[OOC] Fate/Darkened Moon

[Cu Chulainn]

If it’s who I think it is, I might go for an Assassin and app an OC Hassan.

[ManyThings]

It'll probably be more fun with the stronger Saber. Though I think it's good to note that prediction skills aren't everything, like even though Lancelot and Hector lack future sight they're still expert warriors.

[vancexentan]

Well for obvious reasons I can't say who it is but you really should iron out who you want as servant Cu.

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@vancexentan

I'm interested in joining, but what spots are currently open? Had my thoughts on a OC Hassan with Meditative Serenity but I'll take whatever is open~ I like exercising my creative juices

[Cu Chulainn]

@Italicized
Was going to have a Hassan but you’ll probably fair better. As far as I know, Assassin is open, so feel free to grab that. I’ll go with an Archer most likely, myself.

[vancexentan]

@Italicizedassassin berserker remain I believe unless I'm mistaken I'm not sure about serenity unless we need her poison she may just kill everyone when summoned

[Italicized]

I'm going to toss this here for you to check on @vancexentan~ Sorry if its a bit too out there but a good idea for a demi-servant though in another time and place

:D Just gonna go hide over here for a lil bit

Servant Character Sheet

Class:

Assassin

Nicknames:

"Old Man of the Mountain"

"Hassan of Clairty"

Alignment:

Lawful Evil

Servant of:

Weapon(s):

Trained and most deadly with their hands

Wish:

... A Wish?

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Class Skills:

Presence Concealment (A+)

The ability to hide one's presence as a Servant which at this rank, is suitable for spying. With his senses honed to an extreme level stacked along with his training, he is capable of understanding even more subtle nuances on hiding his presence that has allowed him to drift on the edges of perception. It allows for Assassin to become near impossible to be detected, even against a Servant's perception. However, efficiency will decrease once preparations to attack are taken.

Personal Skills:

Eye of Mind - True (C)

A weapon wielded by none other than a mortal, gained through tenacious training. So long there is a chance of a comeback, this ability greatly improves the chances of winning. With his natural instincts are augmented with the training that he has undergone has allowed his senses and calculations to reach this level

Breathing and Walking (C)

While not in the realm of those who naturally possess the ability to replicate potent thaumaturgy, it still has allowed him access for simplistic magecraft that has basic purpose such as Reinforcement with the practice of a lifetime he has invested. By centering himself and his focus, it can result in a rank up to both ( Strength ) and ( Endurance ) as one of the techniques that he has learned. Bringing about a natural and controlled way of breathing and movement from Assassin that produces nothing wasted.

With neither any enmity or bloodlust being radiated from him until battle begins, with his training as a martial artist allows him to collect himself. When discovered and confrontation is inevitable, he simply enters with a clear murderous intent that shows his determination.

Art of the Mind - The Snake's Entanglement N/A)

One of the unique pieces about him as 'Old Man of the Mountain' is the stories that surrounds himself. As the founder of the fighting style known as "Snake" recorded in manuscripts found by No Name Assassin and function designated for Souichiro Kuzuki, allows for the quick take down of an individual. Designed for him to forgo having a weapon in exchange for him having an easier chance at getting close to his target with the element of surprise. The fighting style aims for the efficiency in taking down a target with fatal if not debilitating attacks, focusing on vital weak points like the forehead, throat, heart and spine, with each strike launched with extreme precision and quick speed.

Focused on its odd and unique style makes it difficult for opponents to comprehend, its takes advantage of Assassin's strength which is his unique understanding of the senses that people have. Having an intrinsic quality of (Knowledge of Respect and Harmony) at (C Rank) inherent to Assassin's mastery of the style that allows it to defy the senses of his opponents. It prevents the opponents from fully being able to comprehend and see through Assassin's fighting style during encounters, combined with its orthodox nature makes it extremely effective.

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Strength: (筋力, Kinryoku?):

C

Endurance: (耐久, Taikyū?):

C

Agility: (敏捷, Binshō?):

A

Magical Power: (魔力, Maryoku?):

B

Luck: (幸運, Kōun?):

E

Noble Phantasm: (宝具, Hōgu?):

D+

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Noble Phantasms

Name:
Zabaniya: Meditative Sensitivity

Rank:
D+

Type:
Anti-Unit

Range:
Self

Description:
Each one of the nineteen had to earn their title by proving their piety through obtaining a divine miracle bearing the name of Shayṭān that met the criteria of that which could swiftly and reliably bring death to its target. All of them, with the exception of The Hundred-Faced Hassan who had a qualifying in-born ability, modified their bodies to achieve their own miracles, earning them their titles.

The acquisition of such a skill was never on his mind, for calling himself as a contender for the title of "Old Man of the Mountain" would had just been a funny joke to him back in the day. In Assassin's case, rather than just adding or subtracting from their own bodies, they were born with a particular trait. Not particularly useful in its natural and raw state, Assassin was able to develop it into a fine and beautiful weapon in the duration of his life time.

Immensely killed in martial arts that separated him from the weaponry of his other peers, for was it wrong for himself to continuously improve for the good of the group? He trained himself daily with his peers, doing what was needed of him for each day in and out, rinsing and repeating. During one of his session of intense training, he came upon the ideal form of breathing and walking techniques for his martial arts that help improved himself, a solid foundation to build up further upon. While not in the realm of those who naturally possess the ability to replicate potent thaumaturgy, his training had affected him in the perfect way, bringing about a natural and controlled way of breathing and steps that produce no wasted movement. This Noble Phantasm can be activated both when Assassin is stationary and in motion, receiving its plus modifier when he is in a state of concentrated focus such as meditation.

These techniques helped him hone his senses to extreme levels, placing him in the right state of mind. His natural instincts that he was born with were only further honed with the training that he placed himself through, sharpening its edge through experience and use. It allows him both to understand the senses that he has on a more intimate level along with how to dance around the senses of others as well.

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True Name:

Hassan-i-Sabbah

[vancexentan]

Presence concealment too high. King Hassan has normal A Rank. You're saying this Hassan has a better hiding skill than the OG. Further more PC drops much more drastically when activated than just a simple + or two down.

Eye of Mind False is excessive. Eye of the Mind (False) B is Heracle's rank. Emiya Archer's rank of Mind's eye true is B. You have a better combative mind then a berserking demi-god, and a counter force agent?

Art of the mind is somewhat lore breaking but it isn't something I would count against it entirely.

I would honestly just pick a different canon assassin, or go back to the drawing board. Maybe its just that his initial skills are leaving a bad taste in my mouth.

Okita Souji (in assassin form), or a debuffed Shuten-Douji (Bone Collector for example is a bit vague) would be my pick out of canon servants but others like Mitsuhide Akechi, or Spring Heeled Jack seem like good servants.

[Italicized]

@vancexentan
Hahaha, sorry bout all of that~

Assassin Character Sheet Response

Presence concealment too high. King Hassan has normal A Rank. You're saying this Hassan has a better hiding skill than the OG. Further more PC drops much more drastically when activated than just a simple + or two down.

I don't mind knocking the Presence Concealment down to what the rest of the regular Hassans have which is A+ but with Breathing and Walking, I figured the skill would be able to mitigate the rank drop with the ability to more thoroughly suppress one's presence in that way. Looking at Sasaki Kojiro who has an inherent ability similar to that, I borrowed it and placed it with Breathing and Walking as my intent

Eye of Mind False is excessive. Eye of the Mind (False) B is Heracle's rank. Emiya Archer's rank of Mind's eye true is B. You have a better combative mind then a berserking demi-god, and a counter force agent?

Saying it like that, yeah in terms of ranking Assassin would be definitely inferior to both servants in terms of skill but I'd figure that the Noble Phantasm he would have would augment this ability to match their level. So, would you consider ( B Rank ) as acceptable, provided that the Noble Phantasm of his is active for full effectiveness or gets tossed to a rank down?

Art of the mind is somewhat lore breaking but it isn't something I would count against it entirely.

You don't have to answer this one but which part (or is it all of it) that is lore breaking/bending? I'd like to know so I don't mess it up in the future since I'm just a Type-Moon normie :P

@vancexentan

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I would honestly just pick a different canon assassin, or go back to the drawing board. Maybe its just that his initial skills are leaving a bad taste in my mouth.

Of course, that is to be expected when a Servant gets over-proportionally blown up in power (face palming in some regards and sometimes just embarrassing)! Its just that for making Original Servants, I have to make some assumptions that simply goes overboard sometimes with me so apologies again for the eye sore.

Okita Souji (in assassin form), or a debuffed Shuten-Douji (Bone Collector for example is a bit vague) would be my pick out of canon servants but others like Mitsuhide Akechi, or Spring Heeled Jack seem like good servants.

Okita Souji I wouldn't mind doing in Assassin form but would have nowhere to start (so I'd have to do some research) and Shuten-Douji I wouldn't mind doing as a Berserker. But hopefully the above resolutions aren't too difficult to come to a compromise, if it is the case then I'll pull these two that are on the back burner~

vancexentan

[vancexentan]

All Hassans, at least from what I heard, have to completely give up on their identity to become the mythical old man of the mountain. Some one even having a partial identity is slightly lore breaking.

Mind's Eye is a ability the inherently purposes that the applicant in question already has clarity, and prudential awareness of their surroundings to assess what is happening around them, and react accordingly. Further calming of the mind would prove redundant to the skill at hand. It's like taking a already sharp sword, and sharpening it further just to say its that sharp.

Kojiro Sasaki's presence concealment is E Rank, or roughly around there. He has little to no real hiding ability on par with Hassan taking something like that from Kojiro and putting it on an assassin who already exceeds at stealth makes it more power than it was intended on that specific character.

Okita's skills would probably drop in rank around strength but have a higher speed. She'd be around roughly C presence concealment as she is a member of the famous japanese shinsengumi (spelling not included). She would fair well in high speed attacks not too different from Saber but unlike Saber would probably focus more on quick strikes then hiding as Saber is the best class as it is. Saber Okita is more of a dodge tank since her health is trash but is fast. Assassin Okita would probably have something closer linked to the traditional shinsengumi.

Slight edit: Said clarity of mind twice.

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@vancexentan
Hmmm, everything sounds reasonable...

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I'll just keep Assassin without an identity then and have him start as a blank slate as is tradition for them. The skill itself will be inherent to him but I'll just attribute it to his name as one of the Hassan rather than who he was before.

Would Mind Eye - True at ( C Rank ) be fine then? Not at a rank that would be an affront to the raw talent of Heracles or full experience of Emiya, but suitable for an assassin who has the instincts developed from an experience of a lifetime. Nothing would come from the Noble Phantasm but work into the martial arts as background information.

Presence Concealment at A+ Rank would drop down to what rank then after the preparations to attack are made (so I have a reference)?

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Besides that, is there anything else that needs to be addressed from the Character Sheet?

(Sorry if I decide to switch to Okita Soki last second, very tempting...)

[vancexentan]

Mind's Eye true would be acceptable at C rank. It would entail that he would be able to more easily dodge but not counter as easily as Emiya did as Cu.

I'll be willing to let presence concealment stay at A. When combat initiates it would probably drop to C, or D the wiki doesn't give any hard facts but PC is not suppose to cover for servants who engage in combat it is meant to give cover to those who are stalking.

If you want to switch to Okita that is fine. I was planning on having her as the black NPC assassin irregardless.

[Italicized]

@vancexentan

Servant Character Sheet

Class:

Assassin

Nicknames:

"Old Man of the Mountain"

"Hassan of the Six Senses"

Alignment:

Lawful Evil

Servant of:

Weapon(s):

Trained and most deadly with their hands

Wish:

... A Wish for what?

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Class Skills:

Presence Concealment (A+)

The ability to hide one's presence as a Servant which at this rank, is suitable for spying. With his senses honed to an extreme level stacked along with his training, he is capable of understanding even more subtle nuances on hiding his presence that has allowed him to drift on the edges of perception. It allows for Assassin to become near impossible to be detected, even against a Servant's perception. However, efficiency will decrease once preparations to attack are taken.

Personal Skills:

Eye of Mind - True (C)

A weapon wielded by none other than a mortal, gained through tenacious training. So long there is a chance of a comeback, this ability greatly improves the chances of winning. With his natural instincts are augmented with the training that he has undergone has allowed his senses and calculations to reach this level

Breathing and Walking (C)

While not in the realm of those who naturally possess the ability to replicate potent thaumaturgy, it still has allowed him access for simplistic magecraft that has basic purpose such as Reinforcement with the practice of a lifetime he has invested. By centering himself and his focus, it can result in a rank up to both ( Strength ) and ( Endurance ) as one of the techniques that he has learned. Bringing about a natural and controlled way of breathing and movement from Assassin that produces nothing wasted.

With neither any enmity or bloodlust being radiated from him until battle begins, with his training as a martial artist allows him to collect himself. When discovered and confrontation is inevitable, he simply enters with a clear murderous intent that shows his determination.

Art of the Mind - The Snake's Entanglement N/A)

One of the unique pieces about him as 'Old Man of the Mountain' is the stories that surrounds himself. As the founder of the fighting style known as "Snake" recorded in manuscripts found by No Name Assassin and function designated for Souichiro Kuzuki, allows for the quick take down of an individual. Designed for him to forgo having a weapon in exchange for him having an easier chance at getting close to his target with the element of surprise. The fighting style aims for the efficiency in taking down a target with fatal if not debilitating attacks, focusing on vital weak points like the forehead, throat, heart and spine, with each strike launched with extreme precision and quick speed.

Focused on its odd and unique style makes it difficult for opponents to comprehend, its takes advantage of Assassin's strength which is his unique understanding of the senses that people have. Having an intrinsic quality of (Knowledge of Respect and Harmony) at (C Rank) inherent to Assassin's mastery of the style that allows it to defy the senses of his opponents. It prevents the opponents from fully being able to comprehend and see through Assassin's fighting style during encounters, combined with its orthodox nature makes it extremely effective.

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Strength: (筋力, Kinryoku?):

C

Endurance: (耐久, Taikyū?):

C

Agility: (敏捷, Binshō?):

A

Magical Power: (魔力, Maryoku?):

B

Luck: (幸運, Kōun?):

E

Noble Phantasm: (宝具, Hōgu?):

D+

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Noble Phantasms

Name:
Zabaniya: Meditative Sensitivity

Rank:
D+

Type:
Anti-Unit

Range:
Self

Description:
Each one of the nineteen had to earn their title by proving their piety through obtaining a divine miracle bearing the name of Shayṭān that met the criteria of that which could swiftly and reliably bring death to its target. All of them, with the exception of The Hundred-Faced Hassan who had a qualifying in-born ability, modified their bodies to achieve their own miracles, earning them their titles.

The acquisition of such a skill was never on his mind, for calling himself as a contender for the title of "Old Man of the Mountain" would had just been a funny joke to him back in the day. In Assassin's case, rather than just adding or subtracting from their own bodies, they were born with a particular trait. Not particularly useful in its natural and raw state, Assassin was able to develop it into a fine and beautiful weapon in the duration of his life time.

Skilled in usage martial arts that separated him from the weaponry of his other peers, for was it wrong for himself to continuously improve for the good of the group? He trained himself daily with his peers, doing what was needed of him for each day in and out, rinsing and repeating. During one of his session of intense training, he came upon the ideal form of breathing and walking techniques for his martial arts that help improved himself, a solid foundation to build up further upon. While not in the realm of those who naturally possess the ability to replicate potent thaumaturgy, his training had affected him in the perfect way, bringing about a natural and controlled way of breathing and steps that produce no wasted movement. This Noble Phantasm can be activated both when Assassin is stationary and in motion, receiving its plus modifier when he is in a state of concentrated focus such as meditation.

These techniques helped him hone his senses to extreme levels, placing him in the right state of mind. His natural instincts that he was born with were only further honed with the training that he placed himself through, sharpening its edge through experience and use. It allows him both to understand the senses that he has on a more intimate level along with how to dance around the senses of others as well.

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True Name:

Hassan-i-Sabbah

I guess a final check before being offical?

[vancexentan]

I don't see too many problems with it at the moment I'll let it through but you need a master.

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@vancexentan
All right will get onto that part next~ Thanks!

[vancexentan]

@ReflectionReflection are you almost done with Poe? You still need a master after all.

[Reflection]

Yeah, done with Poe. I've been tossing ideas about for a Master, and nothing good is coming up. I might end up going with a person who uses familiars in the shape of birds, and one of them is a phoenix.

[vancexentan]

Alright I may make Nevermore's effects lessened by the effects of magic resistance (repelling it not making it less effective I mean) but otherwise there's nothing explicitly wrong with it to my knowledge. As for your mage idea that sounds basically like an Illya mage. An offensive magic construct user? @Reflection

[Reflection]

@vancexentan Correct. Edgar's main method of attack is by debuffing his enemies using fear to weaken them, and eventually overwhelm them with sheer numbers.

[vancexentan]

Guys I know you all have lives, and are busy but can you hurry up? It's been Almost a week now and we got...two servants done?