[OOC] Heroes of Beacon - the Next Chapter

[Lucius Cypher]

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Hider

What possible purpose could that serve? They wanted Pyyrha to seem ruthless and Penny to be revealed. Why would they make Penny seem more powerful and thus Pyyrha's counterattack necessary. That just promotes the notion of 'Pyrrha had no choice' which is the opposite of what Ember's broadcast was meant to suggest.

@Prince of Seraphs

Hider

Piecing together what Emerald said before (I'm also assuming it's her semblance that causes illusions), there's no way that she can broadcast an illusion for the entire stadium, if doing it to only two people gives her a headache. But she only needed to do it on one person, Pyyrha, in order to make it look like Pyrrha was being as ruthless as Yang was perceived to be. It made Pyrraha panic and go overboard, just as Yang went overboard punching Mercury when she thought he was trying to attack her.

Similarly related

Man, what happened to Penny reminds me of what happened to Gren during his first match against one of the students. His hand was outright destroyed, and now I'm somewhat plotting an idea of having someone inadvertently destroy Gren similarly...

[harinezumikouken]

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Hider

Piecing together what Emerald said before (I'm also assuming it's her semblance that causes illusions), there's no way that she can broadcast an illusion for the entire stadium, if doing it to only two people gives her a headache. But she only needed to do it on one person, Pyyrha, in order to make it look like Pyrrha was being as ruthless as Yang was perceived to be. It made Pyrraha panic and go overboard, just as Yang went overboard punching Mercury when she thought he was trying to attack her.

Similarly related

Man, what happened to Penny reminds me of what happened during his first match against one of the students. His hand was outright destroyed, and now I'm somewhat plotting an idea of having someone inadvertently destroy Gren similarly...

@Lucius Cypher

Hider

YOU BEST BE NICE TO SHIRO

[Lucius Cypher]

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Hider

YOU BEST BE NICE TO SHIRO

@harinezumikouken

Hider

Honestly, since Shiro's semblance is more or less "illusions", I figured Shiro may end up being the one who instigates Gren's downfall. I can see it now; Sapphire and Gren eventually go head-to-head to a "Aura to zero" battle for dominance, and if Gren looses Shiro would use his illusion semblance to trick Sapphire into thinking Gren was going to sneak a final attack on her (Like what Mercury supposedly did), forcing Sapphire to finish off Gren violently. However it'd just look like Sapphire straight up murdered Gren after he was defeated instead of letting him live, making her look even more vicious then she should be, and ill-suited as the team leader. Hell, Sapphire has shown a tendency towards violence: Ebon just glared at her and she cut him on the neck. He didn't say anything, do anything (Visibly). He literally just "Looked at her wrong" and straight up tried to kill him. And there were some people there: Abel, Grane, Gren, Sepia, Krysthane, a few others I might be forgetting.

We should do it Hari. Let's make this happen.

[Lady Seraphina]

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Hider

Honestly, since Shiro's semblance is more or less "illusions", I figured Shiro may end up being the one who instigates Gren's downfall. I can see it now; Sapphire and Gren eventually go head-to-head to a "Aura to zero" battle for dominance, and if Gren looses Shiro would use his illusion semblance to trick Sapphire into thinking Gren was going to sneak a final attack on her (Like what Mercury supposedly did), forcing Sapphire to finish off Gren violently. However it'd just look like Sapphire straight up murdered Gren after he was defeated instead of letting him live, making her look even more vicious then she should be, and ill-suited as the team leader. Hell, Sapphire has shown a tendency towards violence: Ebon just glared at her and she cut him on the neck. He didn't say anything, do anything (Visibly). He literally just "Looked at her wrong" and straight up tried to kill him. And there were some people there: Abel, Grane, Gren, Sepia, Krysthane, a few others I might be forgetting.

We should do it Hari. Let's make this happen.

@Lucius Cypher

She threatened Ebon with the knife, he walked into the blade. Plus part of that had to do with his telepathy. She was in a rather bad place emotionally since Gren brought up her family and though she couldn't identify it as his mind powers Ebon's probing hit a nerve in her brain that said: "Enemy". Drawing a weapon on someone isn't out of character for her but she doesn't kill people unprovoked.

However in some situation I'd be up for her setting off an EMP bomb in some situation that very nearly kills him because she's the only one that he didn't tell about his cybernetics.

[harinezumikouken]

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Hider

Honestly, since Shiro's semblance is more or less "illusions", I figured Shiro may end up being the one who instigates Gren's downfall. I can see it now; Sapphire and Gren eventually go head-to-head to a "Aura to zero" battle for dominance, and if Gren looses Shiro would use his illusion semblance to trick Sapphire into thinking Gren was going to sneak a final attack on her (Like what Mercury supposedly did), forcing Sapphire to finish off Gren violently. However it'd just look like Sapphire straight up murdered Gren after he was defeated instead of letting him live, making her look even more vicious then she should be, and ill-suited as the team leader. Hell, Sapphire has shown a tendency towards violence: Ebon just glared at her and she cut him on the neck. He didn't say anything, do anything (Visibly). He literally just "Looked at her wrong" and straight up tried to kill him. And there were some people there: Abel, Grane, Gren, Sepia, Krysthane, a few others I might be forgetting.

We should do it Hari. Let's make this happen.

@Lucius Cypher

My Hider

If Multi gets mean with Shiro and has a Siren fuck with his head. You best believe his Semblance will start going bonkers/bananas.

[Lucius Cypher]

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She threatened Ebon with the knife, he walked into the blade. Plus part of that had to do with his telepathy. She was in a rather bad place emotionally since Gren brought up her family and though she couldn't identify it as his mind powers Ebon's probing hit a nerve in her brain that said: "Enemy". Drawing a weapon on someone isn't out of character for her but she doesn't kill people unprovoked.

However in some situation I'd be up for her setting off an EMP bomb in some situation that very nearly kills him because she's the only one that he didn't tell about his cybernetics.

@Prince of Seraphs

Unless Sapphire told everyone or everyone else was privy to the truth, it still doesn't change the fact that a lot of people saw Sapphire pull her weapon on Ebon, who wasn't really doing anything anyone was aware of. And if drawing her weapon on someone when she's in a bad mood is "Normal" for her, that doesn't exactly help her case. Even if she doesn't mean to hurt anyone, because just look at Yang: She didn't mean to hurt Mercury. Now how many people aside from her close friends (And Ironwood) actually believe her?

As for an EMP, it shouldn't be "That" big of a problem since Gren still runs off enough bioenergy that an EMP won't shut down his body. Though he would lose access to most of his fancier gadgets and abilities, such as his helmet or thrusters, and the God Eater's rockets would default to impact based instead of timed or proximity. He'd also have issues starting up The God Eater's chainsaw since that's electrical instead of gasoline. He can still produce an aura on his own since he's a Cyborg, not an Android. Now if she uses an EMP while Gren is say, using his thrusters to avoid a death trap, then yeah that might be a problem. Though frankly I figured some people might have already been tipped off that Gren is packing some heavy duty tech if he's capable of putting powerful rocket boosters on his armor without a notable power source.

[Lucius Cypher]

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My Hider

If Multi gets mean with Shiro and has a Siren fuck with his head. You best believe his Semblance will start going bonkers/bananas.

@harinezumikouken

Might work. Gren and Shiro would need to talk about it after the mission and their own plans.

[Lady Seraphina]

As for an EMP, it shouldn't be "That" big of a problem since Gren still runs off enough bioenergy that an EMP won't shut down his body. Though he would lose access to most of his fancier gadgets and abilities, such as his helmet or thrusters, and the God Eater's rockets would default to impact based instead of timed or proximity. He'd also have issues starting up The God Eater's chainsaw since that's electrical instead of gasoline. He can still produce an aura on his own since he's a Cyborg, not an Android. Now if she uses an EMP while Gren is say, using his thrusters to avoid a death trap, then yeah that might be a problem. Though frankly I figured some people might have already been tipped off that Gren is packing some heavy duty tech if he's capable of putting powerful rocket boosters on his armor without a notable power source.

@Lucius Cypher

He's an android who's mechanical components don't run on electricity?

[harinezumikouken]

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Might work. Gren and Shiro would need to talk about it after the mission and their own plans.

@Lucius Cypher

My Hider

Not if you try to make it intentional harm. Shiro doesn't like Sapphire, but he would never purposefully hurt her.

[Lucius Cypher]

Gren is a Cyborg. A big different. I can't say I know how the technology is done, but in my head cannon Gren uses his aura to power his body's basic function, like moving. He has a backup when his aura is down to zero, but that's only so he can escape/recover. Gren's fusion core powers everything else, like his Scroll, inner computer, rocket boosters, and programming his rockets functions.

[Lady Seraphina]

Gren is a Cyborg. A big different. I can't say I know how the technology is done, but in my head cannon Gren uses his aura to power his body's basic function, like moving. He has a backup when his aura is down to zero, but that's only so he can escape/recover. Gren's fusion core powers everything else, like his Scroll, inner computer, rocket boosters, and programming his rockets functions.

@Lucius Cypher

He's got a fusion core?! Does Beacon know about any of this?

[Plank Sinatra]

@shadowkiller912 I am furiously writing out my entry. Don't start judging yet.

@Prince of Seraphs

Wasn't the deadline, like, sixteen hours ago man?

[Lady Seraphina]

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Wasn't the deadline, like, sixteen hours ago man?

@Plank Sinatra

I was under the impression the deadline was midnight on the 17. That leaves me another four hours give or take.

[Lucius Cypher]

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He's got a fusion core?! Does Beacon know about any of this?

@Prince of Seraphs

No more than they know Blake used to run with the White Fang, or that Jaune got in with forged papers. Pretty sure I wrote in our Team Doc that Gren had his papers and accounts forged as well, using a division of the White Fang specifically meant for creating fake documents and papers for their operations. Gren just happens to know someone from a smaller faction within that division who's faction purpose is to smuggle members out of the White Fang, with mixed results.

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My Hider

Not if you try to make it intentional harm. Shiro doesn't like Sapphire, but he would never purposefully hurt her.

@harinezumikouken

Hider

Of course Gren wouldn't intentionally try to harm her, just get into position for her to harm him. This relies more on Shiro's willingness to smear Sapphire's name, as well as let Gren be critically wounded.

[Krayzikk]

In other words, no one damage Gren too much.

I really don't want to deal with the radiation leak if that core gets broken.

That said, goddamn. Who the fuck allowed a fusion core in a PC?

[MULTI_MEDIA_MAN]

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No more than they know Blake used to run with the White Fang, or that Jaune got in with forged papers. Pretty sure I wrote in our Team Doc that Gren had his papers and accounts forged as well, using a division of the White Fang specifically meant for creating fake documents and papers for their operations. Gren just happens to know someone from a smaller faction within that division who's faction purpose is to smuggle members out of the White Fang, with mixed results.

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Hider

Of course Gren wouldn't intentionally try to harm her, just get into position for her to harm him. This relies more on Shiro's willingness to smear Sapphire's name, as well as let Gren be critically wounded.

@Lucius Cypher

They, at the very least, strongly suspect Blake ran with the Fang, though. Or at least Ozpin does, as per their conversation in Volume 2.

And yeah, I'm calling BS. That's a direct attack on Sapphire's character (and her pyche) and you know that.

[Lady Seraphina]

No more than they know Blake used to run with the White Fang, or that Jaune got in with forged papers. Pretty sure I wrote in our Team Doc that Gren had his papers and accounts forged as well, using a division of the White Fang specifically meant for creating fake documents and papers for their operations. Gren just happens to know someone from a smaller faction within that division who's faction purpose is to smuggle members out of the White Fang, with mixed results.

@Lucius Cypher

Hiding your past or using forged documents is one thing. Hiding the fact that you're walking around with a fusion reactor and weapons systems built into your body is quite another. I mean I can understand keeping the fact that Gren used to be White Fang hidden or using false papers to legitimize his past so no one would go looking but Beacon would be a high profile target for terrorist attacks. You're telling me they have absolutely no means of detecting weapons that students didn't claim or bombs or anything? He's a fucking walking arsenal and no one has any idea? Imagine he was still White Fang he could just detonate himself and the White Fang could claim Beacon's destruction as a huge victory.

[Krayzikk]

Apparently Gren never walked through a metal detector.

i mean not to put too fine a point on it, but holy fuck a fusion core makes a hunter's weapon look like a toy

that's up there on 'irradiate everyone around him if there's a training accident' tier of 'goddamn this is a terrible idea'

overlooking that he's a cyborg requires willing suspension of disbelief, but it's at least somewhat plausible. hiding a past, weapon systems, and a goddamn f u s i o n c o r e just bane'd that suspension

[Plank Sinatra]

or perhaps he's wondering why someone would strap a bomb to a man

before throwing him into the game

[Lucius Cypher]

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They, at the very least, strongly suspect Blake ran with the Fang, though. Or at least Ozpin does, as per their conversation in Volume 2.

And yeah, I'm calling BS. That's a direct attack on Sapphire's character (and her pyche) and you know that.

@MULTI_MEDIA_MAN

Frankly, I have no idea what Ozpin's information or intuition is capable of telling him. For all I know Ozpin really does know the whole truth, and the same with Gren. But Ozpin isn't my character to control, so it's up in the air what he's thinking about it. And yes, I am quite aware I'm creating a conspiracy to overthrow Sapphire's position of leadership by attacking her name and mental stability. I thought this was well established around the same time Gren mentioned that he wanted to be the leader. As you are well aware of Multi, I am attempting to have Gren orchestrate many conspiracies to dethrown Sapphire's position of leadership. What I have spoken of recently is merely one plan on the off chance that Gren and Sapphire ever have to fight, which is actually kinda counter intuitive to how Gren wants to assume leadership.

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Hiding your past or using forged documents is one thing. Hiding the fact that you're walking around with a fusion reactor and weapons systems built into your body is quite another. I mean I can understand keeping the fact that Gren used to be White Fang hidden or using false papers to legitimize his past so no one would go looking but Beacon would be a high profile target for terrorist attacks. You're telling me they have absolutely no means of detecting weapons that students didn't claim or bombs or anything? He's a fucking walking arsenal and no one has any idea? Imagine he was still White Fang he could just detonate himself and the White Fang could claim Beacon's destruction as a huge victory.

@Prince of Seraphs

Yo, everyone is a walking armory. Also even if Gren did blow up his fusion core wouldn't be able to destroy all of Beacon. It's suppose to power him, not be a nuclear warhead. He'll need a specific upgrade to do that. Gren's not like some sort of action-movie car that blows up if you hit the gas tank. The worse thing that would happen right now if you damage his fusion core (Which is at the center of his body) is that he'll leak and cause a small radiation leak. As in, within the immediate area around him, not the entire school. And if you've managed to damage or otherwise literally gotten under his skin him so much that you can do direct harm to his fusion core, he has much bigger problems.

Also,

@Savato @Onarax @Crimmy @Sho Minazuki

If you want to do something with your mission, head to the collab pad. You're basically going to be trekking through the forest, and you will run into situations which may warrant my immediate reaction. To help you all figure out what to do I'll be putting up a sort of summary of events for you to work off of.

@PyroDash888 @Ryonara @Eklispe @SevenStormStyle

You're basically going to be questioning Fixit now, so I'll try to get a responds from him too so you all have something to work with.