vibrations are loud. Very loud. And they generate a lot of heat due to friction. While the eyes can't follow the user themselves, other sense can take over in a pinch, and vibrating like that while on the ground may kick up dust or cause excess wear on the surface.


That's a good idea and something I sort of thought was obvious enough that I totally forgot to mention, respectively, so thank you for both of those.
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That's a good idea and something I sort of thought was obvious enough that I totally forgot to mention, respectively, so thank you for both of those.


Physics tends to be forgotten in sci-fi and fantasy fiction a lot. What seems obvious isn't always, as I found when I had to re-design Jonathan's powers.

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Physics tends to be forgotten in sci-fi and fantasy fiction a lot. What seems obvious isn't always, as I found when I had to re-design Jonathan's powers.

Let's get this thing knocked out so you can join in ASAP


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@13org I just realized, if Musashi sees Meilin's martial arts, he's totally gonna fanboy over her and want her to teach him stuff.
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@13org I just realized, if Musashi sees Meilin's martial arts, he's totally gonna fanboy over her and want her to teach him stuff.


A pre-emptive welcome to the class, then! We have tea, curry, coffee, and ass kickings on demand.
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Curry!!

That would be adorable XD
I think Meilin will be an wonderful teacher
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Just the gun move. The brass knuckles are fine, in fact I feel like that's the ability I like the most

Hm, the invisibility thing might actually be pretty interesting if you can hear them when they're invisible actually

I guess as long as you have those weaknesses for teleportation they're alright

Personally, I would probably go for either the brass knuckles or vibration powers (or maybe the teleportation, but I'd prefer the other two). The other ones I feel are too abstract to really keep in check effectively
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Just the gun move. The brass knuckles are fine, in fact I feel like that's the ability I like the most

Hm, the invisibility thing might actually be pretty interesting if you can hear them when they're invisible actually

I guess as long as you have those weaknesses for teleportation they're alright

Personally, I would probably go for either the brass knuckles or vibration powers (or maybe the teleportation, but I'd prefer the other two). The other ones I feel are too abstract to really keep in check effectively


Fair enough. I'll get to work on those two, then.
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