Zoe Quinn.

[Dolerman]

Personally, I couldn't give a crap about a barely relevant game developer sleeping with other barely relevant game writers and reviewers.
BUT

1.This has nothing to do with feminism, she is just another example of most pseudo intellectual young people of this generation, a self righteous, dishonest hypocrite, there are many who are guilty of it.

2. I do feel a large percentage of her defenders either want to sleep with her or secretly practice the same behaviour, the insecurities are glaring.

[Dinh AaronMk]

Dipper said
Not anymore. It seems Zoe's lackies hacked the charity in an attempt to stop 4chan from looking better than Zoe. Also they capitalized /v/, making it a /V/ - Something Phil Fish did.Oh, and it also appears that Zoe Quinn used to run hackathons, and would know people who can hack.THATS RIGHT PEOPLE, SOCIAL JUSTICE WARRIORS TOOK DOWN A CHARITY FOR COLON CANCER TO KEEP THEIR FOES FROM LOOKING GOOD.

God dammit.

Well /pol/ and /v/. What do now...

[Dipper]

Dinh AaronMk said
God dammit.Well /pol/ and /v/. What do now...

I'd suggest the usual /r/aid tactics, but that would make Zoe look like the victim. Contact Indiegogo and ask them to fix what happened. It is what I'm doing.

[Chapatrap]

Dinh AaronMk said
But at least Vivian James is here to save us.

Vivian isn't amused by this comment.

[Gwazi Magnum]

Dipper said NO. DO NOT CALM DOWN! THIS WITCH AND HER MONGOLOID HORDES OF SJWS HAVE DONE THE UNFORGIVABLE! I'm not joking when I say that Zoe and Phil, and all the other SJW fuckers need to be completly and utterly destroyed. Spread the word to everywhere you can, man. LET IT BE KNOWN THAT SOCIAL JUSTICE WARRIORS AMD THEIR ILK HAVE SABOTAGED A CHARITY DESIGNED TO GET WOMEN INTO GAMING AND HELP CURE CHRONIC BUTTHURT DISEASE (Colon Cancer) BECAUSE THEY FELT LIKE IT.

I am discussing it in other places too...

It crosses a serious line with me when people start shutting down charities.

Dynamo Frokane said Personally, I couldn't give a crap about a barely relevant game developer sleeping with other barely relevant game writers and reviewers. BUT

1.This has nothing to do with feminism, she is just another example of most pseudo intellectual young people of this generation, a self righteous, dishonest hypocrite, there are many who are guilty of it.

2. I do feel a large percentage of her defenders either want to sleep with her or secretly practice the same behaviour, the insecurities are glaring.

1. Feminism has been quick to move to Zoe Quinns defense, it's been adopted by them as a feminist issue.

2. Basically White Knights? :P

But the main issue here is not her sexual habits, I couldn't care less how many guys she sleeps with as long as no one is getting hurt. What matters is that she used the sex so Journalist would be dishonest and give her game high ratings, hurting game journalism as a whole.

[data549]

Ah, Phil Fish. That is a name I haven't heard in a long time. From what I've read, his role in this mess just seems to be one big "LOOK AT ME, I'M IMPORTANT".

[HeySeuss]

Her basement dweller boyfriend needs to let go...or get a real doll, name it Zoe and work out the angst there. Something like that.

What a putz. And oh Internet, you're putzes too for going along with one kiddult's thwarted relationship rage.

edit: And before anyone accuses me thus, no I don't want to sleep with the woman. Never even knew who the hell she was until I did about a half hour's worth of background reading on the whole dust-up. Not my type.

But yeah, it's rather fucked up to assume that someone defending her must want to stick it in.

[Omega]

HeySeuss said
Her basement dweller boyfriend needs to let go...or get a real doll, name it Zoe and work out the angst there. Something like that. What a putz. And oh Internet, you're putzes too for going along with one kiddult's thwarted relationship rage.edit: And before anyone accuses me thus, no I don't want to sleep with the woman. Never even knew who the hell she was until I did about a half hour's worth of background reading on the whole dust-up. Not my type. But yeah, it's rather fucked up to assume that someone defending her must want to stick it in.

One of the problems is a decent number of her prominent defenders in the community already stuck it to her apparently.

Personally I did not care about this at all until sites for charities started getting taken down, my initial 5 seconds of research showed Zoe to be a drama queen and when I saw a 4chan board on the other side of the debate figured this was all just internet drama and gave it a pass.

edit: I still do not particularly care but recent events made me look into it and do actual research to figure out what the hell was going on.

[Dipper]

HeySeuss said
Her basement dweller boyfriend needs to let go...or get a real doll, name it Zoe and work out the angst there. Something like that. What a putz. And oh Internet, you're putzes too for going along with one kiddult's thwarted relationship rage.edit: And before anyone accuses me thus, no I don't want to sleep with the woman. Never even knew who the hell she was until I did about a half hour's worth of background reading on the whole dust-up. Not my type. But yeah, it's rather fucked up to assume that someone defending her must want to stick it in.

Actually the entire thing wasn't started by her boyfriend... Who, she raped. (By her own definition of rape, which, if you look at her tumblr, includes cheating.) And she has not denied that she cheated either - The girlfriend of one of her five fuckbuddies called her out, and her response was "blame him, not me, I'm guiltless here, AND a victim" and didn't apologize.

data549 said
Ah, Phil Fish. That is a name I haven't heard in a long time. From what I've read, his role in this mess just seems to be one big "LOOK AT ME, I'M IMPORTANT".

What do you think the chances are that Phil Fish Philled Zoe's Fish? ;)
(Just a joke. >.>')

[Brovo]

I wouldn't have even cared about this woman if she just left The Young Capitalist's contest alone. Couldn't do that.

*Sighs*

The reason this is blowing up is because people have finally hit boiling point about the corruption in the Games "Journalism" industry. They've finally gotten tired of people being fired for giving honest reviews. They've finally gotten tired of people being called misogynists, even when there's no evidence for it.

It's plainly obvious that they're outright no better than TMZ when articles like this are given the greenlight, but nobody wants to talk about how Zoe Quinn stated that cheating = rape, then proceeded to cheat multiple times. No. Lets not talk about that. Lets not talk about an actual case of potential sexual predation. Lets talk about how everyone else must be a rapist because they have a dick and Zoe does not, hurr hurr hurr.

Games Journalism is a ship full of rats. Watch them cannibalize each other when given the chance, I guarantee you, it will be quite a sight.

EDIT

Oh, and here, have a free Stanley Kubrick machine gif for that last article. You're gonna need it to get through the insane stupidity for what is once again a massively overblown, massively retarded situation that should have just stayed in the bedroom of a dumb cheating woman girl and her dumb ex-boyfriend.

[Hellis]

Ok, Magnum, I have a few issues with how you continuesly try to present this as if Feminism is the problem here. Stop. Just stop. This has nothing to do with the political, female rights driven adaptation of ideologies that has achieved a shit ton of good.

Statements like this;

"Feminist Double Standards" "Feminism has been quick to move to Zoe Quinns defense, it's been adopted by them as a feminist issue."

Are clearly nothing but sweeping generalization for the sake of a target to aim at.

Feminism as a whole has not taken her stand. I see no sources of reputable, established feminsm organization raging in her defence, Making the second statement false and really, missleading as all hell. You are waving the "Femism is being oppresive" flag around in every post and the attack at apparent double standards seems to thrown in there to air your griviences with this strange enemy of yours. This isn't about feminism. A person like her may use the "Misogony" card but I have yet to see it taken up by any serius sources. And, if we are gonna go into the subject further; I work closely with people in the gaming industry, both indy and bigger names. I have many outspoken, feminist friends who happen to be gamers, or in the gaming industry. Quite a few of them here in sweden, you'd be suprised. None of them are even remotely taking Zoeys side. They think she is dragging what they stand for in the mud.

And let's get down to the problem at hand. To qoute Bravo, whom I agree with on the subject;

"Games Journalism is a ship full of rats."
Indeed it is, and you have no idea the amount of cheese the industry throw them to keep them from eating up the puppy that is overprices crap games. I was part of a small time editorial thing that did game reviews. Our chief editor, who ran the entire thing got us working with a more established site. You know what happens to us in the matter of days? Let me tell you; Despite us being small, shit all important nerds we still are deemed worthy of wasting money on. Our review copies were sent along with giftbackets, invitations and all sorts of neat stuff. They are fairly upfront with their bribing, let me tell you. Here, have a game, and all this shit to. But should we write to many bad reviews for a companys games, what happen? No more giftbaskets, buy the games ourselves! Not to mention us a brand is less desirable.

Gaming journalism is click bait. Its sensationalism at it's 'finest'. Of course, some sites like TheDailyBeast and other will take the side of Zoey whatever her name is; Why? Becouse it racks up views, it is currently internet fucking famous. Most importantly, it's grabbing attention of everyone involved. That there is called ad revenue. It's what they live on. Wanna speak about the corruption of the game journalism industy, look at ONGAMERS, who were banned from reddit for upvoting their own stuff to the frontpage. A site who are essentialy, sensationalism garbage all around and who play obvius favourites in E-Sports. For a fledgling industry, they have adopted the failings of the old news industry giants very quickly.

[mdk]

You just described all journalism! The difference being gaming doesn't mean a thing, in the grand scheme, so people don't feel bad about abusing the system for money. I imagine when most journalists do it they at least feel some moral dilemma the first couple of times.

[Hellis]

mdk said
You just described journalism! The difference being gaming doesn't mean a thing, in the grand scheme, so people don't feel bad about abusing the system for money. I imagine when most journalists do it they at least feel some moral dilemma the first couple of times.

This is true enough. Hence my ending statement of.

"For a fledgling industry, they have adopted the failings of the old news industry giants very quickly."

[mdk]

Hellis said
This is true enough. Hence my ending statement of."For a fledgling industry, they have adopted the failings of the old news industry giants very quickly."

my exclamation point made that seem a bit argumentative, didn't it.... I meant to flatly agree with you and throw the net a little wider. You're right.

[Hellis]

I like to on a personal note, have everyone realize how bad someone fucks up when we are in full agreement on something haha.

[mdk]

Hellis said
I like to on a personal note, have everyone realize how bad someone fucks up when we are in full agreement on something haha.

Ain't that the truth AWWW FUCK IT'S WORSE THAN WE THOUGHT

[Brovo]

mdk said
Ain't that the truth AWWW FUCK IT'S WORSE THAN WE THOUGHT

You, me, and Hellis agreeing on something. Now all we need is some arbitrary fourth horseman and this apocalypse is all set to go.

[Omega]

Brovo said
You, me, and Hellis agreeing on something. Now all we need is some arbitrary fourth horseman and this apocalypse is all set to go.

Yo.

[mdk]

Brovo said
You, me, and Hellis agreeing on something. Now all we need is some arbitrary fourth horseman and this apocalypse is all set to go.

The fourth horseman is that nobody got banned.

[Gwazi Magnum]

data549 said Ah, Phil Fish. That is a name I haven't heard in a long time. From what I've read, his role in this mess just seems to be one big "LOOK AT ME, I'M IMPORTANT".

That's all Phil Fish does period. :P

HeySeuss said Her basement dweller boyfriend needs to let go...or get a real doll, name it Zoe and work out the angst there. Something like that. What a putz. And oh Internet, you're putzes too for going along with one kiddult's thwarted relationship rage.edit: And before anyone accuses me thus, no I don't want to sleep with the woman. Never even knew who the hell she was until I did about a half hour's worth of background reading on the whole dust-up. Not my type. But yeah, it's rather fucked up to assume that someone defending her must want to stick it in.

No one's getting up in arms with her because she cheated. People are up in arms because she used the sexual relationships to get false ratings for her game. In other words, hurting the Game Industry's integrity.
Then it got worse when Zoe Quinn and her supporters turned around and claim any and all criticisms were sexist... and then started falsely reporting copyright on disagreeing videos. And then lastly, they actually brought down a Charity because it was supported by people who called her out on her actions.

Her ex-boyfriend never started this issue, he simply provided information/insight into the matter after she was always caught and being called out on her actions.

Hellis said -A fair amount of ranting on feminism-

I assumed by now when I went ahead and said feminism people would realize I was referring to Third Wave feminism.

But apparently this still needs to be clarified. So no, I'm not attacking your female friends who play games. I am not attacking the women who started the feminist movements.

I am complaining about people such as Anita Sarkeesian & Rebecca Watson.
And Anita actually has been jumping in siding with Zoe on this whole thing, so yes there has been feminism involvement here for the worst. That cannot be denied.
Plus, the whole matters of "Let's not talk about Zoe being a rapist by her own terms! She's a girl!?", do you think that's coming from 4Chan, MRA, Gender Egalitarians?
That's coming from the feminists.

Also, I have not been complaining about feminism in all my posts. The vast majority of my posts have had nothing to do with the topic. Granted I debate on this site a lot, so a good amount of views get expressed often, but that doesn't mean it's filling up the majority of my activity.

If you honestly do think the majority of my activity has been arguing against feminism I honestly can only suggest 1 of 2 things is happening.

1) You are mainly just going into threads/topics where the direct topic or a closely related topic is feminism. And if you constantly limiting yourself to feminist topics, no shit the majority of my posts that you're going to see is going to be talking about feminism.

2) Selective Reading, out of everything I say my views on Feminism is something you dislike (It might be the only thing you dislike, it may just be the thing you dislike the most). But regardless, it has become easier for you to remember times and cases I've spoken on feminism as opposed to other things, because the times I'm spoken on Feminism it has angered/annoyed you more.

Brovo said You, me, and Hellis agreeing on something. Now all we need is some arbitrary fourth horseman and this apocalypse is all set to go.

I'd call myself the fourth, but when it's not on the topic of Religion I'm usually if not always agreeing with you and MDK. :/