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pdf version of the same article for another publication: sbs.utexas.edu/levin/bio213/articles/…

We found that the earth's surface could be divided into three vitamin D zones: one comprising the tropics, one the subtropics and temperate regions, and the last the circumpolar regions north and south of about 45 degrees latitude. In the first, the dosage of UVB throughout the year is high enough that humans have ample opportunity to synthesize vitamin D all year. In the second, at least one month during the year has insufficient UVB radiation, and in the third area not enough UVB arrives on average during the entire year to prompt vitamin D synthesis. This distribution could explain why indigenous peoples in the tropics generally have dark skin, whereas people in the subtropics and temperate regions are lighter-skinned but have the ability to tan, and those who live in regions near the poles tend to be very light skinned and burn easily.

One of the most interesting aspects of this investigation was the examination of groups that did not precisely fit the predicted skin-color pattern. An example is the Inuit people of Alaska and northern Canada. The Inuit exhibit skin color that is somewhat darker than would be predicted given the UV levels at their latitude. This is probably caused by two factors. The first is that they are relatively recent inhabitants of these climes, having migrated to North America only roughly 5,000 years ago. The second is that the traditional diet of the Inuit is extremely high in foods containing vitamin D, especially fish and marine mammals. This vitamin D-rich diet offsets the problem that they would otherwise have with vitamin D synthesis in their skin at northern latitudes and permits them to remain more darkly pigmented.
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Fair enough. My bad.
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Now, please drop the science discussion, I have to read papers often enough day to day without doing it when I'm looking at fantasy.


Look, sooner or later we were gonna run out of excuses and we were gonna start coming to the real reason you're so afraid of letting brown people into a setting with gold and purple eye, furry dog people, and necromancer lolis. I hope it's not as unflattering as it's starting to look from out here. :/
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@Myrna Minkoff Please drop the argument. Even your own quote indicates a two-factor source: beginning with dark skin and diet to maintain it. The skin tone of dark elves is neither up for debate nor is this science remotely relevant.
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@Myrna Minkoff Alright, now you're shitposting
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Yup, banned from the thread. Get out.

To quote the forum rules:
GMs and Co-GM RP thread bans are up to them. Staff does not police RP thread bans.


Also, I will note that this sort of stupidity is why I generally ask people to leave pretty quickly when they start treating every setting point as up for debate. The policy here is: ask, then get answers; if there are undefined things then give suggestions. Not ask, suggest, argue when rebuffed.
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@Myrna Minkoff My brown skinned character from another thread in the same setting was perfectly fine.

The GMs world isn't just law, it is the word of god. Accept it or get out. You're resorting to personal attacks because you can't accept that you might be wrong about something in an established setting.
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That's fine. In no uncertain terms you have told me that I'm not allowed the privilege of being able to roleplay a character who looks like me in your setting. You have articulated just how unwelcome all of us are, not just me as an individual, and I would not have been able to abide by that for very long anyway.

@Raineh Daze And just so you know, I've sat at gaming tables next to literal rapists who have acted less toxic than you. At least they've managed to let a RP get started, and even finish a session or two before they forced their characters on mine, or forced themselves on another girl at the table, or made disgusting comments that made everyone with actual scruples uncomfortable. I'm not kidding.

For the sake of the people in your life I hope you only act like this on the internet, for faceless strangers who will never matter to you. For the sake of those faceless strangers, I hope you seriously reflect on your behavior and how disgustingly you have treated me, and judging from your post history, plenty of others who have come into Vita's games with nothing but good intentions and a love for a hobby. You narcissists with Little Emperor Syndrome never do, but I will go on hoping nonetheless.

Love you guys. Peace.
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what the hell
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gms confirmed gamers
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@Caasicam It's just a troll, forget about it.
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aye aye cap'n

i'll be hanging around for whenever the IC gets rolling

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0 to a 100 baby, real quick.

So to move on, is my ex-Guard Captain character good or what?
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Moving on, I'd like to make it abundantly clear that the issue here absolutely was one explicitly based in setting continuity. Dark Elves live underground in a Scandinavia-based region of the setting, therefore they are pale.

I absolutely do not want the fear tactics on display here to discourage anyone. If you want to sign up with a dark-skinned character, feel free to. There's plenty of regions that someone with dark skin could have come from, such as the more Middle Eastern-inspired regions to the east. @TheFake's character from a former iteration of another RP in this setting originated from there. Because he asked me about them. Asking me will get you a lot. I want people to ask me about the setting. Dark Elves just aren't dark-skinned. Honestly it kind of came off to me as racist to make "dark elves" have dark skin anyway, it's kind of always bothered me a little.

If you want to make a dark-skinned elf, wood elves are known to develop tans from being the outdoorsy type. Not all of them, but some of them. There's probably naturally dark-skinned elves on another continent or something, but I haven't fleshed that out yet so it went unmentioned.

Part of this is I simply don't know the cultures I'd be using as a basis as well.

Please don't let fear tactics stop you from using your idea. Just ask me about it first before you write up a full bio.

I'll be getting to some backlogged characters soon. Sorry for the delay.
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Knew Barukstaed was the Scandinavia @Krayzikk
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Honestly it kind of came off to me as racist to make "dark elves" have dark skin anyway, it's kind of always bothered me a little.


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@PaulHaynek I think it would be easier if you just had her use her actual rank; it doesn't add anything to try and be masquerading as a lower rank... honestly it's more problematic, because the whole point of having everyone clustered around rank 4-6 is that they're going to be doing the same jobs.

And consistently faking being an incompetent warrior is pretty difficult.
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Knew Barukstaed was the Scandinavia @Krayzikk


There's not-vikings there too! Which is hopefully what my character will be once I get some more stuff sorted out with Vita but we'll see how that turns out.
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all of sigi's posts are gonna have an accent for me now

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@Myrna Minkoff
you're in the club now lmao
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