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@Eviledd1984@supertinyking once you have both replied i'll move us into the Raditz situation.

@Weird Tales Just for awareness Taeto will be having some reinforcements soon in the form of Sam, Colda, Gor Dae and Kojiro.
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@Eviledd1984@supertinyking once you have both replied i'll move us into the Raditz situation.

@Weird Tales Just for awareness Taeto will be having some reinforcements soon in the form of Sam, Colda, Gor Dae and Kojiro.


that's cool. I posted this clip for a reason lol
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You still accepting new applicants?
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You still accepting new applicants?


Sure
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Gor is a manipulative jerk, but he can be a supportive manipulative jerk when he thinks it'll be helpful.
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2 quick questions about character creation:

1) It says no transformations by anyone, does this mean that all Saiyan characters have to be tailless so they can't transform into the Great Aape?
2) Being that my characters that i have in mind are very much loyal to the Saiyan Empire, would my characters be allowed to show up on earth when Vegeta arrives and fight on his side? Considering that the Earth has a lot of protectors, he may just need the back-up on this one.
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Everyone always forgets the Saibamen... :3
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Everyone always forgets the Saibamen... :3


Because they show up once and aren't that threatening. Memes about then killing Yamcha aside, the only threat is the kamikaze move they pull.
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2 quick questions about character creation:

1) It says no transformations by anyone, does this mean that all Saiyan characters have to be tailless so they can't transform into the Great Aape?
2) Being that my characters that i have in mind are very much loyal to the Saiyan Empire, would my characters be allowed to show up on earth when Vegeta arrives and fight on his side? Considering that the Earth has a lot of protectors, he may just need the back-up on this one.


Preferably I would like to see some more earth based characters right now. As for tail transformations I will say that the moon has already been blown up
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Preferably I would like to see some more earth based characters right now. As for tail transformations I will say that the moon has already been blown up


But... then how did Yang transform and accidentally kill his mom? Unless you're saying the Moon was destroyed sometime after that?
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Because they show up once and aren't that threatening. Memes about then killing Yamcha aside, the only threat is the kamikaze move they pull.


So then we just make them a bit stronger than they are in canon? I mean we did that Raditz so... why not? Plus we could take a page from the video games and incorporate the different colors to distinguish which ones are stronger than others. We have the options, so why not use them?
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But... then how did Yang transform and accidentally kill his mom? Unless you're saying the Moon was destroyed sometime after that?


For history sake we can say it got destroyed afterwards
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Hope you don't mind me joining in with a pair of characters.




I would prefer you having just one
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@Weird Tales That is fair... Gonna have to give me a bit to decide which one, then, because they are pretty tight together. Would i be permitted to use one as a non-combative NPC?
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Right, because Saiyans were well known for having an Earthling woman they worshipped like a deity and learned all their martial arts from despite being several times more powerful than her. Also she invented the Galick Gun instead of Vegeta... Because.

I know skill a thing but it doesn't just completely invalidate power levels, especially when the difference is that huge. Otherwise Goku should have beaten Frieza no problem because he trained all his life while Frieza at that point never trained a day of his life.

But whatever, I'm not the one in charge here.
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@Double The history of the Kamehameha is well documented, the history of the Galik Gun is not. Hell, as far as i remember, he's only actually used it twice. After looking it up, i was incorrect, over the course of Z, he used the move a grand total of 3 times (Fun fact, this means that, in Super, Future Trunks used the move more than his father did in Z, using it 4 times) His move of choice was always Final Flash or Final Burst Cannon. So, don't treat the move as if it has some epicly important implications. It is stated during the first fight between Goku and Vegeta that the move is very similar to Kamehameha, so it would make sense that the Galick Gun was invented by someone familiar with the Kamehameha.

Also, i'm essentially answering the question of "What if the saiyans had kidnapped Roshi and made him train them in his form of combat?" There's no goddess worship, more like the respect that everyone gives to Roshi. Hell, even after Krillen far surpassed him in Z, he chose to train with Roshi when getting ready for the Androids.
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@mattmanganon Maybe the Galick Gun isn't as important but it's still an absurd pill to swallow. Saiyans have absolutely zero respect for anyone that isn't one of them. That goes double for Vegeta in particular. And you failed to answer my second point regarding skill over power levels. If skill really does trump battle power, then riddle me this, Batman: Where was Zhao when Planet Vegeta was blown up? Why didn't she just march on up to Frieza and whoop his ass because of all her skill and training somehow being more effective than Frieza's power level?
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@Double Look, i respect our differing opinions on the matter, but i would rather not get into an argument with you in chat, so i will simply post my usual rebuttal to arguments along these lines:

RP's like this are less of a game and more of a group story-telling activity where we work together to try and amuse ourselves and each other with characters encountering situations as set out by the GM. Plenty of people argue over what is and is not an "Overpowered character" when the answer is simple. In freeform RP's, there is no such thing as an overpowered character, just someone who wants to play an overpowered character. OP characters are created when someone decides to start ignoring the rules of narrative, one of the key rules being "If character X needs to lose a fight to character Y, then they will do so, regardless of how much stronger character X is." E.G. If Broly needs to lose a fight to Krillen in order to facilitate the narrative, then Broly's going to lose.
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@mattmanganon I'm sorry to say that I don't consider that to be a valid argument. When one character is clearly going to be overpowered for no other reason than "plot" then other players are prone to losing their motivation to continue playing. After all, what's the point in trying if you already know a specific character is just going to magically be stronger for no justifiable reason whatsoever? There's adhering to a narrative, and then there's just asking me to accept something that is flat out impossible.
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