Hmm, to give my opinion I honestly do not think the warning should have been given in the first place. For one, looking at the post we were marching for several hours into a forest on a mission to hunt a monster that may or may not kill us all. This shows me that we have left the relative safety of Orello and the fort and could get attacked at any time. This alone to me implies the sense that we could be ambushed, especially if alone since predators love to eat sheep separated from the flock first. It is why a military today usually will not only just post one person as a guard for an area, but rather post two in the same area or have that one person able to be seen by another and vice versa.

But I have been in a lot of military RPs and know a bit about military stuff in general, though by no means an expert. My conclusions may be a bit biased as far as what others would be thinking. After all, it is hard to take into account someone else not knowing a thing you know.

I understand why the warning was given, but it was definitely one that you could construe as sorta singling you out.

@Bushman501

It's more a GM courtesy than anything. If we just didn't tell you there was danger nearby and hit you with it anyway, that'd make us jerks. Think of this way; if any of your characters are in a life or death situation and are in danger of permanently dying, we're going to warn you of that possibility. Thus, if you want to reconsider actions or not, you have the chance to do so.

I understand why the warning was given, but it was definitely one that you could construe as sorta singling you out.

It was a warning applicable to every RPer in Notes but seeing as Leon and Natsu were the ones positioned away from the group and/or likely to distance themselves, they were Mentioned.

Seriously, this isn't a severe matter and it's been blown way out of proportion. A warning is not always cause for alarm, but consideration.

@TheWindel

This makes perfect sense to me. Having been in a GMing position before, I also agree that this should be done.

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It was a warning applicable to every RPer in Notes but seeing as Leon and Natsu were the ones positioned away from the group and/or likely to distance themselves, they were Mentioned.

Seriously, this isn't a severe matter and it's been blown way out of proportion. A warning is not always cause for alarm, but consideration.

That's true, but when I read it, the mention did have an inkling of "huh, reads a bit like poking at those two a bit more".

There really shouldn't have been the escalation, given it was really just a small thing and all, but you could see how it could've been misconstrued and read into.

@Crimmy

Yeah, I got that same feeling when I read it earlier too, but it was not having to do with me so I didn't think anything of it. Guess it was just the wording.

So you know, I originally did not intend to reply. I only gave my piece since Merc said his.

Apologies for the delay. Been a little busy but things are clearing up now.

@Leotamer @Bushman501 @Mercurial @Crimmy

All of you are reading far more into it than my posts were supposed to mean. It's not even a matter of poor wording on my side but rather of you jumping to conclusions. Let me explain it by parts, in the most neutral and educate way possible:

- While it may be true that no warning was needed, given that players should be able to understand that their actions may have consequences and realize when or not their characters are in potential danger, experience as GMs told us that this isn't the case for everyone. A mature player should be able to take a simple friendly warning without getting offended.

- We, especially I, don't like to kill, or cause any permanent damage to PCs whether it's rightful or uncalled for. I just don't see the fun in doing this as a GM. Plus, like I said above, a lot of players don't have the maturity to accept the loss. Therefore, avoiding it whenever possible is the best conduct from both GM and player's sides.

- That said, we will not hesitate to penalize players that had been warned, some times more than once, both IC and OOC about the possible consequences of their actions. Otherwise, the story would lose any sense of tension.

- Adding to the points above. Experience also told us that general warnings are good (I think all of you notice that we try to keep as many channels of communication open as possible), but directed ones are more effective. This is a simple management procedure. Blunt warnings capture a person's attention much easier, thus they are more efficient in getting the message through. Again, you need maturity to take them and not feel offended.

- I may have misjudged your capacity to interpret my words but know that it was because actually, I had a high opinion of all of you as a group of players. This RP is the most enjoyable I'm GMing at the moment and the fact that the first big problem for it only came up now, shows that most of my trust wasn't misplaced. I still keep my opinion about all of you, by the way. One bump in the road shouldn't be enough to ruin the ride, even if it makes it less pleasant than it should be.

- That said, I'll try to be more mindful of my phrasing, in the OOC, in the future. Since I may have misjudged the level of emotional development of some of you. I don't want to bring age and lifestyles on this thread, so please, don't mention it, I realize we are very much like a mixed bag and it's very good this way.

- However, I hope that you don't take any future comments, warnings, etc., that are made in a milder language as patronizing or snide. If you do so, we will be in a Catch 22 situation where the GMs are always in the wrong. A discussion can't be maintained under such conditions.

- Lastly, we will not tolerate uncalled for disrespect, especially when one of the sides doesn't even allow the other to justify/clarify their point before slamming the metaphorical door on their face. We will be very emphatic with this. We are treating you with the utmost respect and will demand the nothing less from you.

- To conclude, @Mercurial, I said this:

I'm sure that Leon (when/if he's around the group and feels like cooperating) can make some more to help with whatever Regina is thinking.

Because I don't control your characters action. The decision to help or not was supposed to be yours. I thought that it was a given, but sadly you've mistaken even something so basic. I should add as well that it was a consideration made because he did show a growing dislike for authority in the IC (for uncalled for reason that doesn't concern this discussion, should I say), so it was just situational remark. It wasn't ill intentioned, but then again, some things need a bit of maturity to take and don't get offended.

You clearly demonstrated that you have neither maturity or know the basic principles of civility. I can't argument with or GM to a person that behaves like this.

From now onward you are banned from this RP. Don't worry about your character, though. Like I said, I don't take a single bit of pleasure from killing PCs. I have my own characters that I can kill, main and rape while feeling guilty free. Leon will just be missing and nothing else.

That this is the end of the discussion. Anything else, take it to the PMs.

I'll probably post again tomorrow. It would give me time to think of a plan Regina would think of because the princess's plan is insanely high risk for everyone involved for low reward needs work.

I'll probably post again tomorrow. It would give me time to think of a plan Regina would think of because the princess's plan is insanely high risk for everyone involved for low reward needs work.

PS: Think of the glory! Think of the ladies (even if you are one of them) falling in love with your war stories!

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PS: Think of the glory! Think of the ladies (even if you are one of them) falling in love with your war stories!

If Regina felt like having glory, she'd do something even more insane: impale a Roc with a large punji spike pit using the royalty and nobles as bait.

I have a few more questions. What do we know about Rocs? Like do they hunt near their nests or are they long range hunters for example.

Do we know of about my weaknesses or fears that Rocs have?

How determined are they to pursue prey?

How is the weather currently(unless I missed that in the post)?

Finally, how do they usually attack? Like in swarms or are they usually solo hunters?

I have a few more questions. What do we know about Rocs? Like do they hunt near their nests or are they long range hunters for example.

Do we know of about my weaknesses or fears that Rocs have?

How determined are they to pursue prey?

How is the weather currently(unless I missed that in the post)?

Finally, how do they usually attack? Like in swarms or are they usually solo hunters?

Good questions. I'll answer them later, or at most tomorrow.

My post will be coming tomorrow. Is there anyone else we're waiting on?

I'm think I'm going to drop from this game. I've missed too much and it's just hard for me to slot Anne anywhere at this point. I wish you all good luck.

@Onarax

Farewell for now.

@Onarax

See ya.

@Bushman501

Ok, time for the replies to the previous questions.

Rocs are enormous birds of prey rarely seen anywhere else outside of the high peaks of the World's End Strait and its vicinity. While they are young, they tend to hunt in flocs and stay on the main land, Their favorite prey tend to be livestock or other large herbivores.

Adult ones ones are solitary and very territorial. It's widely believed that a single adult female rules all of the area of the strait pushing adult males away who are forced hunt in the nearby ocean. Once any juveniles reach adulthood, the dominant female forces them out of the area as well, unless of the younger females overthrows her rulership and becomes the new dominant.

They don't tend to put too much effort in seeking prey since it's rare for anyone to escape a roc to begin with. If a prey is too hard to catch they have to find another one as fast as possible since rocs require massive amounts of food to remain alive. They aren't made to be pursuit predators. Also, juvenile learn fast, if they see one of the group being hurt or dying because of a stupid maneuver, they'll avoid repeating the same mistake at all costs.

One important detail is that juvenile rocs are usually hunted for their feathers, by those who are brave enough, which can fetch quite a high price when used as stuffing for pillows and mattresses.

As for the weather, it's clear with a few clouds. Overall, a very nice day, except for the giant birds of death above.

Hmm interesting. So there is not really a need to kill them. Just play hard to catch.

EDIT: Finally, post is up. Let me know if there are any problems.