Also, can we ship Bruce and Jessica, is that a thing we can do?

I wouldn't count it out moving forward. The good thing about Bruce and romantic entanglements is that, whether he admits it or not, he's always on the lookout for love. And that's definitely a part of the character I want to explore next season.

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I wouldn't count it out moving forward. The good thing about Bruce and romantic entanglements is that, whether he admits it or not, he's always on the lookout for love. And that's definitely a part of the character I want to explore next season.

But Selina is bad! Jessica is good and damaged. They can be broken together.

(Also, ignore Babs being apart of that gif, because ew. No. Not even in an alternate reality where Bruce somehow isn't a surrogate father figure to her. Fuck that noise.)

(Also, ignore Babs being apart of that gif, because ew. No. Not even in an alternate reality where Bruce somehow isn't a surrogate father figure to her. Fuck that noise.)

I was literally just about to complain about this.

There is no world where a Bruce-Barbara romance doesn't represent anything but the rankest of betrayals.

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I was literally just about to complain about this.

There is no world whether a Bruce-Barbara romance doesn't represent anything but the rankest of betrayals.

*Whistles innocently despite the seeds of a Bruce/Babs romance having been sown the last time he played Batman*

You can imagine where that Killing Joke movie sits as far as my rankings of all of the movies.

Hint: So low you can't even see it.

You can imagine where that Killing Joke movie sits as far as my rankings of all of the movies.

Hint: So low you can't even see it.

Yeah, but that was just poorly done.

I think there's definitely a way to do a Bruce/Babs romance and then there are all the ways not to do it.

Also, unrelated to Batman. But holy shit does this look like a marked improvement over that dismal first season. Thank God for showrunner change-ups, eh @Hound55?

I think there's definitely a way to do a Bruce/Babs romance and then there are all the ways not to do it.

We're gonna have to agree to disagree on that one. I'm fine with exploring alternate versions of characters, but there are just some relationship dynamics that are always gonna be set in stone for me. And with Bruce and Barbara, I'll never not be able to see him as her second dad/perhaps even much older brother, depending on the version. So them locking lips just feels incestuous, even ignoring the betrayal aspect to both Jim and Dick.

I'm not limited to thinking that way with just those two, either. Arkham Knight paired Barbara and Tim Drake up as not only lovers but soulmates who married, and that left quite a bad taste in my mouth after growing up with comics and cartoons that depicted Tim as the younger brother that she would often jab or counsel in dire situations.

One of my favorite issues of Batman of all time is actually bookmarked by them acting as siblings, since it involved Batman and Gordon patching things up after the one-two punch of Knightfall and No Man's Land had messed up their friendship.

So, yeah. Fuck that too. Love the game, but Arkham Knight's treatment of that one specific character dynamic can jump right off a cliff.

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I wouldn't count it out moving forward. The good thing about Bruce and romantic entanglements is that, whether he admits it or not, he's always on the lookout for love. And that's definitely a part of the character I want to explore next season.

Why is Babs older than Harley?

Why is Babs older than Harley?

I have no clue. Though it's always been kind of a thing that Harleen became a doctor at Arkham at a young age and right out of college, so... maybe? Eh, even that's a stretch. I feel like those ages should be reversed, if anything. If not marking Babs' age down to a 21-22 at peak Batgirl.

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I have no clue. Though it's always been kind of a thing that Harleen became a doctor at Arkham at a young age and right out of college, so... maybe? Eh, even that's a stretch. I feel like those ages should be reversed, if anything. If not marking Babs' age down to a 21-22 at peak Batgirl.

I mean, when I was playing Harley as Batgirl in two past games, I had Babs in her friend group in order to eventually set up future Bat dynamics. But, even with this being a world in which Harley was over a decade younger than Bruce and his ward, I still had Babs being the youngest out of her friend group.

I don't know, the whole Barbara romance thing aside, that gif is weird.

And then Johnny heard Spider-Woman's words in his head. Not only did she know Peter Parker – she had called him hers. Johnny released Spider-Woman from the hug and then placed his hands on her shoulders. He squinted at her for a few seconds as he began to put the theory in his head together piece by piece. Suddenly a knowing smile appeared on his face.

Mary-Jane Watson was Spider-Woman.

For some reason I just immediately burst out laughing at this.

I know that it's a natural conclusion for Johnny to make, given his world's history. But for some reason that just came across as the most airheaded Johnny Storm thing that I've ever read.

Kudos, MM.

For some reason I just immediately burst out laughing at this.

I know that it's a natural conclusion for Johnny to make, given his world's history. But for some reason that just came across as the most airheaded Johnny Storm thing that I've ever read.

Kudos, MM.

Thanks, MB.

I thought it was important amid all the PTSD-Johnny to remind people that he's still fundamentally a bit of a goofball – even when he's trying his hardest to be smart. And Henry was gracious enough to allow Johnny to go through the world thinking Gwen was Mary Jane, of course.

I can't wait for the FF to make a stop over to Gotham.

"Bruce! Thank god you're alive in this world! Where's Robin?"

"..."

"Who the hell is Robin?"

I can't wait for the FF to make a stop over to Gotham.

"Bruce! Thank god you're alive in this world! Where's Robin?"

"..."

"Who the hell is Robin?"

Would be more humorous if they thought Bats was Dick under the cowl.

Would be more humorous if they thought Bats was Dick under the cowl.

"Oh, wait. Has Robin been killed by The Joker at this point? Is Bruce stuck in time, and is Damian about to take up the mantle?"

"I... understand literally nothing that you're talking about. I'm not even sure half of those are really words."

"Nonsense! Tell me that you and Clark have at least formed the Justice League, at this point?"

"...Alfred. Call Arkham."

I'm still gonna need to have Clark get all salty to Reed about the Silver Surfer.

"Hey, great call with that 'Galactus' stuff. Nearly having my face melted off really opened up my pores. Maybe next you wanna tell me that Toyman is actually king of the mole-people or something?"

I'm still gonna need to have Clark get all salty to Reed about the Silver Surfer.

"Hey, great call with that 'Galactus' stuff. Nearly having my face melted off really opened up my pores. Maybe next you wanna tell me that Toyman is actually king of the mole-people or something?"

Heh, yeah, Reed and Clark should probably have a chat about that at some point.

I freakin LOVE Johnny’s “Ha you’re MJ!” thought. Gwen shall get a kick out of it too. I definitely want that to payoff somewhere down the line