@Rune_Alchemist

I understand your point, don't worry. You're by no way being hostile.

But the point is: its impossible to know that she took quite a lot of damage. In your post, the sensation it passed was literally that she shrugged off that attack without any complication. There is no additional info saying "oh, I took some damage" or something like that.

The target finding spell is not 'homing bullets' (she actually has a spell for that, but only purely magical projectiles), but simply something that helps her find the optimal trajectory & etc.

About the one-shotting thing: I never wanted that. But just be mindful of one thing. If someone gets close to Yasha and hits her with a sword, she will be gravely wounded. There is no 'mumbo jumbo' to save her. With enough power, a melee character able to keep up with her fly spell could literally slowly cut of her arms, legs until there is nothing remaining. She is just a human regarding her defenses.

I understand the tactic about not showing her wounds, but... in your post...

"All Yasha was doing was just pissing her off more."

"a much more powerful explosion than she had expected - but nothing she couldn't handle. If Yasha was expected screams, no, all she'd hear was laughter as the explosion leveled the entire area. Senna seemed to almost ignore it entirely as even the blast from the explosion didn't seem to stun, knock her off her feet, or even hinder her speed. She could feel the blast of magic burning her back - her tail might have gotten a little singed, almost."

You see? You don't mention the fact that she actually took damage or anything. She literally shrugged off a glass cannon's most powerful spell without even falling down, without even feeling anything at all.

In your CS, the weakness section says: "The most obvious weakness of Senna's is the incredible lack of defense. Oh, certainly thanks to her class she has a massive pool of health compared to most other classes, but with armor reduction equivalent to light armor she takes the full brunt of any sort of damage dealt."

But... she literally took a magical nuke to the face without even flinching...

i'm not trying to be aggressive or anything, but I really don't feel like Yasha can do ANYTHING against Senna... Yasha just used her strongest spell. As I said previously, I designed this spell to take an entire post just to cast, only firing it on the other one.
Yasha has very obvious and blatant weaknesses, she cannot hide herself after she shoots, needing to reposition herself. She is basically a human regarding her defenses. I repeat, if Senna got near yasha and hit her by surprise, she would DIE. Yes. Die. No magical shield... If she took a swing to cut Yasha's arm, that is exactly what would happen.

And I didn't even mention Selena... Selena did nothing at all against Senna. Her attacks, her curses... everything was absolutely useless...

I ask once more: What would Yasha be able to do? She just fired her strongest spell, and NOTHING happened. I can't simply fire it twice because it would be overpowered and ridiculous, since it is supposed to be a spell with a long casting time. Other bullets, no matter what I do, simply don't affect Senna.

Her


pretty much negated Yasha's shots. And they're not puny shots... Yasha is made to be a glass cannon. And I mean a REAL glass cannon. Touch her, and she will shatter into a million pieces

The way I see, Senna is both an unkillable tank and a fast and agile assassin.

I mean, I didn't mean to literally one shot Senna. Since she has her amulet, I thought that it would be enough to save her from death, but not without temporarily incapacitating her.

@13org

I'm unsure what exactly the problem here is.

I understand your point, don't worry. You're by no way being hostile.

But the point is: its impossible to know that she took quite a lot of damage. In your post, the sensation it passed was literally that she shrugged off that attack without any complication. There is no additional info saying "oh, I took some damage" or something like that.

That's the entire point? Yasha isn't supposed to know how much damage she did, and she did more or less shrug it off without complication. At least, that's how it will look. But she did take damage.

You see? You don't mention the fact that she actually took damage or anything. She literally shrugged off a glass cannon's most powerful spell without even falling down, without even feeling anything at all.

In your CS, the weakness section says: "The most obvious weakness of Senna's is the incredible lack of defense. Oh, certainly thanks to her class she has a massive pool of health compared to most other classes, but with armor reduction equivalent to light armor she takes the full brunt of any sort of damage dealt."

But... she literally took a magical nuke to the face without even flinching...

Again, Senna doesn't flinch. Senna was moving/attacking something when the spell hit, meaning it couldn't have thrown her off course - normally. She did feel something. She felt a lot of something. I just didn't think it needed to spend a paragraph detailing that since it wouldn't really add much. Think about it like 'Hyper Armor' from Dark Souls 3 or Bloodborne.

Admittedly - thinking about it, I may have flubbed that a little bit since I think the Living Artillery spell would be powerful enough to at least cause her to have to change trajectory or something, but the end result would mostly stay the same.

But again, I didn't mention she took massive damage of any kind because it wouldn't be visible to Yasha.

I ask once more: What would Yasha be able to do? She just fired her strongest spell, and NOTHING happened. I can't simply fire it twice because it would be overpowered and ridiculous, since it is supposed to be a spell with a long casting time. Other bullets, no matter what I do, simply don't affect Senna.

pretty much negated Yasha's shots. And they're not puny shots... Yasha is made to be a glass cannon. And I mean a REAL glass cannon. Touch her, and she will shatter into a million pieces

The way I see, Senna is both an unkillable tank and a fast and agile assassin.

I mean, I don't understand why you say nothing happened or you say she's a tank. Something did happen, again - I just didn't advertise her injuries since she's not advertising them in an obvious way. I repeat, that if Yasha got two-three of her bullets to hit Senna, then she'd be dead. And I'm not talking about stunned/KO'ed. Dead. As in gone. Afterlife. A tank wouldn't be able to do that.

You don't have to fire the spell twice. Just have fired another lower-powered shot and Senna would have been dead. She wouldn't have been able to see it coming in any way shape form or fashion, especially if it was masked by the explosion or immediately followed up by it.

As for the amulet - if it was capable of stopping those bullets, then it would have disintegrated before it got to Senna - which it didn't because one grazed her side. They were too strong, and thus if they hit her, would have shaved off at least half of her HP. Other bullets would work if they hit - that's the thing - they have to hit. Have you tried a barrage fire instead of sniping? Just like, unloading a stream of bullets. That would be extremely effective against Senna. The reason sniping and slow firing isn't particularly effective is because all she has to do is just stay moving, or contort her body in an unexpected or unnatural way to avoid it.

Essentially, Senna is supposed to be the embodiment of an 'unstoppable force'. She is far from an unkillable tank if someone can land a few decent hits on her - she just doesn't stop moving or attacking. No matter what, because if she did, then she'd be dead because of how much of a weak easy target she is.

I mean, I didn't mean to literally one shot Senna. Since she has her amulet, I thought that it would be enough to save her from death, but not without temporarily incapacitating her.

I think you may be overestimating the power of that amulet. It's not that strong - against other blood magic it would be much more effective, but I the only time I wrote it affecting Yasha's magic was when she did that 'Area of Denial' thing with the holy magic. And even then it affected her. Just made her a bit uncomfortable as you said it probably would.

Lemme put it like this - if Senna hadn't had stacks of her 'Bloodlust' perk, that attack would have killed her. Which is why I noted in the post

She landed on top of The ramparts in a rather graceful manner as the rage she was feeling started to subside, if only slightly. Only enough for her to quell the unthinking rage.

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I'm...not really sure what more I could say here. It seems we just disagree on how much I need to write about the damage Senna took? As well as the overall understanding of her abilities and how they work? I mean, I can write a few more paragraphs or little thoughts about it, but Senna isn't going to be making a big deal about any damage she takes - thus making writing about it moot since it wouldn't be visible to Yasha.

@Rune_Alchemist

You know that you don't need to SHOW it, but simply let me AS A PLAYER know that it did something... She wasn't even affected by the shockwave! Nothing happened. Literally nothing. I as a player don't know what to do anymore. My strongest spell was useless, then its simply unthinkable that weaker spells will do any effect at all.

The thing isn't showing Yasha how much damage it did, but showing me as a player. I need to know something in order to write...

PS: Slow firing? Its a magical rifle... Expect at least it to be as fast as a regular sniper bullet. It seems you're treating them as arrows or something... Sure, Senna has enhanced reflexes, but even though... Even if Yasha shot at her from behind cover, without Senna seeing her, she still can dodge that on a whim, and to top it off, she can literally tank a nuke...

ps: I did fire a barrage of bullets. and nothing happened. Again, I don't know what to do as a player. Since normal bullets were simply useless against her, I tried using spells, but they proved to be useless as well, even the most powerful spell. Not counting as any shot she takes never hits anything. Senna can literally dodge a shot without seeing it. Even if Yasha shot her by surprise.
Yasha is not a machine gunner. She is a sniper. Her rifle is not a weapon focused towards DPS, but to BURST DPS. She does insane amounts of damage per shot, but she cannot just turn her rifle into an automatic weapon.

Next post I will make yasha get down so Senna can kill her. All it will take is one attack. A single attack, since Yasha is a glass cannon.
Yasha is strong offensively? no doubt. But she will DIE if Senna touches her. There isn't anything to save her. No magic armor, no armor, nothing... And honestly? I don't know what to do anymore. Senna's lack of defense should be one of her weaknesses, but instead, she is ridiculously tanky...

Just make Senna throw her sword on Yasha's direction. Lets get this over with already...

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I'm going to be completely honest here:

I'm sorry, I know I'm being salty and bitchy about all this, but I simply don't know what to do. Yasha will simply run away, since she cannot do anything to Senna. Its simply illogical that her strongest shot wont be able to even graze her, not doing anything at all, but a normal shot will kill her. The only way I could do anything was if I used OOC information, things that Yasha wasn't supposed to know.

@13org@Rune_Alchemist

Don't sweat it. We'll figure something out that works for both of you.

I guarantee it~

@13org

Okay...I've tried explaining Senna's abilities as best as I can, so here's the last thing I can really say as an example on how Senna's abilities work.

My other character, Lena, is a tank. She can turtle behind her shield and take a damn lot of punishment from repeated attacks at the cost of basically having zero agility and not being all to quick.

Senna is not a tank - She can shrug off a blow, but she can't do it repeatedly unless she heals. That's not the same as 'tanking' a hit. It's more of 'blow trading' And only - only if she's already moving mind you. If she was standing still when that blow hit her, she'd be knocked to kingdom come and probably stunned momentarily. Maybe even killed. This ability does not grant her higher defense or the ability to take more damage.

That's what makes her such a dangerous fighter. Low HP and Defense, incredibly devastating, tireless offense and agility along with her resistance to physical and mental debuffs. Two shots in any part of her body and she'd fall over dead...which is why I have to make it hard for Yasha to hit her. Otherwise...she'd be about as dangerous as a mosquito. One shot if it's a head shot, and she doesn't have a max stack of Bloodlust.

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I said, if you wanted me too, I would make a rewrite detailing more of the damage done. Yasha still wouldn't be able to tell any amount of Damage done to Senna though. Maybe blood leaking from her armor - but with the amount of damage she's done it'd be impossible to tell if it was hers or someone else's, and with her perks she still wouldn't physically react.

Which is why I told you OOCly that Senna basically has 1HP left - because it wouldn't be obvious that she's hurt ICly.

So do you want me to do a rewrite? Or do you have another suggestion?

I suppose I could just have Senna flee the city as well, since she's no longer 100% rage-addled at the moment.

"Low Hp and defense" That is not true. She just tanked a magical nuke to the face with her health alone. At least that is what you wrote on your post. Yasha just did everything she could. She sent an area denial attack that was easily and completely nullified by Senna's amulet, she sent a myriad of different shells and Senna was still able to dodge them even though Yasha was shooting from a hidden position, not counting her strongest and ultimate spell... killing many innocent bystanders, and it still was useless against her. completely and utterly useless. Senna on the other hand is simply killing everything on sight, with incredible agility while shrugging off Selena's curses, Selena's attack, Yasha's shots...

I don't know how she managed to literally ignore the shockwave, the explosion and all the shit Yasha sent to her... Nothing seems to even graze her, nothing seems to affect her.
I understand that your character has certain skills & etc, but even though... I don't know what to do anymore...
If I attack, nothing will happen. I don't want to kill your character. I never wanted. But I don't know what to write anymore!! I really don't know!!!!

I'll repeat: If someone manages to get Yasha by surprise, I will either kill or make her gravely wounded. Since she 'actually' has low hp and low def. Yasha is a huge menace due to her high damage output. But other than her speed (with the fly spell and her 'stealth' with the Perfect Unknowable spell) she has no means to defend herself. She is completely inept at melee combat.

@drewccapp@Spanner@GrafRoy Zeppeli@Rune_Alchemist

I'm getting to you guys. I promise.

It's probably going to be a Sunday thing.

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As for Wolf's Run Massacre group... (I like the sound of that), once 13org posts, I'll help close the scene with some cool plot stuff.

@Rune_Alchemist@13org
I'm writing responses tonight for all the groups I'm in. In the interest of time, do you want me to just close the scene myself?
I was waiting to see Yasha's part, but i can keep moving forward if you like.

[@everyone else]
I have some stuff written. I plan to finish later tonight.

@BurningDaisies

Feel free to do it, if you want. No problems here.

@BurningDaisies

Please do... I was going to say that I would have something done by tomorrow, but I really don't know what to write :-/

Sorry...

@13org@Rune_Alchemist@Hammerman

Post is up.

@hivekiller
You get a friend!

@Lugubrious
And you get a new friend!

@IceHeart
And we get a new friend!

New friends for everybody~

Edit; IRL has not been kind the past 48 hours, so if this post seems rushed that's because it was. Apologies in advance~

@TheFake, mind posting in the near future? With the introduction of a new character to the Woodstop area, I'm inclined to kick off my plans.

@Spanner

Heyo, you gonna be posting for Cain soon? Seems Graf maybe has disappeared on us. Suppose I could just go ahead and post with lena again though, if you'd prefer.

@Rune_Alchemist

Sure, I sure. I was planning to wait until this weekend as I've been somehow busy recently but I could as well post early since it has been a considerable time since the last time Graf logged in.

Yeah, @hivekiller seems to have disappeared too...

Which reminds me, I think @Stern Algorithm should be back from his vacation soon.

My computer decided to take a shit on me. Going to have to write from my phone, so forgive me for any autocorrects and typos haha.

Meh...have to get my butt in gear...must not get distracted...Gahhh!!! Needless to say...many distractions, little done at the moment but soon my children, err guildmates.

Yeah, @hivekiller seems to have disappeared too...

Which reminds me, I think @Stern Algorithm should be back from his vacation soon.

Yes, I have returned. Give me a bit to get settled down and I hope to have a post up later today.

@BurningDaisies @IceHeart

What about Nyna? X__X

@BurningDaisies @IceHeart

What about Nyna? X__X

Well I think it is more of a question of, where do you want to take here from here? As Spooky is no longer with us, we'll just have him leave to go off on his lonesome, where do you want your character to go? Will she stick with the original plan to head for E Rantel or head off in a new direction? Once I have that idea we can work things out.

Anyway, I wanted to get something posted soon but, I'm going to be leaving for a special conference this weekend and my brain power is gone from the kids I teach during the week so it will be a few days before I can get posting again.