@HenryJonesJr C-List to A-List baby.

Besides, I think you'll agree the one I asked for will fit right in.

The Spot was immortalized to me by his appearance in Mark Waid's Daredevil.

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I hate to ask this, but after careful review of this application by me and my fellow GMs, we're going to have to request either an updated premise to justify The Insect Queen aspect of this submission or an entirely different concept for Janet.

Problem being, after recent discussions in this very thread about what constitutes the acceptable level of change and non-change to concepts in the game, the addition of The Insect Queen mantle to this version of Janet seems superfluous. And while that wouldn't normally be a big deal, given there's not a huge demand for Janet or The Insect Queen by other players in the game, we're trying not to set a precedent for future concepts to be simple amalgamations.

With Sep's Flash, for instance, he made the character under the mask an entirely different person that would normally not be considered the main Flash. With Andy's Superman and my Batman, we made changes to Clark and Bruce's overall personalities as young and brash heroes to compensate for not changing up the premise around them. Inkarnate and HenryJonesJr took pre-existing 'alternate' versions of heroes and canonized them as the main versions. Lord Wraith killed Thor off and had him reincarnated. These are all extreme changes that made for an overall different flavor with these characters, which is what the game is going for.

By contrast, giving Janet the Bio-Genetic ring really doesn't make the same statement. So we're not entirely sure if this qualifies. We discussed it for awhile and came to the conclusion that if we're going to accept this as-is, we'd have no baseline for what an ultimization is.

Honestly, I'm not sure what you guys want from me. First my Spider-Man was too vanilla and now this.

[a] character (Janet van Dyne) under the mask [who is] an entirely different person that would normally not be considered the main Insect Queen

Changes to Janets's premise (use supernatural item instead of technological/scientific) to compensate for not changing up her overall personality (the inverse of what you said, but should still hold true)

took pre-existing 'alternate' versions of hero - I even had an image of an alternate Wasp that's a insect-human hybrid

If this premise still doesn't work, even though it 'passes' the criteria you gave as examples, then I'm not sure what I can else I can say.

The only other obvious candidates for this mantle are Mary Jane Watson and Lana Lang, but both have issues. MJ is a Spidey character and Henry seems to already have plans for her. Andy's Superman app (at least the last time I checked) did not have Lana Lang in it, but even if he does relinquish her, we would have to divvy up supporting characters or I would have to look for obscure minor characters that no one would care about.

Everytime I read one of @Bounce's post. Everytime.

@Bounce@Lord Wraith@Star LordSo my Shi'ar are not going to quite be like the one in 616. I'm going to be super specific because I want everyone, not just you guys to understand the Shi'ar. I'm open to suggestions, vetos, and kudos ;D

The Shi'ar are a race of technologically advanced aliens. They are not native to the Milky Way galaxy despite them being there for quite sometime. They are at their core a conquering race and have not lost that even over the ages. They are ruled from a planet named Chandilar, the throneworld. Their homeworld is called Aerie but no Shi'ar in the Milky Way has seen it in generations. Among the younger generations the homeworld is largely a myth.

This belief bleeds into their politics. Communication between the two galaxies is few and far between, if it even happens at all despite the stargate system. (I LOVE that these aliens have stagnated. My inner nerd just dies everytime) It also plays into the fact the the ruling council and the current Majestrix rule absolutely with no oversight.

The Shi'ar nation resides in the sector between the Kree and the Skrulls. Because of this they are the main broker for peace between the two. They also hold their sector brutally and efficiently. They allow neither of the warring races to gain foothold in it.

I think in this set up the Shi'ar Empire wouldn't have an overarching influence in the universe around them like the GLC. However due to their conquering mentality they would kind of force themselves into conflicts or situations they might not have any reason to be apart of.

I also see them as largely disliked. The ruling family, the Neramani, have largely been warlike and draconian. D'Ken, the former ruler before Lilandra, the Majestrix, was a cruel individual. Lilandra is trying to change the Shi'ar and how they interact with the outside world. But change is slow and memories are long. So even though they are not currently hostile the races around the Shi'ar don't quite believe this about face.

However due to their conquering mentality they would kind of force themselves into conflicts or situations they might not have any reason to be apart of.

I also see them as largely disliked.

So... the United States of America in space. Got it.

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So... the United States of America in space. Got it.

The parallel is there. The need to expressly point it out was strong... but I resisted.

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The parallel is there. The need to expressly point it out was strong... but I resisted.

You'll find I don't resist all that well.
If I did, I wouldn't still be joining RPs, despite 'retiring' a dozen times over the past five years.

@Blue Demon

I like it.

@HenryJonesJr first you give me someone, now him soneone! You're so kind.

I almost asked you for Spot instead, but I feel who I asked for will fit in nicely for what I have planned...

Once Iris is feeling a bit better.

Was it Speed Demon.

@Bounce loved me. I can die happy now.

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Was it Speed Demon.

I got enough speedster villains to work with thanks

I got enough speedster villains to work with thanks

It's a perfect Flash villain, though.

Now that I'm up to my eyeballs in notes and Thor's convoluted family tree, I should continue my post.

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It's a perfect Flash villain, though.

For a second I seriously thought you were talking about this Speed Demon:

lolno

@ErsatzEmperor Yespls

@ErsatzEmperor Yespls

You got the right idea. If Gowi says no to an idea, it has to happen

Considering that's an amalgam character that wouldn't fundamentally work here, good luck with that.

There has been a precedent set for the multiverse though... So..