[OOC] HCL 2: Twisted tinkers' triumph

[ShadowVentus]

Um..are you suggesting he's in denial? XD

[Akihisa Yoshii]

Um..are you suggesting he's in denial? XD

ShadowVentus

Just doing what I do best, which is striking nerves and being the local pest!

[thewizardguy]

Shh, sssshhhh! *I place a finger over your mouth, forcing your silence* It's OK. You are who you are, own up to it. Nobody will find you any less badass, friend.

Akihisa Yoshii

No, I've actually never watched the show past the first two episodes. I don't think you can be a brony without watching the show, or liking the show.

[Teoinsanity]

Um..are you suggesting he's in denial? XD

ShadowVentus

Just doing what I do best, which is striking nerves and being the local pest!

Akihisa Yoshii

THAT'S MY JOB! But I only do that to people who anger easily,and wiz isn't one

[Akihisa Yoshii]

THAT'S MY JOB! But I only do that to people who anger easily,and wiz isn't one

Teoinsanity

I'm the original, and I do it to whoever I please. Creed: He is the original annoyance. Clarent: Lame thing to be the original of, but whatever...

[Wraithblade6]

Doctor Whooves! Also, not a brony.

thewizardguy

Shh, sssshhhh! *I place a finger over your mouth, forcing your silence* It's OK. You are who you are, own up to it. Nobody will find you any less badass, friend.

Akihisa Yoshii

Ohh... It's Dr. Who. I had no idea. Still, I think you are a bronie.... and adorable bronie.

[Teoinsanity]

Hey wiz ,I want to keep toguru alive if the ray hits him ,because I can like send him to a prison pocket dimension where he can't escape instead of just killing him

[Kaichiiro]

I'm so tired ;-; it's only Wednesday and I'm dying already

[Kaichiiro]

.........it's not even Wednesday Frick I give up

[Wraithblade6]

Go nap.

[kishin asura]

Well, since you said alpha, despite being an infinite force of creation, can create anything EXCEPT for outcomes and nonexistance, I'll just have to ask an age old question. Why is it so? Because according to you, alpha is an infinite force of creation. While the word infinite has many meanings, such as being endless, being immeasurably great, and extending to infinity, another definition of infinite is "not being subject to limitation" therefore, alpha CAN create all that stuff.

kishin asura

Creating nonexistence is the antithesis of creation. If Alpha can create nonexistence, then Omega can destroy it, thereby creating things. The process of creation is defined by the fact that it brings things into existence, so to create nonexistence is a paradox in and of itself. Creating outcomes isn't 'creating' things. In order to 'create' an outcome, Alpha would have to change your free will, and force you to make certain choices. However, Alpha can't mind-control people, and has no control over your decisions. An outcome isn't a thing, it's a state of affairs, a possible series of actions leading to a state. Alpha could create a universe which contained any state of affairs that would be created in an outcome, such as Genocide, dead, and you guys, voctorious. However, it could not force that image upon an existing universe.

thewizardguy

Paradox or not, as alpha is omnificent, it can create anything with no limits. Speaking of no limits, omega is an infinite force of destruction. Infinite meaning no limits. And since once omega gets loose it'll destroy everything, based on the fact both alpha and omega are omnipotent in regards to their respective concepts, assuming it'll destroy everything, including nonexistance and itself, isn't too much of a stretch. I say this because well, consider the following. In order to be destroyed, something has to exist. Conversely, this mean it has to have been created in some way in order to exist. Try as you might, you cannot deny the fact that nonexistance does technically exist. It's true. In regards to the outcome thing, sure, I could believe that the alpha can't alter the free will of a living being. But what about altering the surroundings of said living beings?

[ShadowVentus]

THAT'S MY JOB! But I only do that to people who anger easily,and wiz isn't one

Teoinsanity

I'm the original, and I do it to whoever I please. Creed: He is the original annoyance. Clarent: Lame thing to be the original of, but whatever...

Akihisa Yoshii

Well, in retrospect, that's a tough title to hold onto. Morgan: Why's that? Well, there's usually a new form of annoyance waiting just around the corner. Morgan: Are you suggesting that you're easily annoyed? Nah. I'm just speaking from experience.

[Wraithblade6]

I'm sad our IC isn't moving.

[Akihisa Yoshii]

OOH OOH OOH LOOK AT MY SIG!

[Teoinsanity]

OOH OOH OOH LOOK AT MY SIG!

Akihisa Yoshii

Lel

[thewizardguy]

Paradox or not, as alpha is omnificent, it can create anything with no limits. Speaking of no limits, omega is an infinite force of destruction. Infinite meaning no limits. And since once omega gets loose it'll destroy everything, based on the fact both alpha and omega are omnipotent in regards to their respective concepts, assuming it'll destroy everything, including nonexistance and itself, isn't too much of a stretch. I say this because well, consider the following. In order to be destroyed, something has to exist. Conversely, this mean it has to have been created in some way in order to exist. Try as you might, you cannot deny the fact that nonexistance does technically exist. It's true. In regards to the outcome thing, sure, I could believe that the alpha can't alter the free will of a living being. But what about altering the surroundings of said living beings?

kishin asura

Anything that contradicts itself isn't allowed. By anyone. If any action you're attempting contradicts itself through it's very existence - or lack thereof - then it doesn't make any sense, and is to be discarded. Nonexistence does not exist. That's the definition of nonexistence. If it exists, then the term nonexistence doesn't apply anymore, because it exists. You stating that nonexistence exists made my head hurt >.< And yes, if Alpha wanted Genocide dead, he could pop in and drop the Universal equivalent of a tactical nuke.

[Teoinsanity]

so wiz,about the weaking Omegaians and putting em in prison pocketdiemnsoion?

[supertinyking]

so wiz,about the weaking Omegaians and putting em in prison pocketdiemnsoion?

Teoinsanity

If you want to capture them alive, I'd do so before Drac gets there, if he does. He's going to be a tad murder oriented with them.

[Wraithblade6]

I have a feeling it's going to be a long while before we ever see Drac. Personally, I'm not even sure he's a real character, seeing as how I have NEVER SEEN HIM!

[Kaichiiro]

OOH OOH OOH LOOK AT MY SIG!

Akihisa Yoshii

........that...that hurt my brain ;-; so many fandoms And I'm in like 5 of them.....I think <_<