[OOC] CLOSED - Ultimate One Universe: Season One

[Nib]

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Just cause it's 'One Universe' you don't need to make a Marvel Hero into a GL or a DC char into a NovaCorps. You can always just use a generic char and have the differences be due to the union, like I'm sure the GL-Corps is different with the NovaCorps existence and vice versa, like Bounce said.

@Sep

That's true. I'm just wanting to utilize the One Universe to its extent, and I think my immediate thought is always "Who can I mash together and how?".

[Sep]

@Nib yeah but it's kinda unnecessary.

[Nib]

@Nib yeah but it's kinda unnecessary.

@Sep

Yeah, I know. I also struggle with feeling like I don't know enough about any particular character (especially compared to you all) to write them well enough and stay true to the character.

[Sep]

@Nib I knew nothing about Hulk bar the MCU when I wrote him in games.

I also knew barely anything about Colosuss when I wrote him in New Frontier.

[Lord Wraith]

Honestly better to use the one universe IC then to make contrived concepts for the sake of using as many ingredients as possible.

The best burgers use the least amount of ingredients. It's all about how you dress it.

[HenryJonesJr]

Personally, when it comes to mashups, I prefer them to come later and organically in game rather than starting off with them. It allows the game to grow and become its own thing. For instance, in the old, original OU on the Hype, we actually used the Darkclaw character from Amalgam when Wolverine posed as Batman for a time, or when Daredevil became a Green Lantern.

[HenryJonesJr]

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Yeah, I know. I also struggle with feeling like I don't know enough about any particular character (especially compared to you all) to write them well enough and stay true to the character.

@Nib

I think that’s the benefit of making an Ultimate character. You can make the character anything you want. Just take the base details you know and do whatever you want with them

[Sep]

Introducing Iris West everybody. I decided to go the route of introducing the Hero first, then the person behind the mask second.

Gotta go to work, hope y'all enjoy it.

[Morden Man]

I'd echo Wraith's thoughts.

Plus it's a One Universe game, not an amalgam game. We aren't setting out to amalgamate characters here. We're combining two universes while interpreting/modernising the characters in them. There might be some amalgamation of certain aspects along the way but to set out to amalgamate characters as an end in and of itself is probably a little misguided.

[Nib]

I'd echo Wraith's thoughts.

Plus it's a One Universe game, not an amalgam game. We aren't setting out to amalgamate characters here. We're combining two universes while interpreting/modernising the characters in them. There might be some amalgamation of certain aspects along the way but to set out to amalgamate characters as an end in and of itself is probably a little misguided.

@Morden Man

Also true.

[Retired]

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I knew it was Rade.

@Nightrunner

It wasn't a secret. Or hard to figure out.

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Are all three of you secretly the same person?

@Sep

Sep, I can't tell if you're serious or not. I'm pretty sure we talked about this directly via DMs once when I was still using Nexus Prime.

[Lord Wraith]

Great posts @AndyC and @stark.

I'm loving the younger characterization of Superman and Stark and Pepper were spot on.

Interested in seeing where both stories go!

[Eddie Brock]

Amalgamations are a tricky one. Personally, I don't have as much of an issue if it's something like Green Lantern or Dr. Fate; when the powers are tied to an object, who's to say that a Marvel character wouldn't find it before a DC character or vice versa? But I always try to keep it in the realm of "which characters run in the same circles?" Carol Danvers is a perfect Lantern, IMO, because she's already so tied to space. Many of her allies and enemies transfer over. But something like Matt Murdock GL? It's trickier.

[Retired]

Amalgamations are a tricky one. Personally, I don't have as much of an issue if it's something like Green Lantern or Dr. Fate; when the powers are tied to an object, who's to say that a Marvel character wouldn't find it before a DC character or vice versa? But I always try to keep it in the realm of "which characters run in the same circles?" Carol Danvers is a perfect Lantern, IMO, because she's already so tied to space. Many of her allies and enemies transfer over. But something like Matt Murdock GL? It's trickier.

@Eddie Brock

I hear you, and if I'm understanding correctly, you're saying you want me to do a Bruce Banner who made a deal with an old wizard in a floating rock to obtain incredibly, Marvel-ous might.

Understood.

[Nib]

Amalgamations are a tricky one. Personally, I don't have as much of an issue if it's something like Green Lantern or Dr. Fate; when the powers are tied to an object, who's to say that a Marvel character wouldn't find it before a DC character or vice versa? But I always try to keep it in the realm of "which characters run in the same circles?" Carol Danvers is a perfect Lantern, IMO, because she's already so tied to space. Many of her allies and enemies transfer over. But something like Matt Murdock GL? It's trickier.

@Eddie Brock

I've been thinking of possible Marvel characters to don the Helmet of Fate. I did present my very convaluted concept abstract of the helmet being used as a Nova helmet and being transferred to Richard Rider to grant him Fate's powers but being able to maintain control because of the helmet being tampered with by the Nova Cors. No one commented on it so I took that as a confirmation of it being too convaluted. Haha.

[Retired]

Generally, when you're stuck on what to do and unsure of direction, then the cardinal rule of life applies: keep it simple, stupid.

[Nib]

Generally, when you're stuck on what to do and unsure of direction, then the cardinal rule of life applies: keep it simple, stupid.

@Retired

Yeah... Does anyone remember the character whose suit kinda looks like Spider-Man, and he travels through black holes? He's a relatively new character I believe. Can't remember if he's DC or Marvel.

Edit: Never mind. Found him. It's Sideways.

[Eddie Brock]

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I hear you, and if I'm understanding correctly, you're saying you want me to do a Bruce Banner who made a deal with an old wizard in a floating rock to obtain incredibly, Marvel-ous might.

Understood.

@Retired

Dammit...

*deletes backup CS*

[Master Bruce]

Amalgamations are a tricky one. Personally, I don't have as much of an issue if it's something like Green Lantern or Dr. Fate; when the powers are tied to an object, who's to say that a Marvel character wouldn't find it before a DC character or vice versa? But I always try to keep it in the realm of "which characters run in the same circles?" Carol Danvers is a perfect Lantern, IMO, because she's already so tied to space. Many of her allies and enemies transfer over. But something like Matt Murdock GL? It's trickier.

@Eddie Brock

I can see the potential with Daredevil and GL based on the nature of his powers mixed with it's power. Part of what makes Kyle Rayner a great GL is because he has a grand visual mind, leading to amazing constructs. How does a blind man take that and make it a strength, especially when his senses largely rely on nothing that exists in the vacuum of space? It's a story that feels worth telling, despite the contrast.

But let's take another amalgamation: Batman and Iron Man. Both are rich orphans who use technology to fight crime. One is a deadly serious obsessive, the other is a good natured narcissist. And combined, it's... boring. You either get Batman in an iron suit or Iron Man with a bat motif and little else to really work with. Maybe a few fun rogues gallery mash-ups, but with Batman's trouncing Iron Man's, that just seems dumb after a certain point.

My point is, you've got to think of it thematically, too. You've got to value what stories can actually be told and be excited for them, otherwise it's just a gimmick.

[Master Bruce]

(Which is why if there's ever an Amalgam game made, I'm gonna shoot for Batman/Daredevil. Because goddammit, I will never let the idea of a Batman who has actual echolocation go.)