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So you're basically telling the GM she's wrong for expecting you to describe a character's personality with more depth than the average Twitter post?You know what? I'm out. Sorry.


I was never once in a conversation with the GM for the past few posts... It was you who kept it up. I respected what she wanted, and I also respect your views. You have all the right in the world to disagree with what I like, but you don't have the right to force me to your own ideals. I respect your ideals, but I disagree with it, and I'm not gonna force you to change it... So I ask that you don't force me to change mine.

And going back to the saying... "There are many dogs BETTER than my little Shih Tzu... But I LIKE my Shih Tzu. I won't trade her off for better dog".
It's not about what's BETTER, It's about what people LIKE... And I respected what the GM LIKES. Is it not difficult to respect what I LIKE?

Besides, It is still a fact that what most people fill a Personality section up are either habits or other traits. It is the behavior of the character when in open interaction with another. Descriptive words like Shy, Chatty, Friendly, Cheerful, Sociable, Introvert... That's personality. Descriptive words like Brave, Strong willed, Honorable, Merciful, Stubborn... Are words that describe WHAT KIND of a person the character is, It describes their reaction given a situation instead of an interaction with another character.

And then there's those who fill it up with things that pertain as to what the character likes. That's entirely different altogether. Those are Quirks and Idiosyncrasies. They help build a picture of the character, but they are in no way related to a character's personality.

For example. If I put "Kaguya loves to engage in mortal duels with Mokou that always ends up with either or both of them getting killed"... That would make someone think "Oh she likes to fight and is probably very aggressive and intimidating in a conversation"... Which is the complete opposite of what she is.
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Is the IC/OOC thread going to be opened anytime soon? I would like to see this underway soon, although I don't mind waiting for further preparations if needed.

BTW Vita, did my OCs get accepted? You said you were gonna check out my edits a while ago.
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Not a GM, obviously, but I assume the "Every complete bio is accepted" bit might've included them. Since the alternative would be that she was saying that to a grand total of 1 bio.
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And I don't know if my bio is complete or not.
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Your definition of personality is arbitrarily narrow and doesn't map to what personality is.

the combination of characteristics or qualities that form an individual's distinctive character.


It is not 'the narrow subset of descriptive words mapping exactly to character-character interactions'.
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... Okay, um...

benit, I want a few more characters ideally before setting up the OOC. Also, your characters are accepted.

ACHTUNG, personality includes traits of the character, and therefore it should not be too hard to add a couple more sentences onto a personality field. I don't like personality fields that are that short because it usually indicates that someone writes posts that short and even though I don't mind shorter posts that's too short.

DBL, don't leave? This is, um, kind of a ridiculous thing to leave over.
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Right on. I'll keep lurking in the background until it's time then. :3
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... Okay, um...benit, I want a few more characters ideally before setting up the OOC. Also, your characters are accepted.ACHTUNG, personality includes traits of the character, and therefore it should not be too hard to add a couple more sentences onto a personality field. I don't like personality fields that are that short because it usually indicates that someone writes posts that short and even though I don't mind shorter posts that's too short.DBL, don't leave? This is, um, kind of a ridiculous thing to leave over.


It isn't hard to make it longer... Which is why I did make it longer. The problem is... well I'll let a picture speak for it.



There is a difference between Personality and Character... And the vast majority of what people put on "Personality" sections of character sheets are in fact the other.

I could have sworn that having enough knowledge of the English language to Roleplay properly would also include something as basic as knowing the difference between the two, but time and time again that's proven wrong.
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I... am not sure what exactly you're trying to say, ACHTUNG... Are you saying that Personality is just a text field and we don't know how our characters really act unless we see them in action in the RPG?
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ACHTUNG said
It isn't hard to make it longer... Which is why I did make it longer. The problem is... well I'll let a picture speak for it.There is a difference between Personality and Character... And the vast majority of what people put on "Personality" sections of character sheets are in fact the other.I could have sworn that having enough knowledge of the English language to Roleplay properly would also include something as basic as knowing the difference between the two, but time and time again that's proven wrong.


I think you need to get a dictionary.

No, really.

Personality has to do with individual differences among people in behavior patterns, cognition and emotion.


It is not, in any sense of the word, how you act just when interacting with people. Your definition is arbitrary bullshit. :/
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Raineh Daze said
I think you need to get a dictionary.


I can provide that.
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Uh, wow, um... I'm barely even sure how to respond to that.

For one thing, the 'difference' between the words is completely arbitrary(and in character's case basically made up). Personality, as given its definition in basically every reliable source, encompasses all of those traits. This includes numerous sources from psychological institutes in addition to simply sources focusing on the meaning of the word. "Character", on the other hand, is often used to describe if someone is likely to "do the right thing". It can even be used to describe someone's personality. You seem to be using personality to refer to someone's attitude, honestly.

It wouldn't be so bad if that was the only problem here, but you also seem to be insulting nearly everyone have ever RPed with including several close friends and that's really kind of upsetting to see.
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I could have sworn that having enough knowledge of the English language to Roleplay properly would also include something as basic as knowing the difference between the two, but time and time again that's proven wrong.


Achievement Unlocked: Pissed everyone off in this forum.

I didn't really care how this was panning out but after reading that, I'm not staying in this RP nor will I RP with you in the future if you intend to continue this needless debate because this whole thing is proving how petty and closed-minded you are. Either stop right now and we'll go on our merry way, go take this discussion in a liveChat, or leave if you don't like how Vita is running this. I sure as hell am not staying if you're going to nitpick every bloody thing we do here, and I bet Vita wouldn't want to lose anyone else over this. Grammar Nazis are not fun to be around.
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I have my sources and everyone else have theirs and I respect that.

Won't ask people to change their views according to mine, just laying it out there.

The point still stands, that Character and Personality is different, and People still tend to put a "character trait" in the personality section of character sheets. I've done it myself, and so did the majority of people, not just here. It's quite widespread.

Bravery, honesty, loyalty, respect, courage. They are all Characteristic traits. The best thing to come out of the difference is... well because there is a difference. You can have a proper goody two shoes character with all the right things checked, Brave, Honest, Courageous, ect... and yet act like a complete douche. And that last bit is the personality. It's what people perceive you to be.

For example, Raineh's sheet with Mokou.
Mokou's apathy, and general cold and quiet demeanor to everyone other than Kaguya and perhaps Keine is her Personality. However, her reactions to anything that involves Kaguya that is mostly hidden from anyone else, that tsundere bit... now that's Character.

Now this view of mine maybe because of how the two were defined in all them characterization lessons my English professor on that British school drilled one me... I don't know, maybe the Brits have a different view on the matter than the rest of the world (I'm not British)

Still. My views, Take it as you may.

Now looking back... I cocked up on that one. I have managed to derail everything from the actual root... It's that I used fourteen words to describe Kaguya's demeanor. My defense to that... well If you can do something with less... why bother with more? And I solved the problem like ten hours ago, I'm just prolonging the discussion about something that's not really the cause of the original problem... because, I found it enjoyable. I'm sorry if everyone else didn't, I'm being a massive asshat and being incredibly selfish. At least I'm being honest... If bluntly so.

And yes that means I'm sorry and now can we move on? (Uhuh I was the reason we were stuck in the first place but now that I've finished being a douchebag we could go on again)
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Well hi folks, I think this is the first time to join an RP after a long time since I left RPing because of work and all so I do hope that I can work together with all of you guys.

Name: Tsukasa Kadoya

Age: 27 (I take a blind guess since the Wiki didn't specified his age)

Gender: Male

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Canon, AU, or OC?: Canon

Universe of Origin: Kamen Rider

Personality: Tsukasa Kadoya is a hypocritical and self-righteous young man who does not know much about his past. He has a strong desire to "catch the world" using his photos, but they never develop well. He sees this as a sign that he is not of this world, unaware of it being a prelude of it being supplanted by the worlds of the other nine Kamen Riders. However as Decade, he is seen as an agent of destruction, usually being called "the devil", a rumor spread by Narutaki, who believes Tsukasa does not belong in any world.

It is also revealed that those who appear in his badly developed photographs die or foreshadow events. As Tsukasa travels between dimensions, his clothing changes to suit the Rider's World, including some accouterments similar in color to his camera and Decade. He also exhibits some prior knowledge or a talent necessary to his quest in the Rider's Worlds he enters. Some examples are his knowledge of the Gurongi language in Kuuga's World and his enrollment as a student in Faiz's World. He has also mentioned before that he is capable of doing anything except for taking photos.

Before a climatic battle begins, Tsukasa answers a major villain's demand for his identity by saying that he is "Just a passing by Kamen Rider, remember that!".

Tsukasa uses a "Decade Pink" Blackbird, fly 135 Twin Lens Reflex Camera.

Abilities/Weapons: Tsukasa's primarily uses the Decadriver which enables him to assume his form as Kamen Rider Decade in which all of his abilities uses the Rider Cards that allows him to assume any Heisei Era Riders except for the Riders after Decade in turn can also allows Decade to perform all of the Rider's Finishing Move or his own Finishing move via the use of AttackRide and FinalAttackRide Cards. He also have the Ride Booker in which all of his Cards are kept inside it and as his primary weapon that can change into either a sword or gun in place of the Heisei Rider's signature weapon. Most of his Rider Powers are stated here. His primary means of transportation is the Machine Decader which the motorcycle itself have its own ability like Decade himself as the Decader can assume the form of the respective Rider's motorcycle. It exhibits this ability when Decade (as Faiz) transforms the Decader into the Auto Vajin.

Backstory: Tsukasa Kadoya is a young man who do not remember his past before becoming a Kamen Rider. He currently made a living as a Photographer of the Hikari Photo Studio which he acquainted with the owner of the said studio by the name of Natsumi Hikari and Eijiro Hikari. After a sudden attack by various Kaijin's on Natsumi Hikari's World, Tsukasa acquired the Decadriver and defeats the Kaijins but then he confronted Wataru Kurenai who are Kamen Rider named Kiva that explains Tsukasa are now responsible to defeat the other nine Alternate Kamen Riders to save his own world. During his time in visiting the Alternate Rider World, Tsukasa is convinced that he didn't not need to defeat the Kamen Riders to save his world instead as he begins to help the Riders with their own problem. Later Onodera Yusuke joins Tsukasa and the Hikari's travelling the Rider World and slowly, Tsukasa is able to remember his past albeit it was darker since he is once the leader of the Kamen Rider's oldest enemies, the Dai-Shocker Organization. Instead of assuming back the leadership of the Dai-Shocker, he vowed that he will defeat all of the Dai-Shocker and thus he began fighting the Shocker Organization in many Worlds he's traveling. He faced many hardships and tribulation like he is finally forced to fight the other Riders in the Rider War World and defeat all of them but in the end, he do it to sacrifice himself by letting Natsumi Hikari, now Kamen Rider Kivala to defeat him, thus restoring the Rider World to normal but with the effort of Natsumi and the other memories of the Alternate World Riders, he is revived back to life. In the end, he still continues his adventures through the Rider Worlds as he once stated that "All of the Rider Stories is also his own stories", indicating that if there still a Rider, his story and journey continues.

Faction: Factionless (unless the circumstances forces him to choose sides)
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Oh Hi Fuji! Glad you could make it... And perfectly timed so you get to miss all the derpage I've caused.
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Oh Hi Fuji! Glad you could make it... And perfectly timed so you get to miss all the derpage I've caused.


Haha I can see that Ach
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I don't know, maybe the Brits have a different view on the matter than the rest of the world (I'm not British)


I am British and we don't think that.
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I'm just prolonging the discussion about something that's not really the cause of the original problem... because, I found it enjoyable. I'm sorry if everyone else didn't, I'm being a massive asshat and being incredibly selfish. At least I'm being honest... If bluntly so.

And yes that means I'm sorry and now can we move on? (Uhuh I was the reason we were stuck in the first place but now that I've finished being a douchebag we could go on again)


As long as you understand the effect that had on the rest of us, I'm cool with it. Words are much more powerful than you think, and you best be careful how you portray yourself in the future.
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As long as you understand the effect that had on the rest of us, I'm cool with it. Words are much more powerful than you think, and you best be careful how you portray yourself in the future.


I perfectly understand how it affected people because I was the one who caused it. And I know about the power of Words... look what I did with it... And for the last bit, I'd let people be the judge of how they take my actions, Their views on me are their own, I have no right and therefore wont force them to change that.
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