[OOC] Tabrasa\- Born of Chaos.

[Lmpkio]

@A Lowly Wretch Ah ok. I can still manage with that - I think. Still trying to figure how they could come to be.

Probably they were once originally separated and had their whole individual weather components, they met one day, and became essentially to gods of weather. If you have any suggestions or preferences feel free to let me know.

[Lmpkio]

Alright! I did Drakarios' biography. I think it's OK for now.

[Stern Algorithm]

OK, I would like to submit a God, but I want to get some OK's from a few people.

So my god has a pretty far-reaching ambition. My god is inspired by pre-Lord of the Rings Sauron, when he was known by the name Annatar, who was essentially an angel of order, which is why his primary motivation is to control everything. Another source of inspiration is Yaldabaoth the Architect from Gnosticism, a lower divinity up-jumped to being administrator of the world, becoming a cruel, jealous, and angry god. There's also a bit of Marvel Comics' Galactus, whose raison-d'etre was essentially hijacked by MCU Thanos, 'Perfectly balanced, as all things should be'.

So I want my domain to be 'Law'. This would start out as 'human law', the natural reaction to @Lord Zee's Anu'Varr's Sin Curse, as with the creation of sin, so too must be born morality; after crime, punishment. I realize this may step on the toes of @Kalas' Ahzriel, who judges the souls of the dead, but the difference here would be that Ahzriel enacts Divine Law, which is judgment of the soul after death, while my god seeks to establish Worldly Law, the attempt of humans to reach for and understand divine law, and to practice it while they live. It is my hope then, that my god can grasp first the divine cord of civilization, which is essentially the application of law and governance to a much larger scale. It is also my hope that as the humans advance, with the help of @Rune_Alchemist's Iva'Krorh, they will begin to understand natural laws that govern the universe, and that my god will then grasp first the divine cords of 'Universal Laws', and 'Mathematics'. My ultimate goal is to become the god of 'Order', rivaling 'Chaos', through these slow, methodical, innocuous step-by-step processes. I'm playing the long-con.

My god will be the first to attempt to establish a global, organized religion, in which all gods are worshiped as part of a pantheon, and will try to convince Ahzriel to use Neberziel, The Underworld as a 'hell', and for @Duoya's Hayim to close off Akhuz, The Endless Meadows to the living, reserving it only for the virtuous dead, using it as a 'heaven'.

My God will start off as an almost purely administrative, bureaucratic type, obsessed with details and stressed out about the fine print, who over time becomes hungrier and hungrier for power in order to force the world into one of sterile harmony, like someone obsessively trying to build a house of cards, someone obsessed with concepts of perfection and disgusted by entropy.

So yeah, please let me know if the possibility of such an ambition is acceptable. I realize that I am laying all my cards on the table, but the point is that my god would operate through measured, calculated ways, creating win-win situations, and slowly building up power by claiming things that the other god's wouldn't even think of wanting until it is too late. because much of law is busy work, its the day-in day-out bureaucratic administrative BS that people love to hate.

I was also thinking that my god doesn't have a realm yet, instead occupying an 'office space' in one of the other god's realm doing menial bean-counting work. I think working for Ahzriel or Iva'Krorh at the beginning makes the most sense.

Here's an image of my god:


Put that on my Tabula

[A Lowly Wretch]

@Lmpkio - There are a few details I wish to discuss before I can accept Drakarios. Firstly, the matter of the three dragons becoming one. One detail of Divine Cords is that they cannot be divided amongst multiple beings. Basically either one of the dragons had the cord and the others were divine creations of the main dragon or they are three gods rolled into one which creates a problem. If all of them had such cords before combining this would essentially mean the sum three of them would end up fused together forming three Divine Cords woven together, essentially allowing this god to hold three domains all at once right away even though all new gods are strictly limited to one. Now, while this theoretically is okay since I'll be allowing everyone to make as many gods as they're okay to handle having a single god that is really three gods right off the bat doesn't sit well with me. Perhaps if you were to hold off on having the two other dragon gods appear until after a couple rounds of posting and then have the meeting of the three take place in the actual rp as opposed to the biography section it would be much less problematic. On the other hand if you wish to go the route of having the other two be divine creations of Drakarios, essentially parts of his body that can split off from him but hold no Divine Cords of their own, then that's quite acceptable.

My second concern is with a segment in Drakarios's biography. I don't like having "Unnamed" gods and goddesses that aren't direct creations of yourself appearing in your god's past to make declarations. Unless you plan on making these unspecified deities yourself I'd consult with other players with existing gods to see if they'd like to have that be something they did. I'm not going to play host to any gods or goddesses that aren't my direct creations as NPC's since all gods and goddesses present in this rp hold a great deal of importance in the scope of matters. There are no nondescript deities, thus, that scene cannot have taken place. Tying back to my first problem with this god this wouldn't be a problem if the meeting took place in the rp itself since the existing gods could involve themselves however little or however much as they feel like, removing the whole problem of NPC gods entirely since there would be none present.

Lastly I think having the ice head govern all aspects of winter might be of issue since Sveiand holds total regency over the cold. While things such blizzards and snow storms as a lesser domain are quite acceptable I think Sveiand would probably still hold final say on matters of all things cold. Also Ragnagedan is the same for fire but things like tornadoes and desert droughts are less his thing so it's a bit better for the fire dragon. If the fire and ice dragons were simply divine constructs born from the main dragon this wouldn't be a problem either since neither of them could overrule the respective gods anyways.

Overall I'd be happy to discuss alternative solutions to these problems. As it stands though your character's acceptance will need to wait for the time being.

@Stern Algorithm - I quite like this character conceptually, a somewhat more villainous god who's main aim is to establish order through whatever means necessary. There are hidden ramifications to him choosing the domain of Order that tie into the history of the world before the gods came to be which may become evident later on in the rp. Things like the laws of physics and the rules which govern the placement of sub-space doors were set long ago which largely leaves your god with regency over establishing order within mankind.

Still, if you want to take up the mantle of the God of Order you're welcome to make him. One thing is that I cannot wholly guarantee that the domains you've asked for will show up since, due to matters pertaining to the nature of Divine Cords, what cords appear for which domains are more or less random. After all there are currently no gods of the ocean, no gods of the sun or the moon nor of the earth itself. What gods appeared for which domains were largely decided at random and such is how new ones appear; Randomly.

For a more OOC reason for this while I support people growing their gods and their domains if one starts getting multiple domains then everyone else will want more to their own which essentially starts everyone down the road of a divine arms race. Early on especially I'll be pretty tight-fisted in regards to handing out extra domains since each time something like that occurs there is bound to be strife within the divine community. I pull too many extra domains out of my hat and there'll be too much strife, wars might very well break out and the amount of power put in the lucky opportunist's hands would likely create devastation across the land. As I said, it's a bit much for a world so young, especially when the divine have so many other matters to quarrel over as it is.

Alas you are welcome to make your god for me to review. How the other gods mentioned interact with him is almost entirely up to the respective players so I have no real say on that matter.

[thewizardguy]

@A Lowly Wretch

So would it be fine if the Lost Lands simply had a large number of hidden entrances? If you feel having too many entrances is overpowered, I could say that any entrance that is definitively known about destroys itself soon after. That they can only exist so long as they haven't been discovered, so to speak. A mortal wandering through without noticing wouldn't harm one, but being placed on a map would cause it to pretty much instantly implode.

[Rune_Alchemist]

@Stern Algorithm

Hm

I feel as though I must first mention, Iva would 100% detest any order or god thereof. Mostly because he himself, views Chaos as the ultimate end of anything. He'll probably find it amusing to see how long this orderly god and his pantheon of fools lasts, if he gets that far, but other than that he'll likely have nothing to do with the god. I suppose he could work in White Dawn or the Library, if no one else is offering, but he'll probably end up being the butt of Iva's oddness.

As well, I did plan to have Iva basically eventually have the domains of 'Science and Invention', so I see no conflicts there as far as yours go, though 'Mathematics' would be a sub-domain of Science I feel. Aside from that, I certainly do like the idea of this god.

@A Lowly Wretch

And for you, I have a particular ability I'd like to run by you that Iva could potentially have, and its how he mostly adds things to the library directly, without having to wait for it simply to show up. Do tell if there are problem, as I can see how this could be considered problematic but I am definitely willing to potentially work on it.

Portam Aeternum

The Library is almost as voracious as Iva is. It desires to be filled, desires to be full of knowledge. The surrounding frigid lands desire to be filled with knowledge of all sorts, rather they need to be. Now, over time they will surely be filled. The Library itself sees to this, automatically collecting and archiving thoughts and creations of man - but it isn't enough. It would take years, centuries, an entire gods lifespan to fill the void.

So Iva at times, can decide to...expedite the process. An ability that allows for complete and full archival of anything the god wishes, and puts it inside the Library and its surrounding frigid lands. The way it functions is simple - Iva uses his power to temporarily anchor a Gate to his realm upon the object in question, thus drawing it into Cy'Lathak.

This can be anything - a single person, a single object, or an entire city. Of course, the larger the object the more is required. A single object or person may not require much divine energy, but an entire city, full of people? He could do either or for less, but both would require him being weak for the following year. Divine-class objects and people would be far more tiring than a normal object of similar size.

Once the object has been transferred to the library, they are randomly placed inside the frigid lands surrounding it. Buildings and objects shall be preserved here for eternity, lest someone removes them from the realm. People will be able to live here, but likely not for long in its current state for there is no arable soil, or animals to hunt and the cold will likely kill them first. Lastly, items and people forcefully bought here by this ability will have their entire lives biography written and archived in the library. Objects will have the exact nature of how they were made, and how they were developed broken down and written, and a persons life shall be recorded in the halls of the Library forever.

No other god knows of this ability, as it has yet to be used.

[Duoya]

@Stern Algorithm
Hayim would almost certainly say no to restricting access to his realm - his entire worldview and purpose for living is to help as many humans as possible, and condemning them to an eventual death probably wouldn't be om his to-do list, no matter how convincing someone is.

... Of course, tricking him is always an option. He isn't the brightest flower in the field. But if you do that, you might need @Archangel89's help.

[Dealdric]

Dirka's labirynth is made, and so are the rules of her domain.

[jetipster]

Lastly I think having the ice head govern all aspects of winter might be of issue since Sveiand holds total regency over the cold. While things such blizzards and snow storms as a lesser domain are quite acceptable I think Sveiand would probably still hold final say on matters of all things cold.

@A Lowly Wretch

@Lmpkio
I don't want to sound like a douche but I think I'm going to have to agree with @A Lowly Wretch and ask you to re-think that part of your CS. I love the whole concept I really do and so I'm sorry that I've already claimed the aspect of 'cold'. Blizzards and snow storms I can be cool with you using but Ros "managing all aspects of the winter season as well as managing the ice and snow levels across the realm" is basically my character.

I'm happy to hash out some more ideas if you want to message me.

[Lmpkio]

@A Lowly Wretch@jetipster - No worries. I’ll try to think of some other way to incorporate my character into how it is. The additional construct could definitely be a thing. Have Dra be the original head and through gaining some artifact he’d become the master of the weather, whilst also adding two other heads heads that represent a part of his psychi and also manage different parts of the weather. Kai is mostly droughts and other non-precipitation weather whilst Ros is simply managing snowstorms, hail and other ice related storms (not winter as a whole)

[Dealdric]

@A Lowly Wretch

I decided to change something for Dirka

Seeing as to how rituals require chanting or singing, I wanted to make her a little obsessed with music, and changing one title from mad lady to mad musician.

Is this okay with you?

[A Lowly Wretch]

@thewizardguy - Having a large number of entrances is certainly acceptable. Having many entrances has it's advantages and disadvantages. One such disadvantage is that if he wants the entrances enchanted with divine magic in a particular manner it'll take a bit of effort to enchant a whole bunch of them. If he doesn't want the magic to weaken with the passage of time either he'll need to maintain them too which can also take a fair bit of effort. Just like mortals gods can grow tired from exertion, even if they are capable of far greater feats than any mortal. For example an earth god could use his power to split the main continent in two but afterwards he'd need to take a god nap before he'd be back to his old self. Ultimately the consequences for exertion are small but when other gods are involved even a small disadvantage can be an opening others can take advantage of.

@Rune_Alchemist - If I'm correct it's basically a combination of a portal and a scanning spell, yes? If so then it's quite fine but do bear in mind that since Iva'Krorh is the god of knowledge and not the god of portals or transportation it'll be far harder for him to move things than it would be to scan them. If a god wanted to protect something or someone from being abducted in this manner there are a number of domains which if used correctly would allow them to supercede this power, especially if they were intervening directly.

You're free to add that but as a possible suggestion scanning things directly can also fall within his domain if you wish.

@Lmpkio - Excellent. Do let me know when those changes are applied to the CS and I'll give it another look-over.

@Dealdric - That is quite fine. I'll give the details a read when I get the opportunity.

@Legion02 - Just a quick proposal: How would you feel in regards to having a small tribe of humans revere Ragnagedon?

[thewizardguy]

@A Lowly Wretch
So when, approximately, can we expect this to start?

I am excited.

[Rune_Alchemist]

@A Lowly Wretch

Aye, you are correct, and it's basically what I assumed would be the case.

I mostly want to have the transportation thing simply for my own thematic reasons and for the appearance of Iva's Realm later on. Basically Its supposed to end up looking like a mishmash of a number of different things from different eras that Iva has taken a liking too or deemed important, all stored and filed away in a rather chaotic way.

Of course, I would certainly be willing to make it just a 'scan spell' of sorts to catalog things if I could potentially think of something else to help achieve that end but at the moment I got nothing. I suppose he could create perfect replicas in his own realm, but that feels a little...inauthentic, and Iva wouldn't really do that.

[A Lowly Wretch]

@Rune_Alchemist - It's quite alright. I'm good with the idea you're going for. He may end up arm-wrestling Somler for ownership of lost or forgotten places.

@thewizardguy - Either tonight or tomorrow. I'm working on the intro even now.

[Rune_Alchemist]

@A Lowly Wretch

Perhaps? But the idea is that they're not lost. At least, not to him. The world may very well forget it, but they're preserved in his realm, along with all the knowledge therein. Though, I suppose it is similar on some level in regards to mortals, at least. I always did intend for him to take knowledge as much as give it, just for giggles to see what humans of different Eras or locations do with the same knowledge after some time of it having been deemed a lost art or some such.

Like say...for example, White Dawn attempts doing something extremely dangerous. They blow themselves up. Iva uses the ability, transfers the city, their results, people, everything that's left to his realm as a way of saying 'this is as far as they go.' Later on...possibly someone else attempts the same thing. Iva could very well help them and let them have access to the preserved places if he thinks they earned the right, simply curious to see what the outcome of it would be that time.

Anyways, enough of my late night rambling, hah. Another question.

Could a god alter their own Divine Cords? Say, not to give them any new domains or anything, but experiment on themselves or another to perhaps fundamentally change their existence, or otherwise alter them in some way? Or would that be a no?

[A Lowly Wretch]

@Rune_Alchemist - You'll have to find out. I will only confirm or deny knowledge regarding the Divine Cords that exist among the gods. What's unknown will need to be made known.

[Rune_Alchemist]

I'll just add that on my todo list then, heh.

[Stern Algorithm]

@A Lowly Wretch

OK, so I thought this whole thing was intended to be an arms race, however, if that is something that we would ideally like to avoid, I can tone down the megalomania a bit. I think 'God of Order' is still going to be my 'final goal', but whether that ends up happening or not will be up to how the story evolves. Despite giving off a lot of evil vibes in my initial description, my god is more like some guy in a garage, he has a job to do and he needs tools, and over time, he has a massive tool rack he's not even sure what to do with. I suppose what's really insidious is that my god accumulates power through bargaining, reasoned argumentation, and contracts. I mean, he is the God of Law, so he would have the silver tongue of a lawyer. He just wants to form alliances with the other gods, consolidate human communities, put everything into neat little boxes, and make sure everything in the world is running smoothly according to his vision.

@Rune_Alchemist

My god would argue that, given the evidence of the human communities that have formed, and the discoveries that they have made, that a 'state of nature' in which humans must live like beasts and focus entirely on survival is not conducive to them making discoveries. Only an ordered society, one where tasks concerning survival are delegated, will allow a subset of the population the luxury of seeking knowledge. At least, this would be his proposal to Iva. My god wants to build good relations with the gods, and wants all or most of the gods to be in some sort of tentative non-aggression pact, and will gladly be the mediator between the gods and their worshipers (ie. middle management), since many of the more arrogant gods may feel that dealing directly with the mortals is beneath them. Basically, my god sees a pie and many hungry gods, so my god has offered to slice the pie. I may also relinquish making a mad dash-grab for Mathematics, since I agree as a player that that would fall under Iva's domain more.

@Duoya

So from what I can gather, Azhriel's realm of the dead tortures and punishes wicked souls, while returning virtuous souls to be reincarnated. But then, the reincarnation would have another opportunity to become wicked, so what is essentially happening is that souls keep getting reincarnated until they perform wickedness, and are then doomed to be imprisoned in the underworld to suffer eternally, which means that the inevitable end of all humans is suffering. By reserving The Endless Meadows for the virtuous dead, Hayim would be offering an escape from the endless loop. And by teaching the humans the reward of living a virtuous life, and the punishment of living a wicked life, they are incentivized to do good and minimize harm, which I'm sure Hayim can get behind. Anyways, this will all play out in the RP, but I'm just showing that I have reasoned arguments and don't need to resort to deception.

Also, is the name Hayim taken from Hebrew?

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Alright, and without further ado, I present, Gammaton, The Intercessor

The God of Law

Name: Gammaton, The Intercessor, Lord of the Flies

Domain: Law

Appearance:

Gammaton has an insectoid form, rather than the indistinct shapes that fleshy, blubbery, musclebound creatures take, arthropods have perfectly defined, unchanging, hard segments that hinge around their joints. From his many eyes, he sees all around him, vigilant. From the many hairs on his limbs, he hears and feels, sensitive to small changes and transgressions. From his back protrude spines, used to mark, carve, delineate, and scribe, eventually to write. Gammaton accessorizes according to whichever mortal he is interacting with, donning signs of authority, whether that be scepter, cloak, crown, jewelry, or otherwise.

Realm: Simyalaymis - The Braided Jungle

Simyalaymis, The Braided Jungle, is a thriving ecosystem with certain unique properties. The main structural vegetation: the trees, are all a single organism, connected and communicating by the roots. Parasitic vines loop through the foliage, connecting branch to branch. Fungal networks sprawl underfoot through mycelium. Herds of herbivores, packs of carnivores, swarms of insects, colonies of rodents, everything seems to live in communal organizational systems. At the heart of it all is Gammaton's seat of power, The Administrative Hive, a towering anthill, crowned by a floral arrangement of bees' nests suspended above it by an interwoven network of vines and branches. A tall dark slit into the anthill forms the door for humanoid mortals to enter into Gammaton's subspace pocket. The Hive's interior takes whatever form is most familiar to the mortal when it comes to conveying managerial authority, perhaps a Chieftain's hut or tent for now, perhaps a desk or office in the future. One thing that is always true of the interior is that it is decorated primarily with woven material: canvas, tapestries, flags, banners, silk hangings, and the like depending on theme. The ground is also littered with trails of ants and the air abuzz with bees, carrying messages whether it be in the form of knots, writings on leaves, clay inscriptions, bones, tortoiseshells, or paper.

Biography:

In a fight over territory, one mantis slays another mantis. The victor then flies off, only to become caught in the intricately woven web of a spider. The web is inescapable, as the spider pounces, entangling the mantis until finally, it sinks its fangs in. The punishment fits the crime. Except animals cannot commit crimes. No. Sin is a uniquely human trait. To not allow themselves to revert to a state of animal versus animal, man versus man, it became necessary that certain transgressions are punished within the budding human communes for two reasons: that the transgressor is either reprimanded or removed permanently, and to serve as a deterrent to others. Sweeter than vengeance: Justice. With the first stroke administered by man, not for personal gain, but for the greater good of the community, the Divine Cord of Law hummed into existence. It sought a pleasing form, one of fixed shapes, one of networks and communities, one of vigilance. It found a home, moist and vibrant in which to settle, surrounded by the laws of the wild, from where he will lord over the laws of man. Yet if laws promoted the refinement of man, then so too must laws promote the refinement of gods. This young world was subject to such mighty forces that must be put in check. Gammaton vowed to seek his brethren and to play peacekeeper. The world was messy enough as it was without the gods scrambling it even more. Gammaton was sure deals could be struck, agreements could be made. This world was big enough, they just needed to share.

Alone, Gammaton is stressed, since chaos and disorder in the human realm bother him, so in the Hive, he is often wringing his hands, pacing back and forth, and crawling up the walls, his mind preoccupied with thoughts of busy work and managerial responsibilities, while he weaves and contemplates methods to rein in human impulses. With the other gods, he is amicable and is always trying to find peaceful solutions to disagreements. He believes that if the gods can be peaceful, then so can the humans, since it is the changes in the natural world that push humans to scarcity, which leads to violence. Gammaton seeks to understand his fellow gods as much as possible to understand how best to placate their desires. Among the humans, he appears as a wandering prophet, wise man, or shaman, offering governing advice to their leaders.

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Put that on my Tabula

[Noodles]

Was late for my CS, but let me know if there's anything I need to work on ~

Ral the God of Treasures

Name: Ral the God of Treasures

Domain: Treasure

Appearance: Being a god that emerged after humanity is born, Ral appears mostly in his human form.

Realm: On an island located in the physical world, surrounded by malevolent storms. Tales of the treasure island is known throughout the human realm, and it is said that entrance is only granted to those of dire needs. A land of gold and jewels scattered across the shores, but it is said at the heart of the island, the God of Treasures will appear and give the passenger the most valuable treasure.

Biography: Ral is one of the younger gods, emerged from the time man started seeking for gold and treasury. He is a god associated with wealth and prosperity. He often gives people who visits his realm magical items that he forged. He specialises in forging divine equipments, and those gifts to men grants them varying power. Like the Binding Sword, Truth Seeking Rod, Ring of Copying. However, he is known to be a benevolent but a very careless god, and time and time again, his objects are used beyond its intended purposes, especially when it falls into the wrong hands. In response to that, he simply created more treasures in hopes of retrieving his scattered artefacts, for he is the kind of god who rarely thinks of unintended consequences.

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His creations are mainly artefact that grants varying powers. It is commonly known that nothing beside a god or the void could destroy Ralas' Artefacts. But it can be sealed, hidden, or more often than not, misused.

Sword of Mastery - A sword that he gave to a promising Warrior, it allows a person to bind one senses to the blade, so that the swordsman to master the sword. It ended up becoming an object of slavery after the death of the original user, since Ral have never considered once to add a limit on the number of wielders. It is more often known amongst humans as the Binding Blade, or sword of a hundred men.

Ring of Copying - A ring that can copy anything other than creations, life and death. Intended to just grant limitless gold to a follower, instead it became known as a Cursed Ring over time. Few knew how the ring was originally used, but it is known to replicate things like madness.

Truth Seeking Rod - Ral's newest artefact made for his own purpose. One cannot lie in front of the Crystal Rod, not without any help from gods. The Rod points towards the nearest of Ral's treasure.

"Put that on my Tabula"